Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 4 (cont in pt 5)

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It still doesn't answer the question "why Carter Page?"

If you were going to fabricate evidence and get a warrant on that evidence (as is the claim), why not target someone still intimately involved in the campaign? It's not like Donald didn't surround himself with questionable characters who would have been easy to impugn.

Trump's campaign adviser is also on the record saying Page never had an official email account with the campaign.

So why Carter Page?
Read the whole thing.
Carter Page allowed them to intercept anyone who Carter Page communicated with.

They will need to have excellent proof that He was in fact a Spy.

According to a Federal Bureau of Investigation criminal complaint filed in 2015, Buryakov and two other Russian intelligence operatives identified as Victor Podobnyy and Igor Sporyshev discussed trying to recruit Page as an asset in 2013. Podobnyy and Sporyshev were also charged by the U.S. but were afforded diplomatic immunity and left the country, the Justice Department said in a statement in May.

Page was not named in the complaint but he confirmed to BuzzFeed that he was the person being discussed as a potential asset by the Russians. Page knew he was the person because he was interviewed by FBI agents in 2013 as part of their investigation, according to BuzzFeed.

There’s no evidence Page did anything wrong and the recruitment effort occurred about three years before Page was identified by Trump as being an adviser.
 

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It still doesn't answer the question "why Carter Page?"

If you were going to fabricate evidence and get a warrant on that evidence (as is the claim), why not target someone still intimately involved in the campaign? It's not like Donald didn't surround himself with questionable characters who would have been easy to impugn.

Trump's campaign adviser is also on the record saying Page never had an official email account with the campaign.

So why Carter Page?
because he was all but walking around with a flashing sign saying Russian stooge.
 

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Spot on JD.
Kaepernick and other NFL players alerting the public to the systemic oppression that is rife in the USA via kneeling for a song is miles down the list.
Not true Silver.

( https://finance.yahoo.com/news/poll...-season-split-trump-kaepernick-110215783.html )

The survey, conducted from Dec. 8—11 of 2017, polled a national sample of 1,726 adults ages 18 and up. It found that 1,233 of those people identifed as football fans.

The survey then asked the football fans: “Did you purposely stop watching or attending NFL games this season for any reason?” 33% of respondents said yes.

That group, which the survey labeled as “boycotting,” was asked why, and was given multiple options. Note: Respondents were allowed to select multiple answers; they were not asked which was the biggest factor, just which factors contributed.

They answered as follows: 32% said they stopped watching or attending NFL games “in support of Donald Trump”; 22% said “in solidarity with players kneeling”; 13% said “no interest in the teams playing”; 12% said “in support of Colin Kaepernick”; and 11% said “news about traumatic brain injuries among players.” Another 8% said “games are boring.” 46% chose “some other reason.”
 

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Actually, until Trump made it an issue again most people have forgotten about it.

TV broadcasts generally don't show the anthem since it happens well before kickoff.

It says a lot Trumpians are still pounding on about this shit (literally):
Exactly, it wasn’t until 2009 that players appeared on the sidelines for the anthem and that was only because the military paid the league for players to stand on the sidelines while someone sang the song. Paid patriotism.
 

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Read the whole thing.
Carter Page allowed them to intercept anyone who Carter Page communicated with.

They will need to have excellent proof that He was in fact a Spy.
Carter Page went to Moscow in July 2016.

The Trump campaign says they didn't know about it. That has been proven to be a lie (we have the email)

The Trump campaign claim most didn't know Carter Page. That has proven to be a lie.

The Trump campaign also claimed he wasn't authorised to speak to the Russian officials he spoke to in July 2016.

So if Carter Page was making claims he was representing a presidential candidate in discussions with Russians and he wasn't a representative, why did the Trump campaign themselves not refer him to the FBI?

 

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That 32% must be particularly special.
They stopped watching “in support of Trump”, hehehe, that’s the funniest thing I’ve read all weekend.

