Roast 50/50-Rong Rucci Reckoning - The R-Files

[brucetiki]

Think we've worked out who Rucci is on the thread...

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

the ****head strikes back

PORT Adelaide should hire the producers of “Mythbusters” for their next club documentary.

There is much myth that has dictated perception on how the Power’s list-management strategy has supposedly become locked amid salary cap pressure and those five-year contracts.

SALARY CAP. This one is bizarre considering how easy it should be for analysts and fans to see through the myth.

First, Port Adelaide did not pay from January the salaries of banned pair Patrick Ryder and Angus Monfries, the two Bombers recruits sidelined by the WADA sanctions from the Essendon supplements saga.

AFL rules allow salary cap “savings” to be carried to the following year. So Ryder and Monfries — who will chase compensation from Essendon for being taken off the payroll at Alberton this year — have delivered a salary cap bonus for Port Adelaide. This could be as much as $600,000.

Also significant is the fact there is no salary cap for next season — nor the next six.

The AFL, representing the 18 league clubs, and the AFL Players’ Association are still locked in a protracted debate on how to carve up the game’s big money chest. No collective bargaining agreement — no salary cap.

And on some of the Power’s big contracts — such as the five-year, $3 million extension to vice-captain Hamish Hartlett — are on flat rates with no built-in percentage increases for a new collective bargaining agreement.

Salary cap pressure?

FIVE-YEAR CONTRACTS. These are now confetti across the AFL as a result of clubs being forced to over-extend to stop losing players to free agency.

It also is the myth that is the red rag to Port Adelaide list manager Jason Cripps, as noted in his hot interview on radio FIVEaa this week.

“Do you know where we sit (across the AFL standard) on long-term contracts?” bristled Cripps. “From 2018 onwards, where do you think we sit?

“Based on facts from the AFL, we are well below the competition average. That is fact.

“There is a lot of outside noise around long-term contracts.

“The players we have on long-terms deals are (captain) Travis Boak, (club champion) Robbie Gray, Chad Wingard, (future captain) Ollie Wines, Jarman Impey.

“We don’t think our members and supporters would be disappointed to have these players on long-term contracts.”

Five-year contracts have become a standard across the AFL amid increased player power — and the players’ eagerness to put themselves in the trade market regardless of their contracts.

HARTLETT. Here there is difficulty working through myth and fact of how the contracted Power midfielder-defender was put into the trade market.

Clearly, Port Adelaide’s list management team wanted to move on Hartlett — a year after stopping potential trades to Richmond and North Melbourne — to score much-needed early draft picks to revitalise the player list at Alberton.

Did coach Ken Hinkley — who needs results now while Cripps and his team need to establish a platform for long-term, sustained success — develop a change of resolve on trading Hartlett? Possibly.

Did he hand in the wrong article? Surely this one was for www.portpower.com.au

 

[Elite Crow]

So there is no salary cap next year? I wonder if the clubs know

 

[Elite Crow]

Also I didn't realise the job of the Chief Political Writer was to write propaganda pieces for Port.

How does he keep his job?

 

[TrainRoo32]

Did he hand in the wrong article? Surely this one was for www.portpower.com.au

I don't know mate.... but He really is a ******* disgrace

 

[Geoffa32]

the ****head strikes back

PORT Adelaide should hire the producers of “Mythbusters” for their next club documentary.

There is much myth that has dictated perception on how the Power’s list-management strategy has supposedly become locked amid salary cap pressure and those five-year contracts.

SALARY CAP. This one is bizarre considering how easy it should be for analysts and fans to see through the myth.

First, Port Adelaide did not pay from January the salaries of banned pair Patrick Ryder and Angus Monfries, the two Bombers recruits sidelined by the WADA sanctions from the Essendon supplements saga.

AFL rules allow salary cap “savings” to be carried to the following year. So Ryder and Monfries — who will chase compensation from Essendon for being taken off the payroll at Alberton this year — have delivered a salary cap bonus for Port Adelaide. This could be as much as $600,000.

Also significant is the fact there is no salary cap for next season — nor the next six.

The AFL, representing the 18 league clubs, and the AFL Players’ Association are still locked in a protracted debate on how to carve up the game’s big money chest. No collective bargaining agreement — no salary cap.

And on some of the Power’s big contracts — such as the five-year, $3 million extension to vice-captain Hamish Hartlett — are on flat rates with no built-in percentage increases for a new collective bargaining agreement.

Salary cap pressure?

FIVE-YEAR CONTRACTS. These are now confetti across the AFL as a result of clubs being forced to over-extend to stop losing players to free agency.

It also is the myth that is the red rag to Port Adelaide list manager Jason Cripps, as noted in his hot interview on radio FIVEaa this week.

“Do you know where we sit (across the AFL standard) on long-term contracts?” bristled Cripps. “From 2018 onwards, where do you think we sit?

“Based on facts from the AFL, we are well below the competition average. That is fact.

“There is a lot of outside noise around long-term contracts.

“The players we have on long-terms deals are (captain) Travis Boak, (club champion) Robbie Gray, Chad Wingard, (future captain) Ollie Wines, Jarman Impey.

“We don’t think our members and supporters would be disappointed to have these players on long-term contracts.”

Five-year contracts have become a standard across the AFL amid increased player power — and the players’ eagerness to put themselves in the trade market regardless of their contracts.

HARTLETT. Here there is difficulty working through myth and fact of how the contracted Power midfielder-defender was put into the trade market.

