Play Nice 45th President of the United States - Donald Trump (continued in Part 2)

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Milo literally playing the victim card.

Brietbart literally firing someone (a champion of free speech allegedly) for saying something they disagree with.

Lol.

The above Guardian article summed it up perfectly:
So there is, after all, a line that you cannot cross and still be hailed by conservatives as a champion of free speech. That line isn’t Islamophobia, misogyny, transphobia or harassment. Milo Yiannopoulos, the journalist that Out magazine dubbed an “internet supervillain”, built his brand on those activities..... But then a recording emerged of Yiannopoulos cheerfully defending relationships between older men and younger boys, and finally it turned out that free speech had limits.
 
Milo literally playing the victim card.

Well, he was raped as a child.

I think this is a hit job ala Pewdiepie, but a more effective one. From the footage I saw he wasn't advocating pedophilia but trying to rationalize his own experiences. It doesn't matter though. Once your reputation takes a hit like this it'll be pretty hard to come back, at least in the short-medium term.
 
Coal isn't coming back. It's a sunset industry and has been for some time now. There will be little to no new corporate investment in coal plants so even if by some magic Trump manages to revive the industry in the Appalachians and elsewhere it will be extremely fleeting. Better to let the industry die a natural death and invest the money in more foreward thinking, long term renewable energy projects. Unfortunate for those (mostly) low educated coal workers that that is the harsh reality everyone needs to come to terms with

Agreed, Just tell Trump & the Trumpettes. They're the ones living in the 1980's.
 
hahahahaaa...Infowars.

Do I get a refund on the money I spent to buy Milo's book from Amazon? I hated using Amazon because of Bezos but at the same time I thought I should use Amazon because it would be a good statement if it became one of Amazon's best sellers.
 
It's amazing that people don't get this, nice post btw.

Of course its the democrats fault. It has to be. Its One more reason for people to not have to take responsibility for their own actions..

The Republicans let Trump through with his BS & lies. Trumps whole history shouted at the electors. He's a borderlin psycho, a proven liar, & totally self interested in his fragile ego. He runs his business on the moral & legal edge, he is in no way suited to the POTUS job.

So Just like the libs here let Abbott through, that wasn't Labours fault. The same when Labour let Rudd through, that wasnt the libs fault either.

Trump is the republicans fault.

The fault of the Democrats was to lose their way. They hang their hat on protecting the weak & vulnerable. Minorities. They've failed with that. The democrats need to reset. They need to rethink their policies & activities, indeed their whole ethos.

The republicans need to do the same.

Pandering to so amorphous angry mass wont work. The Angry are that way for many, many reasons. Some feel let down because of jobs going off shore. That wont change. Modern technology has changed the jobs profile, thats forever, get use to it. Like weaving went west, thats called change & it wont stop. But how many jobs have been created because of technology change? Lots.

The other angries are the nast hateful ones. Racists, biggots, ultra right nutters. A whole barrel of laughs that lot are & you wont satisfy the brainless angry ones anyway.

So where to from here? We sit, wait, comment & hope.
 

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Of course its the democrats fault. It has to be. Its One more reason for people to not have to take responsibility for their own actions..

The Republicans let Trump through with his BS & lies. Trumps whole history shouted at the electors. He's a borderlin psycho, a proven liar, & totally self interested in his fragile ego. He runs his business on the moral & legal edge, he is in no way suited to the POTUS job.

So Just like the libs here let Abbott through, that wasn't Labours fault. The same when Labour let Rudd through, that wasnt the libs fault either.

Trump is the republicans fault.

The fault of the Democrats was to lose their way. They hang their hat on protecting the weak & vulnerable. Minorities. They've failed with that. The democrats need to reset. They need to rethink their policies & activities, indeed their whole ethos.

The republicans need to do the same.

Pandering to so amorphous angry mass wont work. The Angry are that way for many, many reasons. Some feel let down because of jobs going off shore. That wont change. Modern technology has changed the jobs profile, thats forever, get use to it. Like weaving went west, thats called change & it wont stop. But how many jobs have been created because of technology change? Lots.

The other angries are the nast hateful ones. Racists, biggots, ultra right nutters. A whole barrel of laughs that lot are & you wont satisfy the brainless angry ones anyway.

So where to from here? We sit, wait, comment & hope.

Trump is America's fault.

And maybe more accurately Trump is California's fault - the one place that hates him the most and didn't vote for him. But when you reduce the entire world to 140 characters or a moment of fame - you get Trump. And Milo.
 
Trump has some shockingly close ties to the Irish, Italian and Russian mafias.

It just gets more and more suspect every week. Day even.
 
The above Guardian article summed it up perfectly:
So there is, after all, a line that you cannot cross and still be hailed by conservatives as a champion of free speech. That line isn’t Islamophobia, misogyny, transphobia or harassment. Milo Yiannopoulos, the journalist that Out magazine dubbed an “internet supervillain”, built his brand on those activities..... But then a recording emerged of Yiannopoulos cheerfully defending relationships between older men and younger boys, and finally it turned out that free speech had limits.
http://gizmodo.com/milo-yiannopoulos-proudly-declares-victory-after-losing-1792598406

Yiannopoulos—wrongly and repeatedly cited as some sort of “provocateur” by publications unwilling to call him what he is: a disingenuous parasite who promotes hate for his own mercenary ambitions—was on track to massively boost his profile with the mainstream this week after being invited to give a keynote speech at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference.

