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Player Watch #44 Sydney Stack

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Aristotle Pickett said:
Stack's papers weren't stamped at all. Xavier Clarke said about 3 weeks ago he was likely to be given a contract.
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Yes and they said for the last half of the season that he was in line for a promotion, which never happened. They had plenty of opportunity to play him coming off pretty good form overall and never did.
 
Grrr said:
Yes and they said for the last half of the season that he was in line for a promotion, which never happened. They had plenty of opportunity to play him coming off pretty good form overall and never did.
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If you trust the direction the club is taking then accept the decision they’ve made. Stack has had a lot more chances than many of the kids we’ve previously delisted. 4 years sorry. Not up to it. He may have all the talent in the world but he didn’t deliver. Report card stamped….. fail
 

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sregit said:
If you trust the direction the club is taking then accept the decision they’ve made. Stack has had a lot more chances than many of the kids we’ve previously delisted. 4 years sorry. Not up to it. He may have all the talent in the world but he didn’t deliver. Report card stamped….. fail
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Not only didnt he deliver but he has effectively taken the piss by not even bothering to come back in good enough shape to even be able to do a decent preseason to have any chance of delivering on the chance he was given and spends the first 4-5 months of the year getting to a level to play out games.

Lets see what shape he is in in 2 years time out of football if he doesnt get another chance, He is not friggin Dustin Martin to do as he pleases
 
He was played out of position on purpose!
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Rioli2Rioli said:
He had the same problems as our boys

After 4 years doesnt have the tank to play inside mid along with mental health issue's
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That draft class is the one which i think was the worst hit by COVID, as they lost the key year of VFL at an age where they normally would be ready to challenge for senior spots. I would have no issue with the club giving one or both a rookie spot. They are also in an age bracket the club needs to somewhat fill, so if only 1 of the 2 ends up coming on and playing 100 games etc, they will be useful
 
Rioli2Rioli said:
Not only didnt he deliver but he has effectively taken the piss by not even bothering to come back in good enough shape to even be able to do a decent preseason to have any chance of delivering on the chance he was given and spends the first 4-5 months of the year getting to a level to play out games.

Lets see what shape he is in in 2 years time out of football if he doesnt get another chance, He is not friggin Dustin Martin to do as he pleas
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This preseason thing is pretty much overblown and is not the excuse for Stack's poor showing. The players are due back in a week or two, half of them are overseas right now and would be doing some work but not a lot. Some would have had operations and would be doing not much at all. Many because they have in many cases 10 years of prep know what shape to come back in and know how to build into a preseason.

Stack came back under for sure, but compared to previous season where Covid effected Stack far more than this year, in his great 2019 year he didn't even get to the club until late December. Last year he didn't get to the club until late March by which time last season he had about 4 months of proper preseason into him. His fitness was fine late in the season. His attitude may not have been good enough at training week to week, hence his professionalism has been questions, but the October thing is blown right out of perspective.

My son went to train with a AFL/VFL club and walked in day one preseason with almost no running at all because he was working 6 x 12 hours a day. Within 4 weeks he was up with them and made the VFL cut. Missing preseason training means missing the heavy block they do from November to Xmas which Stack did not miss.

There is way more to Stack being cut that missing some running in October.
 
Grrr said:
Stack like Martyn had his papers stamped a long way out. Martyn won a B&F as an inside mid but played the entire season at half back because they knew he was not fast enough to play midfield. It didn't work at half back, but he was left there. If put back in the middle he would have played far better than he did at half back.

Stack was the same, tried forward but left there when at some stage in the year his papers were stamped as well. Sure his return to the club under fit started it, but other things must have happened to enforce the decision. If he was played across half back he, like Martyn his natural position, he would have been a much better player and made the decision to cut him even more difficult.
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What a crap attitude that is. How about he puts his head down and has a crack at playing the small forward role? That's the only way he was getting a regular game at AFL level. MRJ and Cumberland both took their opportunities.

You can't tell me if Stack didn't apply himself he does'nt have more talent than MRJ for example. Has similar speed and more hardness. He's more talented in general as a forward. Kicking, marking etc...

I'm not a Stack hater. I do hope we rookie him again. People are looking for issues with the club that aren’t there.
 
I’m gonna shoot Bambi here, but i’m glad the club made the call. Another distraction gone. He isn’t the first and won’t be the last wasted talent we see on our list.
 
The Sydney Stack Sanity Test. Choose the statement you feel is most justified.
1) Sydney Stack could have been the GOAT. I've torn up my 1997 membership card in disgust.
2) Sydney Stack had a lot of baggage. It's the coaches fault that he didn't make it. Therefore, Richmond is racist.
3) Sydney Stack was played out of position. He's a half back. Nobody (except Cumberland, Bolton, MRJ etc.) can succeed as a small forward.
4) Sydney Stack is way better than whomever we're going to draft at pick 50-ish (unless it's another Graham, Baker, Short, Lambert, Castagna etc.).
5) Sydney Stack is a talented player, but he wasn't able to find a regular spot in the AFL team after 4 years so it was the right move to delist him.

