Player Watch #44 Sydney Stack

[Growapair]

My post was a response to the points raised in your post. I think think my opinion on this is more valid than yours that is why I adopt the position. There would be something seriously amiss if I adopted a position I considered less valid.

But clearly you think your position is more valid than mine or you would not have adopted that position. So why ask me what makes my opinion more valid than others? My reasoning is in my post. Pick up any point you want out of it, happy to discuss.

Stack’s attitude to his football/job as a footballer, overall during his time at the club and taking into account his background, age and any other relevant circumstances. Good, bad or indifferent in your opinion?

And also nail your colours to the mast on this question: you get the chance to take Stack when we did with the pick we used again prior to the 2019 season, but knowing what we know now. Do you take him, yes or no?

Every day of the week and twice on Mondays

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Just so you guys are aware , some d!ckheads can actually play good football that doesnt make them less of a d head
Kids had a few good games but if somebody gave me 10-1 for him to play 100 games for Richmond

Im not sure i would put 100 bucks on that

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Just so you guys are aware , some d!ckheads can actually play good football that doesnt make them less of a d head
Kids had a few good games but if somebody gave me 10-1 for him to play 100 games for Richmond

Im not sure i would put 100 bucks on that

Give me 5-1 I will happily have $5k on it.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Give me 5-1 I will happily have $5k on it.

Lets bookmark this for future visits

 

[tigerfan1961]

Just so you guys are aware , some d!ckheads can actually play good football that doesnt make them less of a d head
Kids had a few good games but if somebody gave me 10-1 for him to play 100 games for Richmond

Im not sure i would put 100 bucks on that

Except he’s not a d head Mate. He was young, and immature, lacking in life experience and made stupid mistakes, like I’m sure we all have/ did when we were 19-20 years old.
and like us, he will have learned from those mistakes. He will easily play over 100 games imo, but my only concern is it may not be with Richmond, and I only say that as he’s from WA and has a gf there

 

[Mr Magic]

Just so you guys are aware , some d!ckheads can actually play good football that doesnt make them less of a d head
Kids had a few good games but if somebody gave me 10-1 for him to play 100 games for Richmond

Im not sure i would put 100 bucks on that

That hate for Stack from you is strong and disappointing

 

[Morro]

My post was a response to the points raised in your post. I think think my opinion on this is more valid than yours that is why I adopt the position. There would be something seriously amiss if I adopted a position I considered less valid.

But clearly you think your position is more valid than mine or you would not have adopted that position. So why ask me what makes my opinion more valid than others? My reasoning is in my post. Pick up any point you want out of it, happy to discuss.

Stack’s attitude to his football/job as a footballer, overall during his time at the club and taking into account his background, age and any other relevant circumstances. Good, bad or indifferent in your opinion?

And also nail your colours to the mast on this question: you get the chance to take Stack when we did with the pick we used again prior to the 2019 season, but knowing what we know now. Do you take him, yes or no?

Actually, I think everyone has a right to an opinion, that's the point you have missed. You dont get to rip into others because a year ago they were sick of his shit and wanted him gone.

Ask me that question in Feb next year. Lets see if ****s up again, or comes back fat and unfit.

 

[Morro]

What s**t, that was 9 months ago.

No shit mate, that's what Meteoric was talking about when posters had had enough.

 

[Grrr]

No sh*t mate, that's what Meteoric was talking about when posters had had enough.

Not sure I understand your comment here. All I am saying it that we should just ease off the judgements and enjoy his footy, and I'm not directing that at you. Nobody here knows him therefore has no real idea about his commitment, character etc. This goes both ways not just the naysayers. After a full year of character dissection, I'm a little tired of it.

 

[Morro]

Not sure I understand your comment here. All I am saying it that we should just ease off the judgements and enjoy his footy, and I'm not directing that at you. Nobody here knows him therefore has no real idea about his commitment, character etc. This goes both ways not just the naysayers. After a full year of character dissection, I'm a little tired of it.

Noone is potting Stack now, the above debates started because a poster used hindsight to tell everyone they should have a look at themselves for writing him off 9-12 months ago. I think you may have joined the party late by the time some one pissed in the punch.

All G mate

 

[acr2751]

i think he will end up a gun midfielder

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

i think he will end up a gun midfielder

 

[JackNah_8]

Tigers young gun reportedly nearing new deal

Coming off a career-best game, the promising defender is tipped to extend his stay at Punt Road.

www.zerohanger.com

Great news. He has done well the past few months and shown great composure

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Actually, I think everyone has a right to an opinion, that's the point you have missed. You dont get to rip into others because a year ago they were sick of his sh*t and wanted him gone.

Ask me that question in Feb next year. Lets see if fu**s up again, or comes back fat and unfit.

Oy? Where did I say or even infer you don’t have a right to an opinion? There is a million miles of difference between me disagreeing with your position on one hand and saying you don’t have a right to an opinion on the other hand.

Stop being a drama queen. You come here criticising the position others take(fair enough) then complain when others criticise your view.

Getting back to the actual subject matter, I will again ask you:

If you can return to the 2019 pre-season knowing what you know now, are you taking Stack, yes or no?

 

[acr2751]

Oy? Where did I say or even infer you don’t have a right to an opinion? There is a million miles of difference between me disagreeing with your position on one hand and saying you don’t have a right to an opinion on the other hand.

Stop being a drama queen. You come here criticising the position others take(fair enough) then complain when others criticise your view.

Getting back to the actual subject matter, I will again ask you:

If you can return to the 2019 pre-season knowing what you know now, are you taking Stack, yes or no?

100%

 

[Morro]

Oy? Where did I say or even infer you don’t have a right to an opinion? There is a million miles of difference between me disagreeing with your position on one hand and saying you don’t have a right to an opinion on the other hand.

