Player Watch #44 Sydney Stack

[Rioli2Rioli]

Lol, don't the forwards and mids etc.. have their own sessions.

Not everyone has the same role.

Its about fitting a jigsaw together, if all the pieces where the same everyone could do it.

Obvious all would be within reason, and balance would be in the equation. Stack could not be a extreme bludger and drag the whole group or his area down and if his onfield efforts did not measure up from application then he will not make it anyway. It would be a risky play to rely on match time performance all the time for Stack as well especially if anomalies occur like injuries

Are you seriously comparing positional training to a Player that consistently has come back and proven he has done SFA training during the off season
The issue with Stack is he is totally ignoring club rules and standards when away from the club.

But i suppose we should give him special treatment because he is a tik tok star FMD

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Stack is not captain of the club.or is he? Maybe I missed the news. Driving its culture? I rate Stack but if he isn't ready to play there's 10 blokes to take his spot. 4 out the current draft. If that don't motivate him he wont be best 22. I think its bizzare. The annual writing of Stacks epitaph. Too fat, too slow Coodabeen a champion
I saw Richmond train up the Goldy one preseason. 2020 I think. Stack was in perfect physical condition. Looks exactly the same to me in the PHOTOs I've seen. There you go....from a veteran track watcher.
If the club thought Stack's poor, and never improving, performance on the training track was a problem would they have resigned him?

FFS! Who said he needs to be DRIVING the culture of the club? How about someone who FOLLOWS the culture of the club? That means looking after yourself in the offseason and coming back in reasonable shape. That means trying to get the best out of yourself and striving to push things even more. This guy isn't a first-year anymore. This is his fourth year coming up and he should know what is expected of him.
Having said that, I hope he has already understood the public scrutiny that has been placed on him and tears it up from now on on the track. He is an enormous talent but there have been a few guys like him over the years that have squandered that talent. I hope he doesn't follow in their footsteps.

 

[Jack5]

Appears based on Burge's comments that Stack hasn't lived up to expectations fitnesswise but saying he is still learning is positive. He is still young and will no doubt mature with the right guidance and role models. Some take longer. If Stack has come back unfit and the club knows his tendencies to drift when left alone, maybe they should have partnered him up with someone. Put it this way, I'd be pretty annoyed if we left Stack to his own devices and he drifted off to the point where we delisted him only to see another club pick him up put him with a minder and become what we all know he is capable of. We are in the business of winning flags and making the most of our collective resources to maximise our chances of doing that. Sometimes this involves paying a player a lot of money to keep them or get them (Dusty, Lynch), or giving up a draft pick to get a player (eg Prestia). If they need to arrange a minder for Stack until he can do it all himself they should do it. Culture wise if the players can accept other players getting paid significantly more than others they should be able to handle a bit of babysitting money or however they position it. And it's not like he is going to get gifted games if he flat out refuses to do the work required to get to acceptable AFL fitness. Yeah it would be great if he had the best training regime in the league but it's the clubs literal ****ing job to get the most out of what we have and that includes making sure the players are motivated to get training shit done and manage the club culture at the same time.

 

[Mr Magic]

Appears based on Burge's comments that Stack hasn't lived up to expectations fitnesswise but saying he is still learning is positive. He is still young and will no doubt mature with the right guidance and role models. Some take longer. If Stack has come back unfit and the club knows his tendencies to drift when left alone, maybe they should have partnered him up with someone. Put it this way, I'd be pretty annoyed if we left Stack to his own devices and he drifted off to the point where we delisted him only to see another club pick him up put him with a minder and become what we all know he is capable of. We are in the business of winning flags and making the most of our collective resources to maximise our chances of doing that. Sometimes this involves paying a player a lot of money to keep them or get them (Dusty, Lynch), or giving up a draft pick to get a player (eg Prestia). If they need to arrange a minder for Stack until he can do it all himself they should do it. Culture wise if the players can accept other players getting paid significantly more than others they should be able to handle a bit of babysitting money or however they position it. And it's not like he is going to get gifted games if he flat out refuses to do the work required to get to acceptable AFL fitness. Yeah it would be great if he had the best training regime in the league but it's the clubs literal ******* job to get the most out of what we have and that includes making sure the players are motivated to get training sh*t done and manage the club culture at the same time.