If you answered 1-4, please wait here.
 

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captain blood 17 said:
I’m gonna shoot Bambi here, but i’m glad the club made the call. Another distraction gone. He isn’t the first and won’t be the last wasted talent we see on our list.
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I agree, people still making excuses is weird to me.
He has had 4 years, potential only gets you so far, can’t force somebody to work harder then they’re willing too.
Keeping him around forever sets a bad standard for other young players who are putting in the work.
 
THECHIEFTON said:
What a crap attitude that is. How about he puts his head down and has a crack at playing the small forward role? That's the only way he was getting a regular game at AFL level. MRJ and Cumberland both took their opportunities.

You can't tell me if Stack didn't apply himself he does'nt have more talent than MRJ for example. Has similar speed and more hardness. He's more talented in general as a forward. Kicking, marking etc...

I'm not a Stack hater. I do hope we rookie him again. People are looking for issues with the club that aren’t there.
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MRJ was drafted as a pressure forward and made his name as a 15 year old as one. Different player all together. Cumberland had to wait a long time to get a game but he was more than ready.

Stack had some very good games up forward, far better than Castagna who was promoted the week after probably Stack's best game.

Stack was made to play forward for every minute of an entire season when we all know his best position is down back. Baker, Short, Mansell all played forward for a bit before being put back behind the ball because it suited their style of play. Look what has happened to Daniel Rioli when they put him back, most wanted him gone before that. But not Stack, why?
 
Grrr said:
MRJ was drafted as a pressure forward and made his name as a 15 year old as one. Different player all together. Cumberland had to wait a long time to get a game but he was more than ready.

Stack had some very good games up forward, far better than Castagna who was promoted the week after probably Stack's best game.

Stack was made to play forward for every minute of an entire season when we all know his best position is down back. Baker, Short, Mansell all played forward for a bit before being put back behind the ball because it suited their style of play. Look what has happened to Daniel Rioli when they put him back, most wanted him gone before that. But not Stack, why?
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The short answer is... the club didn't want him too.... for whatever reason!

End of the day... if he was a super talent that the club is making a massive error letting go, he would have made it as a forward... He already played good games as fwd at AFL level in the past...

In short, he didn't make it as a forward. Club have decided they have seen enough.
 
prodigy said:
How did this thread spawn another seven pages since I last checked?
Get over it people, you won't see Sydney at AFL level this season. We made the right call.
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I agree with you. Stack must have been a disruption or something or other. Players bring things upon themselves. I am just stating that the club did him no favours this year and suspect like all of you who want him gone, so did they, far sooner than October. It's disappointing due to his talent level, and it frustrated me all season, but the club made the right call, as they have done pretty well for years now.
 
Grrr said:
MRJ was drafted as a pressure forward and made his name as a 15 year old as one. Different player all together. Cumberland had to wait a long time to get a game but he was more than ready.

Stack had some very good games up forward, far better than Castagna who was promoted the week after probably Stack's best game.

Stack was made to play forward for every minute of an entire season when we all know his best position is down back. Baker, Short, Mansell all played forward for a bit before being put back behind the ball because it suited their style of play. Look what has happened to Daniel Rioli when they put him back, most wanted him gone before that. But not Stack, why?
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Stack wouldn’t have a hope of playing the same role as Dan Rioli down back for much more then a quarter before blowing up completely
 

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Grrr said:
Yet he did it last season with 4 months less training than this season. Was named our best player in one game late last season.
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No he never played the role or put in the km Rioli does completely running his opponents off his feet, I agree Stack is best in the BP, but don’t pretend he can play the same position as Rioli because he can’t.
Dan had one of the biggest tanks at the club, SS consistently was running at the back of the pack in time trials
 
Grrr said:
Yet he did it last season with 4 months less training than this season. Was named our best player in one game late last season.
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you mean one of the games that were where on a negative slide and half the team was missing, one of those games?
 
Heisenberg_ said:
No he never played the role or put in the km Rioli does completely running his opponents off his feet, I agree Stack is best in the BP, but don’t pretend he can play the same position as Rioli because he can’t.
Dan had one of the biggest tanks at the club, SS consistently was running at the back of the pack in time trials
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Because he doesn't want it enough. He could do it if he put in, which is probably when he is no longer with us. It look Rioli years to build that tank as well.
 
Grrr said:
Because he doesn't want it enough. He could do it if he put in, which is probably when he is no longer with us. It look Rioli years to build that tank as well.
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Actually Rioli when drafted one of his biggest strengths was his tank.
Fitness levels were never a issue with him.
 

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