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* UPDATE Cleo has been found alive and well in a locked room in Carnarvon. This is the absolute best outcome.


Police are launching a major search for a 4-year-old girl missing from a campsite in Western Australia's North West.

Cleo Smith was last seen at 1:30am in her family's tent at the Blowholes Shacks in Macleod, about 75 kilometres north of Carnarvon by road.

But when her family woke up at 6:00am, she was missing.

Cleo was last seen wearing a pink and purple one-piece sleepsuit with a blue-and-yellow pattern.

It is believed land and air assets will join the search shortly.

The campsite is close to the blowholes at Point Quobba.


 

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A big 'oh fu**' moment when I saw that on facebook this morning. Tough, tough conditions in every direction that this little girl could have wandered into.
Yeh I agree after I had a quick look at the surrounds. Sunrise was at 5.38am and I can't imagine a 4yo would strike out before that so she's possibly twenty minutes ahead of any search party.
 

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My sister in law works in the same firm as the aunty of the missing child.
Apparently my sister in law heard the Aunty say that it appears to be an abduction because something else was missing, but I won't say what she allegedly said was missing, in case the police are withholding this information to eliminate cranks who might confess to things that they're not responsible for.


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If another item was missing, I'd assume it'd have to be something much too heavy/bulky for a 4 year old to carry far to make a case for abduction.

Young children have very interesting thought patterns so unless it was an item she definitely couldn't have carried on her own I wouldn't say it necessarily means she was abducted. If she had in her mind an "adventure" planned a 4 year old could come up with any random reason in their head to justify taking an unusual object they were capable of carrying.

I'm not ruling abduction out but I do know in cases like this many families lean towards abduction because it gives them someone to blame and direct their emotions to rather than it just being a tragic case of a young child wanting to explore and not knowing the dangers.

Extremely sad either way, especially so close after that young boy at Fernhook Falls last week
 

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My sister in law works in the same firm as the aunty of the missing child.
Apparently my sister in law heard the Aunty say that it appears to be an abduction because something else was missing, but I won't say what she allegedly said was missing, in case the police are withholding this information to eliminate cranks who might confess to things that they're not responsible for.


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I was thinking more along the lines earlier that it might be something that wasn't missing, her shoes for example that probably would indicate that she had been taken given she wouldn't get far in bare feet over that ground.
 

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My sister in law works in the same firm as the aunty of the missing child.
Apparently my sister in law heard the Aunty say that it appears to be an abduction because something else was missing, but I won't say what she allegedly said was missing, in case the police are withholding this information to eliminate cranks who might confess to things that they're not responsible for.


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Her sleeping bag, that's not a good sign.

 

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I must have missed this, they didn't find him?
I haven't heard a news report saying they had, but perhaps I missed it.

Sounds like he fell out of a boat on the Deep River and likely drowned. I think police divers did find items of clothing but so far the boy hasn't been found. Extremely sad situations in the north and the south
 

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I haven't heard a news report saying they had, but perhaps I missed it.

Sounds like he fell out of a boat on the Deep River and likely drowned. I think police divers did find items of clothing but so far the boy hasn't been found. Extremely sad situations in the north and the south
That's really awful. I'll have a look for more information.
 

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Most parents who accidentally murder a child desperately want to make the child comfortable afterwards, hence wrapping child up.
After walking 20 metres most 4yo,s would drop the sleeping bag..
It seems an obscure place for a paedophile to luck upon .
I'm not familiar with the area but it's not unknown for predators to lurk around camp grounds, not that I think it's likely that's what happened if she's gone with her sleeping bag. There wouldn't be many bold enough to enter a family tent sneaking around the parents and risk waking them up.
 

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My aunt and uncle took me to these blowholes on boxing day 1973. At the bottom of the cliff there was a popular swimming hole and small beach. It'd be too dangerous to walk around at night from what I remember. It's a day trip from Carnarvon. There was nothing there then. No drinking water.

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My aunt and uncle took me to these blowholes on boxing day 1973. At the bottom of the cliff there was a popular swimming hole and small beach. It'd be too dangerous to walk around at night from what I remember. It's a day trip from Carnarvon. There was nothing there then. No drinking water.

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They're both on facebook which is an interesting contrast.
 

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The thing that gets me is that two out of the three scenarios leave the same question: how does Cleo leave the tent without anyone noticing?

If she left on her own, how does a 4 year old get out of that tent, taking her sleeping bag with her, without someone noticing? Is this the sort of tent that someone could leave and/or re-enter without it being obvious? Are the parents heavy sleepers? I haven't heard any details come out about someone hearing something at like 4am and assuming it was just someone else going to the bathroom.

If someone took her, how do you take a 4 year old + sleeping bag without alerting the parents? Seems very risky for a predator to have seen a child, noted where the child's tent was, enter the tent to take the child (knowing that you have to do it without waking the parents who are right there), grab child and sleeping bag without a struggle/child screaming etc., get them into your car and drive off. More details may come out but so far we haven't heard of any witnesses hearing car doors slamming or cars driving off in the middle of the night that might suggest someone leaving in a hurry.

Sadly, there is a third scenario that doesn't require the parents not noticing because the parents themselves have knowledge. That solves the most puzzling aspect but I don't want to suggest that as a serious scenario without more concrete evidence as that just feels scummy while the search is ongoing.

Hopefully police enquiries can get some valuable information that might suggest a likely scenario. The search for the boy down south was similarly clouded with a lot of speculation thanks to conflicting information given by the media. I'm glad in this case they're being a lot more careful with what information they reveal
 
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