Exactly, maybe he should have been partnered up. Or Stack admits its hard for him to get motivated left to himself. Maybe he needs a regular check up next off-season. Obviously they have downtime and at some stage he is supposed to do some training. He agrees to a remote checkup, see how he goes. Maybe the club and he can agree on someone, a third party, someone both parties have confidence in that is suitable , to help kickstart what he should be doing, maybe someone can figure out what motivates him, what his drivers are, help keep him motivated. The third party can pass on Stacks development to the club if Stack is happy with that scenario, Stack's is informed of the progress report and how it is shaping for him from the third party

The point is Stack does not need to be running up and down the ground like Mcintosh if he is not playing wing and is more effective as a forward and/or back.

I am a little surprised the club is surprised by this anyway. The signs where there. Why was Stack's off-season not paid more attention? Why did some assistance opportunity not offered beforehand assuming it wasn't before?

I mean if it was offered to Stack, Stack said no to a helper, Stack agreed to do various things by himself after refusing support in the off-season, Stack still did not do it, Stack did not let the club know he was struggling to meet the off-season agreement, then there is a bigger issue

 

[YeOldTiger]

It must be the first week of December

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

I thought the RFC had a change in mindset...it was about encouraging what worked for them not focusing on what didn't...and trying to change that...
SS just needs to be cherry ripe for the start of the Season...

 

[DickieKnee]

We won our flags off the back of a culture of hard work and winning habits,

This.

 

[Karp3_dm]

Unless he learns to kick a footy I don’t care

Yeah tearing it up to be a slightly above average VfL player

 

[A Tiger 4 lyf]

Open training session on the 9th, I’m sure there won’t be conflicting reports on stacks session


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[THE THIN MAN]

He is a professional athlete and is paid to be a professional about his preparation, turning up underdone fitness wise is not professional.

 

[boxxie2022]

Open training session on the 9th, I’m sure there won’t be conflicting reports on stacks session


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hopefully he wears a fat suit and walks laps for the troll

 

[SumTingWong]

For what KMac provides to the team and it’s gameplan, I think he’s underrated on here

If he could kick he would be the best winger in the game

 

[Barnzy]

Stack to me is someone who needs structure and and a group setting to get himself motivated to train as hard as he needs to train. As we witnessed when he was brought in for the trial prior to finally getting picked up, it was once he got into that setting that he actually pushed himself to his limits where he was throwing up on the track from pushing himself to the limit. When he is on down time away from the club, he'll only do the bare minimum asked of him by the club to ensure he comes back in 'good' nick, but not absolute peak condition. So in the early stages of preseason he lags behind the rest of the group a bit, but by time R1 rolls around he gets himself near enough to his peak fitness. Once the games start and he is playing week to week, he rarely seems to be looking for a spell or lacking that explosiveness that has made him such a weapon off the HB line. As much as we'd all like to see every player roll up to day 1 of preseason looking like they could do the Hawaii Ironman Triathlon, but the fact of the matter is that some blokes just aren't good trainers.

In all honesty I couldn't care if any player turns up in November and is struggling to match it with the blokes who dot every i and cross every t when it comes to preparation for preseason, what I care about is that once the serious stuff starts i.e. the season proper, they are all fit and raring to go, because 4 points aren't handed out in November for winning or setting personal bests times in the time trials, they are awarded when the games are played. We've had player previously who could run rings around blokes in November but when it came to performing on the field in games weren't in the same league as the blokes they were lapping in November.

You may not care but it seems like the club cares. Otherwise they wouldn't comment on him in the media about needing to improve his preparation. They basically called him out which is extremely unusual to do for an AFL player, which shows how much Stack is up against it.

It's probably less to do with being fit and raring to go when the season starts but more to do with the clubs trust factor in him. The inability to do the right thing after all the mistakes he's made would not go down well.

 

[boxxie2022]

You may not care but it seems like the club cares. Otherwise they wouldn't comment on him in the media about needing to improve his preparation. They basically called him out which is extremely unusual to do for an AFL player, which shows how much Stack is up against it.

It's probably less to do with being fit and raring to go when the season starts but more to do with the clubs trust factor in him. The inability to do the right thing after all the mistakes he's made would not go down well.

did the club call him out or was Burge asked specifically about Stack and he gave the reply? As lmuch as they sound the same they are different. I’d very much doubt they would single him out without being specifically asked.