In his defense, Milo pointed to an alleged double standard: the “jokes” he made in the video were no different than those heard in any “drag bar”—a ridiculous distraction from his own diminished career prospects. A podcast with more than 100,000 subscribers is not a bar, nor does anyone hold a stranger in a bar to the same standards as a public figure speaking publicly.

Twice during the press conference, Milo said, “I haven’t ever apologized before and I don’t anticipate doing it again.” The attempts to sound defiant were undermined by how clearly rehearsed they were.


Julian Assange @JulianAssange
US 'liberals' today celebrate the censorship of right-wing UK provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos over teen sex quote.
 
I guess this is the secret & the problem with the Trump & his Trumpettes. 'Illogical' is what he uses. Lies is what he uses, anger is what they have. Its a messy combination of this that Trump uses.
Its not sustainable in the longer term. I hope not anyway. Its too destructive to be of any real value to any of us.
Some polls have Trump at 39% approval only. He's got another 10 weeks until his first 100 days. Happy days :)

With Senators returning to their constituencies and getting feedback poor Donald will realise this isn't reality TV - you actually have to govern and make decisions and you will be scrutinised and judged. A narcissistic leader is not suited to this situation - should have stayed in Trump Tower where his leadership isn't questioned.
 
I'm not saying it doesn't, in fact I even referred to it coming from both sides a few posts ago. That's part of the problem in the Trump era.



Authoritarianism doesn't have to be the state, it can be any group or people.



Milo can still publish his book himself or go with another publisher . . . lol, no particular publisher is required to publish your work.



I actually said I haven't heard Milo talk about Shaun King, and that I have heard all sorts of people from the Left and the Right question his race. Of course I find it understandable when I have heard opinions from various sources on the man's race, and having no particular opinion on it myself. It's like many things such as the wage gap. I hear arguments from both sides, but I don't care enough to investigate.



I'm not outraged, selectively or otherwise.

If you're an authoritarian, you try to "stop people's free speech" and blokes like Yiannopoulos still mouths off and says more outrageous things day in day out then you are not a very good authoritarian. You mistaken someone else exercising their right to free speech/protest (albeit over the top) of someone else's free speech as suppressing other free speech, when nothing has suppressed anyone's free speech, people are still free to sprout whatever bullshit they want. You still don't understand what authoritarianism actually is

Is Breitbart suppressing Milo's free speech by firing him? You pick and choose when you think something is "authoritarian", when you don't know what the term means, nor do you consistently apply your flawed definition of it

Yes the guy who cries about extremism doesn't care about a guy having his race questioned without proof because he doesn't look like your average black man, yet again you're showing how phoney you truly are, you don't like people kicking up a fuss in an outrage, then don't care when there are people who actually did it

You are, but you are just not self-aware enough to realise it. You cry about extremism and over the top outrage then you literally cheer for a guy who's too obnoxious and outrageous for Breitbart, because you think there's "necessary evil". Rich of you to cry about extremism when you yourself embrace it
 
It's surprising to me (but maybe I'm naive) that people fan-boy Milo, who has himself acknowledged that he's a troll. He deliberately says hateful things to get attention. He's out for money ... saying things he probably doesn't even believe in. So are his supporters into anarchy? Is it Milo's appearance, his "charisma"? Are his supporters in it for the shi*s and giggles?

This whole thing has got me beat.
 
It's surprising to me (but maybe I'm naive) that people fan-boy Milo, who has himself acknowledged that he's a troll. He deliberately says hateful things to get attention. He's out for money ... saying things he probably doesn't even believe in. So are his supporters into anarchy? Is it Milo's appearance, his "charisma"? Are his supporters in it for the shi*s and giggles?

This whole thing has got me beat.

He said Ghostbusters was s**t because it had females in it and the GamerGate loons loved it. His popularity in a nutshell

Disclaimer: I also thought it was s**t, albeit because I just didn't find it particularly funny
 
Twice during the press conference, Milo said, “I haven’t ever apologized before and I don’t anticipate doing it again.” The attempts to sound defiant were undermined by how clearly rehearsed they were.

Dont anticipate doing it again.... but haven't ever done it before?

Again?

Never before?

Again?

This is the intellectual heavyhitter of the alt right.

Doesnt understand what the word 'again' means.

Christ almighty.
 
Are you serious?

Why do any of those things need to be centrally planned instead of locally?

You know most socialists and anarchists moved toward local planning well over 40 years ago right? You have the same problem as Mal in that you look at state capitalist governments from Asia and decide that's the only kind of socialism you are familiar with.

Central planning can work very well in a macroeconomic sense if you are in a mostly capitalist international economy though. Ask China.
So explain how it works then? How does socialism work without a central planner?
 
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