Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 9 - The Shi'ites Hit The Fan (Cont. in Part 10, see OP)

[Seeds]

Road runs 2 ways perhaps you should all be listening to me .

Given the way elections are going in most of the western world it would suggest my views represent the majority.

You and and all others in favour of the UN can't actually say what it is the UN can do that cant be done without it ?

Is the real reason why you support the UN simply wealth redistribution ?

We have all just posted those reasons. The main one being it encourages peace by creating disincentives for invasion, it can be used to promote objectives such as human rights and can be used to facilitate common rules of trade and capital flows.

You have just ignored all these points and acted like they dont exist.

One of the reasons I support a Un is wealth creation. Making the global wealth pie bigger.

 

[The Warlord]

Facebook told him the UN is bad.

Probably had a scary graphic of the UN logo as an octopus eating the world too.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

The left-

you do not understand

you should not discuss employment numbers

you should not discuss the economy

when you have a job now that you didn't have before it's not a real job

orange man bad

Impeach now

I'm happy for everyone else to discuss the economy, just not you because you don't understand it

stick to memes, they are more your speed

 

[Les Malone]

I'm happy for everyone else to discuss the economy, just not you because you don't understand it

stick to memes, they are more your speed

So you are not happy if i discuss the economy ?

Okely dokely Neddy

 

[FireKrakouer]

What's on the Etch-a-Sketch for today?

A drawing I dedicated to you!

 

[ablett09]

Another assertion you can't support.

What do you make of Australia's progressive tax rate?

Best to find another thread about tax a link me sir.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

A drawing I dedicated to you!



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Self-portrait?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Best to find another thread about tax a link me sir.

Huh?

 

[Father Jack]

Are people aware that it was systems of alliances that turned a minor regional dispute into the Great War, a war that lead directly to the Second World War? Are people further aware that it was after this second haemoclasm that pretty much every nation, many that had been devastated and lost almost entire generations of young men, thought that some sort of union of these nations might be a good idea to prevent such rampant pointlessness and stupidity occurring again?

 

[ablett09]

We have all just posted those reasons. The main one being it encourages peace by creating disincentives for invasion, it can be used to promote objectives such as human rights and can be used to facilitate common rules of trade and capital flows.

You have just ignored all these points and acted like they dont exist.

One of the reasons I support a Un is wealth creation. Making the global wealth pie bigger.

So it's simply a platform or forum. I don't have a problem with that but that's all it should be.

What happens if the USA was to break a UN agreement ?

 

[Seeds]

Are people aware that it was systems of alliances that turned a minor regional dispute into the Great War, a war that lead directly to the Second World War? Are people further aware that it was after this second haemoclasm that pretty much every nation, many that had been devastated and lost almost entire generations of young men, thought that some sort of union of these nations might be a good idea to prevent such rampant pointlessness and stupidity occurring again?

Its just ablett09. Everyone else is aware

 

[Seeds]

So it's simply a platform or forum. I don't have a problem with that but that's all it should be.

What happens if the USA was to break a UN agreement ?

Omg what is the point of debating stuff if you arent going to listen to others arguments against your own. Why bother?

Why should i respond to the us question if you arent going to bother to read the answer?

 

[ablett09]

Huh?

We're in the Trump thread good sir I think discussing Australian taxation would be best elsewhere.

 

[Satan]

So it's simply a platform or forum. I don't have a problem with that but that's all it should be.

What happens if the USA was to break a UN agreement ?

duchy of Fenwick would attack then

 

[Les Malone]

Are people aware that it was systems of alliances that turned a minor regional dispute into the Great War, a war that lead directly to the Second World War? Are people further aware that it was after this second haemoclasm that pretty much every nation, many that had been devastated and lost almost entire generations of young men, thought that some sort of union of these nations might be a good idea to prevent such rampant pointlessness and stupidity occurring again?

Listen Jacky and listen good, you could point to a century of American meddling that also has not been so good.

I never thought leftists were such war mongers - but there you go.

 

[Father Jack]

Listen Jacky and listen good, you could point to a century of American meddling that also has not been so good.

I never thought leftists were such war mongers - but there you go.

If you could please read my post before replying to it that would be helpful. Cheers.