I feel there is a fair amount of BigFooty Mayo added onto this. Rest of the group back monday let’s see how they all show up.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

did the club call him out or was Burge asked specifically about Stack and he gave the reply? As lmuch as they sound the same they are different. I’d very much doubt they would single him out without being specifically asked.

I feel there is a fair amount of BigFooty Mayo added onto this. Rest of the group back monday let’s see how they all show up.

https://www.afr.com/technology/ex-afl-star-sells-start-up-for-205m-after-just-four-years-20211015-p590d4... if former Crow AFL player Brad Moran can sell food products....then SS can sell his brand of mayo to the world...

 

[Grrr]

You may not care but it seems like the club cares. Otherwise they wouldn't comment on him in the media about needing to improve his preparation. They basically called him out which is extremely unusual to do for an AFL player, which shows how much Stack is up against it.

It's probably less to do with being fit and raring to go when the season starts but more to do with the clubs trust factor in him. The inability to do the right thing after all the mistakes he's made would not go down well.

Didn't help throwing up in front of the Channel 7 cameras. Sort of forced the clubs hand.

 

[boxxie2022]

Didn't help throwing up in front of the Channel 7 cameras. Sort of forced the clubs hand.

that used to be a badge of honour during preseason

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

The issue is this is multiple times he’s come back not in the required shape

He obviously doesn’t want it enough

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

The issue is this is multiple times he’s come back not in the required shape

He obviously doesn’t want it enough

Not enough to suit you...

 

[biaseddustyfan]

appears stacky has officially replaced VB_longneck as the ultimate fat campaigner

 

[Del65166]

FFS! Who said he needs to be DRIVING the culture of the club? How about someone who FOLLOWS the culture of the club? That means looking after yourself in the offseason and coming back in reasonable shape. That means trying to get the best out of yourself and striving to push things even more. This guy isn't a first-year anymore. This is his fourth year coming up and he should know what is expected of him.
Having said that, I hope he has already understood the public scrutiny that has been placed on him and tears it up from now on on the track. He is an enormous talent but there have been a few guys like him over the years that have squandered that talent. I hope he doesn't follow in their footsteps.

Pre-season day one: 1-4 year players

Watch some highlights from the first training back

www.richmondfc.com.au

Stack seems to be performing fine in this 1 minute highlight. Given the storm in a teacup its caused I think Burge should refrain from publicly singling out anyone. I don't know if having disparaging things said about any player is productive.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Pre-season day one: 1-4 year players

Watch some highlights from the first training back

www.richmondfc.com.au

Stack seems to be performing fine in this 1 minute highlight. Given the storm in a teacup its caused I think Burge should refrain from publicly singling out anyone. I don't know if having disparaging things said about any player is productive.

Cmon TTT, how soft are we that he can't cop honest feedback?

It's not as if Burge just shoots from the hip, he is always very honest and well measured, so if he said it, I would entrust it was accurate and deserved.

 

[Karp3_dm]

Cmon TTT, how soft are we that he can't cop honest feedback?

It's not as if Burge just shoots from the hip, he is always very honest and well measured, so if he said it, I would entrust it was accurate and deserved.

World society has gone so soft these days

 

[Del65166]

Cmon TTT, how soft are we that he can't cop honest feedback?

It's not as if Burge just shoots from the hip, he is always very honest and well measured, so if he said it, I would entrust it was accurate and deserved.

Cmon TTT, how soft are we that he can't cop honest feedback?

It's not as if Burge just shoots from the hip, he is always very honest and well measured, so if he said it, I would entrust it was accurate and deserved.

Give brutal honest feedback privately. Look what happens when a comment about a player publicly!! Nekminit Stacks ruining the fibre of the club according to . bigfooty

 

[Del65166]

Hes been there 3 years, all the crap excuses don't hold anymore...

The Real stuff starts 3 weeks before pre-season training starts if he is being serious, and again, it appears he hasn't learnt a thing.

Hi upbringing may be a reason, but it's not an excuse.

Year 1, 2019 no problem: Year 2 I saw training up the Goldy, a fair bit of drills. Stack was in perfect shape. 2021 he's in jail for preseason but works his way back into the side. Club must see something in him to resign him. The real stuff is the Round 1 2022.