If they let Ross go it would be amazing. Gun in the making.will ask for a trade end of year
not best 22 if no injuries in the side
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If they let Ross go it would be amazing. Gun in the making.will ask for a trade end of year
not best 22 if no injuries in the side
yeah but he has been on the list 3 years and isnt best 22. they dont stick around till we are average again and have some retirementsIf they let Ross go it would be amazing. Gun in the making.
Two years, he's just 20 years old.yeah but he has been on the list 3 years and isnt best 22. they dont stick around till we are average again and have some retirements
I see Cotchin also as that sort. Hits as hard and makes it hard as anyone in the league, but get's the ball as well. Yes Graham does the hard stuff and makes it difficult by his closing down of space, but if a mid like Ross can do the same thing, but like Cotchin get the ball as well then that has to be more advantageous to the team. Prestia also does it, and he is an elite mid. 4.35 tackles per game to Grahams 6, not a lot in it. Great pressure player like Cotchin.
Graham is the weakest link in our midfield I don't think you could argue else wise. Martin, Prestia, Cotchin, Edwards, now Bolton. That is why they tried him on the wing, which he was not quick enough nor agile enough for. And that is why they dropped him. With newby's Ross and REC, and even Cumberland who looks a massive unit, all three being very tough and quick, the pressure game Graham applies will become even less significant, providing those boys come on.
It is far more than pressure that makes Richmond tick. We score from back 50 more than any side in the comp. We have two gun forwards. Our movement of the ball is elite. As I said previously, he had a good back end to the season, but I see Graham's ability to run and link all game as his no.1 trait, and he hits the scoreboard, I think he will do that more and more as he progresses. But it may not be as a midfielder.
RCD in the VFL Preliminary final was notably aggressive, one of the only times I saw him play, but that side of his game really impressed me, especially for an underdeveloped 18/19 year old. Hit players constantly with his body and tackled super hard. 2 years on it is only natural to assume that side of his game will have improved.When did RCD all of a sudden show that he, " likes the tough stuff" and " is a big aggressive player" or even a "love for hitting hard"???
He might be getting thereabouts or even starting to feel comfortable at the level but to this point I have not seen that kind of inside bull player he is being presented as.
Even in his VFL GF he was more a first receiver than the inside bull.
In regards to Graham, didn't we go through this "he's too slow" debate last year? and didn't Graham come back and put that all to bed with consistent BOG mentions?
I'm sure RCD and Ross have great attributes and will be fantastic players but they don't come anywhere near Grahams achievements and points on the board.
I hope we can give them more games this year and I sincerely hope they can lock a spot in as it bodes well for the club going forward. I just hope its not at the expense of any of our younger guns like Graham.
Who knows, maybe one or more of the senior mids will have a bad year or god forbid, get injured because thats the only way I can see any of the fringe players breaking in.
If we can nab a 3peat surely the guard will change in 2022.
WOWEE we are now debating how much better than Premiers we can be LOL such exciting times to be a tiger supporter!!!
When did RCD all of a sudden show that he, " likes the tough stuff" and " is a big aggressive player" or even a "love for hitting hard"???
He might be getting thereabouts or even starting to feel comfortable at the level but to this point I have not seen that kind of inside bull player he is being presented as.
Even in his VFL GF he was more a first receiver than the inside bull.
In regards to Graham, didn't we go through this "he's too slow" debate last year? and didn't Graham come back and put that all to bed with consistent BOG mentions?
I'm sure RCD and Ross have great attributes and will be fantastic players but they don't come anywhere near Grahams achievements and points on the board.
I hope we can give them more games this year and I sincerely hope they can lock a spot in as it bodes well for the club going forward. I just hope its not at the expense of any of our younger guns like Graham.
Who knows, maybe one or more of the senior mids will have a bad year or god forbid, get injured because thats the only way I can see any of the fringe players breaking in.
If we can nab a 3peat surely the guard will change in 2022.
WOWEE we are now debating how much better than Premiers we can be LOL such exciting times to be a tiger supporter!!!
Watched the Grand Final with a Geelong mate.... and after the game he said to me Richmond are not finished yet. Reckon young players like RCD and Ross in particular are going to be a big part of that. Plus Bolton, Balta, Stack...I agree with you on Graham.