 

[Gough]

So it's simply a platform or forum. I don't have a problem with that but that's all it should be.

What happens if the USA was to break a UN agreement ?

They did, along with others, it was called the second Gulf War and it happens all the time. Australia does it by off shoring asylum seekers who arrive by boat.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Are people aware that it was systems of alliances that turned a minor regional dispute into the Great War, a war that lead directly to the Second World War? Are people further aware that it was after this second haemoclasm that pretty much every nation, many that had been devastated and lost almost entire generations of young men, thought that some sort of union of these nations might be a good idea to prevent such rampant pointlessness and stupidity occurring again?

Well sooking about it won't help!

 

[FireKrakouer]

Australia does it by off shoring asylum seekers who arrive by boat.

Thank goodness we have a conscience and ignore the amoral UN, in that case. Remember how over 1200 poor souls perished at sea when Rudd tried to virtue signal by changing that policy!?

 

[Les Malone]

If you could please read my post before replying to it that would be helpful. Cheers.

We know what you say, we know what you want, we know who you are.

Orange man bad

impeach

send more American troops to Kurdistan

#weloveendlesswars

 

[Seeds]

Thank goodness we have a conscience and ignore the amoral UN, in that case. Remember how over 1200 poor souls perished at sea when Rudd tried to virtue signal by changing that policy!?

You are such a socialist. Wanting to tell everyone how to live. Denying people their own choices cos you consider them wrong.

Freedom of choice dude. If i want to take ice or get on a rickety boat and travel across the sea despite the risks then its nobodies fault but my own.

 

[Gough]

Thank goodness we have a conscience and ignore the amoral UN, in that case. Remember how over 1200 poor souls perished at sea when Rudd tried to virtue signal by changing that policy!?

You can drop it with the caring about people drowning at sea, it's not 2011 anymore, and the scary brown people are copping their just desserts for daring to think Australia would offer them help.

 

[Northalives]

How is the UN stopping Russia from invading Ukraine and China from invading Taiwan ?

When China and Russia turn up with their tanks, plans, ships and Submarines what is the UN going to do ?

It's America's military might that keeps China and Russia from doing what they want.

Russia and China are sensitive to world opinion that is, they do as much as they dare and that is a a direct result of the UN structure. The UN is the place that everyone must front and answer too. If there were no UN, it would be a free for all. Diplomacy is still a very valuable commodity in international relations and Trump is the exception to the rule - he's an idiot and it's not America's military might that stops China and Russia doing what they want, it's the balance between economic imperative and world opinion on the one hand and aggression on the other.

When countries want to complain or take issue with something that another nation is doing or wants to do, they have a forum within which to speak and that is the UN. Do not underestimate the pivotal role the UN plays in keeping some semblance of peace and humanity in the world although sometimes it seems that even the best of intentions can not completely control naked aggression.

In a "do what you please" situation where smaller nations do not have a place to be heard, we go back to pre WW1 where military alliances ruled the day and imperial expansion was only halted by all out war.

 

[FireKrakouer]

You are such a socialist. Wanting to tell everyone how to live. Denying people their own choices cos you consider them wrong.

Freedom of choice dude. If i want to take ice or get on a rickety boat and travel across the sea despite the risks then its nobodies fault but my own.

What are you on about m8? You think closed borders = socialist? Quite the opposite, amigo.

Allow me to educate you, Seeds... globalism, like communism, would work... in a perfect world. If 100% of people were honest and selfless, it'd work. But power corrupts.

Hence, power must be decentralised. In a globalist/socialist dream, power is too concentrated amongst too few. History has repeatedly proven both to be disastrous ideologies.

You're welcome. Let me know if you have any other questions.

 

[ablett09]

You are such a socialist. Wanting to tell everyone how to live. Denying people their own choices cos you consider them wrong.

Freedom of choice dude. If i want to take ice or get on a rickety boat and travel across the sea despite the risks then its nobodies fault but my own.

Actually you are wrong. Capitalism requires certain social norms that bind people together so they can function in an economy with little government interference.

Open borders are used as a form of multicultural warfare to bring in people from diverse backgrounds who can't be bound together via social norms instead needing large amounts of government legislation. Capitalism can't survive in such an environment.

We can only be free if we are bound together by a set of basic social norms.