Stop being a drama queen. You come here criticising the position others take(fair enough) then complain when others criticise your view.

Getting back to the actual subject matter, I will again ask you:

If you can return to the 2019 pre-season knowing what you know now, are you taking Stack, yes or no?

I refer to your post no 5292 and the tone in which you speak down to others who RIGHTLY were pissed off with him and some who wanted him gone.

I haven't criticized anyone's right to opinion champ, I have in fact defended peoples right to an opinion. Now i get the old "drama queen" line is BF sexy but its well off the mark here.

You can ask again, and I will reply again, ask me in Feb 2022.

 

[Growapair]

I refer to your post no 5292 and the tone in which you speak down to others who RIGHTLY were pissed off with him and some who wanted him gone.

I haven't criticized anyone's right to opinion champ, I have in fact defended peoples right to an opinion. Now i get the old "drama queen" line is BF sexy but its well off the mark here.

You can ask again, and I will reply again, ask me in Feb 2022.

This is getting intense

 

[Morro]

This is getting intense

It shouldnt be really, we are all tigers fans, we all love our players to succeed.

I will leave it here for lack of desire to continue.

Much love from me to all.

 

[Nostradumbass]

 

[Meteoric Rise]

I refer to your post no 5292 and the tone in which you speak down to others who RIGHTLY were pissed off with him and some who wanted him gone.

I haven't criticized anyone's right to opinion champ, I have in fact defended peoples right to an opinion. Now i get the old "drama queen" line is BF sexy but its well off the mark here.

You can ask again, and I will reply again, ask me in Feb 2022.

OK, well this is a direct quote from your post #5289, to which I was responding…..

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"Are posters seriously calling out other posters for being tired of Stacks sh*t and indiscretions on the back of a few good games?

fu** off with that sh*t!!!”

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What are you doing there if not telling posters what they should and shouldn’t post?

I think it is perfectly reasonable to use Stack’s good form as a trigger to remind those who wanted Stack gone what we would have been missing out on had they got their way.

As you rightly point out, there is a long way to go before any of us can be certain whether Stack was worth re-investing in or not. But he has reached a very major landmark in his redemption by putting his head down and working his way back into the team and displaying good form consistently.

As for your copping out of declaring a position on Stack now….did you have a firm position on whether he should be retained on the list while he was sitting in prison?

 

[Roachy8]

Sure I was disappointed with his Kebab excursion last year and then the stupidity in WA over Christmas + his wanna be rapper stuff on Insta etc makes me cringe somewhat but hell, dude just turned 21 only a coupla months ago and has had questionable role models most of his life.

Covid interruptions and then restrictions last year no doubt affected him - remember he was only 19 when it first blew up last April.

Raw footy talent and most importantly footballing IQ is exceptional and we all have seen how players mature when they get a few consistent years in a solid environment.

Nothing but support for the young man - will reap huge rewards in the years ahead for the Tigers.

 

[Morro]

OK, well this is a direct quote from your post #5289, to which I was responding…..

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"Are posters seriously calling out other posters for being tired of Stacks sh*t and indiscretions on the back of a few good games?

fu** off with that sh*t!!!”

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What are you doing there if not telling posters what they should and shouldn’t post?

I think it is perfectly reasonable to use Stack’s good form as a trigger to remind those who wanted Stack gone what we would have been missing out on had they had their way.

As you rightly point out, there is a long way to go before any of us can be certain whether Stack was worth re-investing in or not. But he has reached a very major landmark in his redemption by putting his head down and working his way back into the team and displaying good form consistently.

As for your copping out of declaring a position on Stack now….did you have a firm position on whether he should be retained on the list while he was sitting in prison?

Defending peoples right to have an opinion on Stack in the past are not the same and you know that, dont be a twat.

Copping out? Because I dont have enough evidence to answer some internet poster demanding I answer him with a yes or no? Or waiting for more evidence that he has woken up to ensure a far more educated answer than the one being pushed after 2 good games in 2 years?

I don't remember writing or stating anything, but after the second covid incident, I would say I would have been done with him for sure and I am still ok with that. If he can get his shit together for a longer period of time than a few months, then happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Andyy]

This guy is a great player and needs to be kept from going astray at times.

I hope he stays in Vic over the summer where the club can support him/keep an eye on him.

Or if he goes back to WA get our boys (Pickett, Baker, KMac, Broad etc) to stay close to him. Or for all I care he could board with them/their families.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Defending peoples right to have an opinion on Stack in the past are not the same and you know that, dont be a twat.

Copping out? Because I dont have enough evidence to answer some internet poster demanding I answer him with a yes or no? Or waiting for more evidence that he has woken up to ensure a far more educated answer than the one being pushed after 2 good games in 2 years?

I don't remember writing or stating anything, but after the second covid incident, I would say I would have been done with him for sure and I am still ok with that. If he can get his sh*t together for a longer period of time than a few months, then happy to be proven wrong.

I am with you on defending people’s right to have an opinion. I am just curious what part of any of my posts made you think I would deny others an opinion on this. I am more from the school of thought that says have an opinion but own it, and if you are shown to be wrong, own that too.

It is fine to be wrong mate. We all have to adjust our views as new evidence comes to light.

What you have actually shown with the highlighted part of your post above is you are open to adjusting your view on Stack according to any new evidence that arises, having already shifted your position from “sack him” to “now unsure, want further evidence.” Let’s hope others follow your example in being open minded about Stack.

But, you know, this goes for the other side of the argument as well, we also need to be open to events showing our position was wrong. For now at least it appears he is on a good track, and every good game of footy he plays is further evidence the club made the right choice. It is also fine for you to acknowledge that.