Again, you're full of fallacies today aren't you seeds, this election had one of the highest voter turnouts in recent history.Not voting at all is what gave us trump. Sounds like you would of been complicit if you were a US citizen.
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Again, you're full of fallacies today aren't you seeds, this election had one of the highest voter turnouts in recent history.Not voting at all is what gave us trump. Sounds like you would of been complicit if you were a US citizen.
Wouldn’t you equally expect US intelligence to be running counter operations targeting half the worlds countries continuously?Terminology aside, the russians were running a disinfo/influence campaign, that's not up for debate. Thats the thing though, I don't think most of the US population realised that "every country in the world would is trying to influence".
Hillary sooked it up instead of just going away like she should have, but pretty disengenuous to lay the entirety of the Russian narrative at her door considering the FBI was already investigating people on Trump's campaign team re: Russian links, and that hacks occured before the election. I'd say the unique aspect is that it was the first time the general populace was made aware that other countries run the same s**t against the US as they've dished out previously.
That’s fineYou're so blinded by partisanship you can't actually think straight.
You can only see this through the NO COLLUSION WITCH HUNT v PUTIN'S BITCH! lens.
You don't understand that the most likely situation, the one backed by the evidence,is that there was no collusion in an active, planned ongoing sense (or any sense really) yet at the same time there was a very comprehensive Russian influence operation going beyond, or setting a new standard for, what the US and Russia do to other, and other countries.
F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote that the mark of a first rate intelligence is to be able to hold two seemingly contradictory ideas in your head at the same time and understand that both can be true
Are we talking about the dossier that everything is predicated on
FISA
Mueller
House Intelligence Committee
2 years of MSM lies
2 years of DNC lying
Without the crock of s**t dossier none of that happens
Me? Based on their history in this area and the perspective we get living outside the US, sure.Wouldn’t you equally expect US intelligence to be running counter operations targeting half the worlds countries continuously?
And that is my point - there is enough mud and muck between the US and every country on earth. Meaning you can concoct a viable narrative against anyone.Me? Based on their history in this area and the perspective we get living outside the US, sure.
The average US citizen? Not so much I reckon, and even less likely there'd be a common understanding that other countries would also be pulling the same stuff on them.
There is much more of this at the link.
Taibbi's knowledge and research nails the mediass culpability in this saga.
He will make a great witness if there ever is a far reaching 9/11 style inquiry into this Democratic Party hoax, but I won't be holding my breath!
He doesn't look like he has tineadoes anyone - even Trumpeteers - actually believe that Donald didn't get pissed on by Russian hookers?
And that is my point - there is enough mud and muck between the US and every country on earth. Meaning you can concoct a viable narrative against anyone.
The Russians were already in the gun over Ukraine and Syria - so the public were well primed to accept and expect some calumny from the Russians
This was the easiest narrative to exploit against a neophyte like Trump. Too convenient by far.
In other words at any given time there might be 100 operations being conducted focusing on foreigners.
Imagine the same accusation made against Trump was targeted at a new President Jeb Bush. He would have been advised to get on the front foot and laugh at it. You can hear him saying -“ of course we are talking to Russians and everyone else - that’s my job! Now, what about the Clinton foundation! Selling uranium to Russia by Obama! We might talk but we don’t sell out!”
BANG! Narrative dead.
That wasn’t even the accusation. Really, if your going troll make some effort ffs.does anyone - even Trumpeteers - actually believe that Donald didn't get pissed on by Russian hookers?
It still stands as one of the most staggeringly tone-deaf political decisions I can think of. A 'business as usual' politician being selected as the candidate by the Dems in an era where people were agitating for change.That Hillary was - and entirely correctly - the face of the economic and political changes that brought those people to that situation, was what won Trump the election, not some GRU influence operation.
No - it was funnyYou overlook the fact that Trump was out on the campaign trail saying stuff like "Russia! Steal her emails!"
No - it was funny
You over look context
All Words are embodied in circumstances.
Other wise anyone would think Christian communion was a form of cannibalism!
Don’t be so dim.
It still stands as one of the most staggeringly tone-deaf political decisions I can think of. A 'business as usual' politician being selected as the candidate by the Dems in an era where people were agitating for change.
Obama campaigned like Sanders but governed like a Clinton. The Democrats somehow figured that the people wanted more Clinton.It still stands as one of the most staggeringly tone-deaf political decisions I can think of. A 'business as usual' politician being selected as the candidate by the Dems in an era where people were agitating for change.
The last Clinton POTUS deregulated the prison industry which led to a huge spike in incarcerations, especially among the afro-american population.Obama campaigned like Sanders but governed like a Clinton. The Democrats somehow figured that the people wanted more Clinton.
And that is my point - there is enough mud and muck between the US and every country on earth. Meaning you can concoct a viable narrative against anyone.
The Russians were already in the gun over Ukraine and Syria - so the public were well primed to accept and expect some calumny from the Russians
This was the easiest narrative to exploit against a neophyte like Trump. Too convenient by far.
In other words at any given time there might be 100 operations being conducted focusing on foreigners.
Imagine the same accusation made against Trump was targeted at a new President Jeb Bush. He would have been advised to get on the front foot and laugh at it. You can hear him saying -“ of course we are talking to Russians and everyone else - that’s my job! Now, what about the Clinton foundation! Selling uranium to Russia by Obama! We might talk but we don’t sell out!”
BANG! Narrative dead.
So what do you think all the russian anti clinton memes were about then if not to turn people off clinton?That is categorically not the case, you are living in a fantasy world
Even if it was the most ever it doesnt change the point. In any case it ranked 3rd for highest voter percentages out of possible voters in the past 4 elections. So dont make stuff up.Again, you're full of fallacies today aren't you seeds, this election had one of the highest voter turnouts in recent history.
300 plus pages must contain more thanRand Paul shots down the Mueller report being made public, seems like they're really afraid of letting people read it
It is a great piece that.
It was Taibbi's reporting in 2015 that first made me realise that the Trump candidacy was a very real thing, and just how deeply he was tapping into the anger of forgotten flyover white America.
He had one line about how everybody he met at one rally in "not Boston" Massachusetts was wearing a piece of New England Patriots gear, how all the people he spoke to had lost a family member to opiates, all had either served or knew someone who'd served and been screwed up by Iraq/Afghanistan and crucially, how they all knew that they were living shittier lives than their parents and that their kids were going to have a shittier standard of living again.
That Hillary was - and entirely correctly - the face of the economic and political changes that brought those people to that situation, was what won Trump the election, not some GRU influence operation.
With the carry on from the MSM and the DNC300 plus pages must contain more than
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