But having watched half a dozen or so of RCD's VFL games in 2019 when broadcast, there was scattered evidence of his strength and aggression for sure. He looked quite uncertain at times of when to charge in and when to hold back but when he did go in some of his tackling was very strong for a first year player, it really stood out.
Hardwick’s remarks on him were very bullish I thought, and this should give real cause for optimism. He doesn’t talk rubbish about the players Hardwick. In 2019 it was evident RCD was a bit lost on the outside so the coaches were really trying to encourage that part of his game. He has some weapons with good breakaway speed, really good hands in tight and his height and strength, plus he is a good kick. He seems to play Richmond’s style of footy too, higher impact with fewer possessions.
No doubt Graham in form makes our midfield better, just how much better compared to the young up and coming brigade is yet to be determined. All are young, so all should improve. If Graham stays in the midfield, which RCD, Ross and Bolton, then hats off to him.
I love some of the things he brings to our game, just reckon his defensive stuff is way over rated, because for a defensive mid he looks best to me when he is attacking. He kicks goals and other mids can't go with him all day. He is neat and doesn't fumble and is part of a lot of our offensive chains. See no reason why he can't play Lambert's role, who basically covers for Martin who basically never goes north of the circle. Lambert is 29 and will slow down, and cops a few injuries.
When did RCD all of a sudden show that he, " likes the tough stuff" and " is a big aggressive player" or even a "love for hitting hard"???
He might be getting thereabouts or even starting to feel comfortable at the level but to this point I have not seen that kind of inside bull player he is being presented as.
Even in his VFL GF he was more a first receiver than the inside bull.
In regards to Graham, didn't we go through this "he's too slow" debate last year? and didn't Graham come back and put that all to bed with consistent BOG mentions?
I'm sure RCD and Ross have great attributes and will be fantastic players but they don't come anywhere near Grahams achievements and points on the board.
I hope we can give them more games this year and I sincerely hope they can lock a spot in as it bodes well for the club going forward. I just hope its not at the expense of any of our younger guns like Graham.
Who knows, maybe one or more of the senior mids will have a bad year or god forbid, get injured because thats the only way I can see any of the fringe players breaking in.
If we can nab a 3peat surely the guard will change in 2022.
WOWEE we are now debating how much better than Premiers we can be LOL such exciting times to be a tiger supporter!!!
Like Lambert, I thought as much.Graham barely has played in the middle. Ross played more in the guts last season. Dow too.
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Assuming those stats are correct - Ross is already the 8th choice mid. Just hard to find a spot in the 22.
Iirc Graham starts forward and runs in , so it's like am extra mid essentially (?)
Like Lambert, I thought as much.
No questioning his work rate.Analysis - 2020 Possession Heatmaps
this is WIP, will be updating regularly...(you can post comments, i'll just keep adding to this 1st post)www.bigfooty.com
Like #Tigris and co. noted, fridge work rate seems solid
No questioning his work rate.
Graham barely has played in the middle. Ross played more in the guts last season. Dow too.
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Assuming those stats are correct - Ross is already the 8th choice mid. Just hard to find a spot in the 22.
Iirc Graham starts forward and runs in , so it's like am extra mid essentially (?)
Is that Champion data (or similar)? stats on time in the midfield?
I thought Dusty was more like 40% forward.
And the heat map of Graham's possessions was right across the middle of the ground.
Interesting stuff in that case. Not sure what to think.
Is that Champion data (or similar)? stats on time in the midfield?
I thought Dusty was more like 40% forward.
And the heat map of Graham's possessions was right across the middle of the ground.
Interesting stuff in that case. Not sure what to think.
He is the same height as Dusty and just 1-2 cm taller than Cotchin/Caddy/MartynHe’s a big unit Ross for a mid. You don’t realise how tall he is until you’re standing right next to him.
Started the season at half back so that might explain it a bit. Never got up and running last season.Bit sad to see the ross heatmap of him shunted out wide.
Maybe that's why they told him to get lighter. Run more to compete as a wing / hff option.
Not easy to get in a rotation of martin. Cotchin. Prestia. Edwards. Bolton.
Remains to be seen if he stays patient long term or wants to go somewhere else. Given the age/s of the above group he probably won't have to wait long.
Hopefully a bit more passionate about tigerland than jack higgins