AFL Player 5: Elijah Tsatas

[Nuggs Bunny]

 

[Milanista28]

I just want to see him win the ball and powerfully run 10-15 meters before having to dispose, if he can use his legs to get into space he won't feel as much pressure before having to kick.

 

[ant555]

not sure on actual VFL TOG % but it didn't stop him getting 30+ possessions.

I just think adding size, to go with his height and bullying our mids in preseason will give him more chance of getting a run and competing with opposition midfields, than lowering his 2km time.

Just saying he was not playing full VFL time every week so it was unlikely he was going to get more than 70% game time at AFL level. His endurance has not been at that level.
30 possessions is irrelevant.
I am the opposite.
He has to improve his endurance running and get his outside game going.
He has never been a physical player coming through the lower ages groups. Doubt very much that is in his nature to change that now.

 

[ant555]

I just want to see him win the ball and powerfully run 10-15 meters before having to dispose, if he can use his legs to get into space he won't feel as much pressure before having to kick.

Agree. Has to start finding some spread from stoppage rather than firing out handballs all the time, many that go to guys under more pressure than him.
The only way we get anything out of him is if he can get away from stoppage a bit more.

 

[fairbump_playon]

not sure on actual VFL TOG % but it didn't stop him getting 30+ possessions.

I just think adding size, to go with his height and bullying our mids in preseason will give him more chance of getting a run and competing with opposition midfields, than lowering his 2km time.

Why not both

The bullying is mindset more than bulk

Needs to want contact

He could be Rhys Matheson and still dance around the edges

All academic if he can’t run

 

[quotemokc]

I just want to see him win the ball and powerfully run 10-15 meters before having to dispose, if he can use his legs to get into space he won't feel as much pressure before having to kick.

We haven't seen a genuine highlight from him yet.

It is one of the reasons I have so little faith in him.

We are at a point where him hitting a target by foot is a big achievement.

 

[EnolaGay]

Needs to get fit and competitive.

There's an opportunity for him if he can take it. Would love to see show some real fight.

 

[Zach Package]

We haven't seen a genuine highlight from him yet.

What does a genuine highlight look like for a bottom of the pack extractor?

Is him kicking a goal off one step from 45 in the Richmond game when both sides couldn’t hit the ocean from the beach a highlight?

 

[crackers65]

What does a genuine highlight look like for a bottom of the pack extractor?

Is him kicking a goal off one step from 45 in the Richmond game when both sides couldn’t hit the ocean from the beach a highlight?

I think you forgot the decimal point. More like 4.5metres out.

 

[Call Me Cake]

To be fair it's a little hard to accrue highlights when you're not playing AFL matches, but also most of his work is inside stuff and those typically don't make highlight reels in the VFL. He was also injured for most of his first year. It's a flawed argument IMO.

 

[ant555]

A highlight would be him actually showing some dash from a stoppage or some outside run more than 6 or 7 times in a season.

 

[quotemokc]

What does a genuine highlight look like for a bottom of the pack extractor?

Is him kicking a goal off one step from 45 in the Richmond game when both sides couldn’t hit the ocean from the beach a highlight?

Nic Martin 5 goals on debut and rising star nom

Angus Clarke 3 goals on debut and rising star nom

 

[faible]

Nic Martin 5 goals on debut and rising star nom

Angus Clarke 3 goals on debut and rising star nom

These aren’t the same kind of player, both are far more outside.

Tsatas is up against it from where he’s at, but he was never going to have the outside game of those guys regardless.

 

[King Patty]

If Munkara was drafted at Pick 5
And Tsatas a rookie pick.

would Munkara have lasted more than a season?
And would Tsatas still be on the list?

 

[eDPS]

If Munkara was drafted at Pick 5
And Tsatas a rookie pick.

would Munkara have lasted more than a season?
And would Tsatas still be on the list?

No and yes

Kind of pointless anyway since Munkara was never getting drafted in the national draft.

 

[King Patty]

Good start to the preseason with todays time trial. Hopefully he's still in the top few when more senior players are running.

 

[Keystone agony]

Good start to the preseason with todays time trial. Hopefully he's still in the top few when more senior players are running.

Yeh

Was it around 6th or 7th?

 

[FlyingV]

Yeh

Was it around 6th or 7th?

I think I read 15 or so ran. Saad and Nguyen were behind Binns, Clarke and Roberts. So he’s in the middle of the pack. Would be interested in what times they ran

 

[Milanista28]

I think I read 15 or so ran. Saad and Nguyen were behind Binns, Clarke and Roberts. So he’s in the middle of the pack. Would be interested in what times they ran

PB by 10 seconds for Tsatas according to CJohns on BB, pretty sure Elijah is the source.

 

[Foxx]

A highlight would be him actually showing some dash from a stoppage or some outside run more than 6 or 7 times in a season.

Where has that under 18 outside speed gone?

 

[Call Me Cake]

6 or 7

 

[Skipper_]

Have seen a few rumours floating around that they have earmarked him to fill the defensive-mid role that Setterfield was playing.

 

[faible]

Have seen a few rumours floating around that they have earmarked him to fill the defensive-mid role that Setterfield was playing.

I don't think he's got much choice in the matter if he wants to play at AFL level. He's a great clearance winner but I wouldn't say it's a genuine bottom of the pack hardball get type of clearance that means he can get away with the limited outside game he has, and he hasn't shown that he can bust through a pack taking ground then kick it forward 50m inaccurately the way Dangerfield can. He's left with learning how to use what should be a pretty good-sized frame defensively at stoppages.

 

[Foxx]

I don't think he's got much choice in the matter if he wants to play at AFL level. He's a great clearance winner but I wouldn't say it's a genuine bottom of the pack hardball get type of clearance that means he can get away with the limited outside game he has, and he hasn't shown that he can bust through a pack taking ground then kick it forward 50m inaccurately the way Dangerfield can. He's left with learning how to use what should be a pretty good-sized frame defensively at stoppages.

And will be limited to the type of player he plays on. They'd have to be of similar pace.
Unless he plays as a defensive half midfielder, instead of a run-with mid. But hed have to be assured by disposal, and that also leaves an opposition midfielder by himself a lot.

 

[Keystone agony]

And will be limited to the type of player he plays on. They'd have to be of similar pace.
Unless he plays as a defensive half midfielder, instead of a run-with mid. But hed have to be assured by disposal, and that also leaves an opposition midfielder by himself a lot.

All the big inside guys

Dawson
Mcluggage
Cripps
H.Young
T.Green
Newcombe
LDU
Noah.A
JHF
Harley Reid
Ed Richards
C.Warner

Would be the guys. He just cant really go deep back with them so would have to be a handover. Most of these guys listed that isnt their forteit though

I do like it, if its true

 

[joey_jo_jo]

All the big inside guys

Dawson
Mcluggage
Cripps
H.Young
T.Green
Newcombe
LDU
Noah.A
JHF
Harley Reid
Ed Richards
C.Warner

Would be the guys. He just cant really go deep back with them so would have to be a handover. Most of these guys listed that isnt their forteit though

I do like it, if its true

the guys bolded may be big (although I would argue warner and richards are debatable in that regard too) but they are not inside mids. Mcluggage has been playing wing most of his career, young/richards transitioned from running backmen to mids in the last 2 seasons and warner is half forward flank/midfielder hybrid.