Ridiculous survey, you can give as many reasons as you want, of course Trumpeteers are going to say that, they’re f***ed in the head

Juiced up on Trump’s Turps.
 

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Because they are not supposed to surveill American Citizens without a warrant to comply with the 4th amendment.
You seem to be saying that for the application for the warrant to be legal, they better have excellent proof that he was a spy.
If they had the proof, why would they need the warrant?

I know you understand the difference between evidence and proof.
 

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I will say in PalaceGun 's credit, he is great with creating nicknames. I also genuinely enjoy his posts; usually people this amusing and entertaining are right wing. Lefties usually suck at memes.

Having said that, the master nickname generator now has one of his own. He will henceforth be known as "Silver". Be it the Australian election, Brexit, or Trump, he is simply always satisfied with second place!
The right are the best meme makers :rolleyes: ..................ok Donny
 

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Did the purple goose just post a poll about Kaepernick and TV ratings?

Oh dear... :D
And the runner-up goes to ... c'mon, you all know who ... a big round of applause for who else but ... c'mon up Silver.

PS: I know you can do better than the Purple Goose (that's a second prize effort).
 

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They stopped watching “in support of Trump”, hehehe, that’s the funniest thing I’ve read all weekend.

Ridiculous survey, you can give as many reasons as you want, of course Trumpeteers are going to say that, they’re f***ed in the head

Juiced up on Trump’s Turps.
Yep, that's the Silver way.
If it doesn't align with your narrative, dismiss it as nonsense ... facts and all.
 

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How is it not nonsense?

Trump the hypocrite demands NFL owners “fire the bitches” for a peaceful protest. Then a few days later commends Iranian’s peacefully protesting against their government and of course he commends MLK for his peaceful protests when MLK day appears on his calendar.

Joe “Trumpeteer” Blow in Alabama fills out a survey saying he doesn’t watch NFL in support of Trump?
Support of what? Supporting the idea of firing the players? What else? Makes no sense at all.
 

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rofl. It was pretty much your complete sentence, quoted from a post you yourself made earlier in the week. Not really my fault if you can't remember your own arguments.

Anyway, good that you've acknowledged that you did in fact question his competence.
Again. I did not question Agent Strjok's competence.
Please explain how the sentence "Deeply immersed in the Clinton tank, he was leading it into Clinton and ensuring no charges would be laid so she would be free to beat Trump." questions Agent Strjok's competence, bourbons??

Given he ensured no charges would be laid against Clinton, bourbons, he seems to be very competent.
 

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Carter Page went to Moscow in July 2016.

The Trump campaign says they didn't know about it. That has been proven to be a lie (we have the email)

The Trump campaign claim most didn't know Carter Page. That has proven to be a lie.

The Trump campaign also claimed he wasn't authorised to speak to the Russian officials he spoke to in July 2016.

So if Carter Page was making claims he was representing a presidential candidate in discussions with Russians and he wasn't a representative, why did the Trump campaign themselves not refer him to the FBI?

They are going to need more than that to prove he was a spy.
I actually suspect He maybe the "FBI insider" on the Trump Campaign that Glen Simpson testified to the HPSCI about.

Lewindowski did correct the record as it was only a few days later He himself was let go and did not see/remember the email.

That clip is fake news as is says that Page had meeting with Russian officials wheen He asserts that the closest he got to an offical was saying hello where the were both giving speeches.

MSNBC has cherry picked the testimony.

Here is his testimony to the Committee
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/carter_page_hpsci_hearing_transcript_nov_2_2017.pdf
 

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Yet. Though some of it obvious and forgiven by his supporters.

However you take that stance while claiming the FBI broke the law.
None of what you posted has been proven against Trump. I don’t trust him and suspect he could be guilty of some of the allegations. However, paying people hush money doesn’t imply guilt in the US. Jarryd Hayne will end up paying hush money to make the rape allegation go away. It doesn’t imply guilt!
 
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