Clearly, Port Adelaide’s list management team wanted to move on Hartlett — a year after stopping potential trades to Richmond and North Melbourne — to score much-needed early draft picks to revitalise the player list at Alberton.

Did coach Ken Hinkley — who needs results now while Cripps and his team need to establish a platform for long-term, sustained success — develop a change of resolve on trading Hartlett? Possibly.

The more they bury their head in the sand about their situation the more they will slip (again) into the abyss.


Is Rucci the only one reporting they can bank the Drug Cheats salaries in terms of Cap Space?


Have not come across anyone else reporting this as fact yet.




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[Carmo]

"Five-year contracts have become a standard across the AFL amid increased player power — and the players’ eagerness to put themselves in the trade market regardless of their contracts."

Very interesting comment!

 

[Crowked]

hehehehehehee

I think they're ****ed and they know it. A s**t list and no ability to move on it. 3 more years of mediocrity ahead. They will be back to square one on membership by then. Hope they kept those tarps.

 

[Geoffa32]

Tealsters and Rucci seem to miss the point about their cap space and contract issues.

Yes they can afford the players they have. But their list has made them miss Finals two years in a row now. There is no room to move to improve this list. We can afford to go out and chase Gibbs to improve.

Every club around (Saints, Dees, Tigers and Bombers) them has improved their list this week. Port have a massive issue with KPF depth. They need cover for the games Dixon will miss. There is no other KPF on their list after Schulz and Butcher have retired/desisted.

Port have not been able to do this as they need to move on guys like Lobbe and Hartlett to do so. Which they could not do. Thus they could not trade in a player this week.



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[jo172]

You're overlooking the fact that Port has a top 4 list there Geoffa.

 

[GameofSloanes]

Almost 100% certain that the AFL have advised clubs of an interim salary cap for 2017 until the CBA is resolved. But hey I'm not the chief football writer for a major newspaper so what would i know

 

[footy4ever]

Also I didn't realise the job of the Chief Political Writer was to write propaganda pieces for Port.

How does he keep his job?

Status quo. He's been Port's cheersquad leader forever. The contrast in how he writes Crows and Port articles is hilarious. Polishes the turd with Port at every opportunity and tries to undermine the Crows at every opportunity, and wonders why he can't get near the AFC. LOL

 

[TrainRoo32]

The more they bury their head in the sand about their situation the more they will slip (again) into the abyss.


Is Rucci the only one reporting they can bank the Drug Cheats salaries in terms of Cap Space?


Have not come across anyone else reporting this as fact yet.




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I hadn't heard thaf either, I was under the impression it was buyer beware and they had to hold their part of the contract! Even so they were already paying 105% with ryder and monfries so * knows!

 

[subaru]

"Five-year contracts have become a standard across the AFL amid increased player power — and the players’ eagerness to put themselves in the trade market regardless of their contracts."

Very interesting comment!

Big difference - other clubs sign GOOD players to 5 years deals......

That article once again gets filed under "H' for hypotheticals.

He really is an atrocious journo. Bias aside, his articles are nonsense. Just nonsense.

 

[subaru]

hehehehehehee

I think they're stuffed and they know it. A s**t list and no ability to move on it. 3 more years of mediocrity ahead. They will be back to square one on membership by then. Hope they kept those tarps.

They will be fielding exactly the same team as last year +Ryder.
Carey couldn't come back after a year away from a football club. Ryder's absence is the same.

 

[Anzacpaul]

Rucci's article should be interesting tomorrow

EDIT: In fact, what's the bet it's Adelaide's fault that Gibbs doesn't get to come home with his family.....

 

[Don Muraco]

Rucci's article should be interesting tomorrow

EDIT: In fact, what's the bet it's Adelaide's fault that Gibbs doesn't get to come home with his family.....

 

[GreyCrow]

Gibbs Away Nothing

''Adelaide failed to land the big fish so desperately needed in a hectic last day of trading that saw contracted players reach their club of choice-except one. Bryce Gibbs and Adelaide failed to convince Carlton that his need to return to Adelaide for Family Reasons was enough. Adelaide- which had Pick 13 and plenty of class players at its disposal to trade- decided that the price was too high to pay. Adelaide chose not to part with 2 first round picks , 1 from 2016 and 1 from 2017. Picks which would have seen Gibbs an Adelaide player if only the Adelaide List Manager and Board had the courage to give them away.

Adelaide fans vented on radio and social media as they saw their Premiership chances fade.''

 

[subaru]

Think we've worked out who Rucci is on the thread...

Pray tell ...
If he's posting in it that is just too too funny

 

[brucetiki]

Pray tell ...
If he's posting in it that is just too too funny

Pretty obvious it's Bicks, especially with his off-topic posts in here

 

[Crow54]

LOL LOL Blocked by Rucci on Twitter! For writing this:

@TomRichardson @michelangeloruc Wow, give him a medal. *rolls eyes* I guess he has to get one right now and then.

Replying to this:

Tom Richardson ‏@TomRichardson 6h6 hours ago
Take note: @michelangeloruc called this on day one

******

How thin skinned is this man? Pathetic. If I thought he was despicable before, I think it even more so now.

 

[subaru]

Pretty obvious it's Bicks, especially with his off-topic posts in here

10000 posts !
Flog journo AND too much time on his hands if it is

 

[relapse]

I see too that Rucci seems to be painting Port's trade period as a success too

PORT ADELAIDE

TRADED IN: Draft picks 14, 17, 30, 31

TRADED OUT: Draft picks 9, 49 and 2017 first-round

GRADE - C: Achieved goal of scoring early draft picks

So lets look at Port's trading this year

Firstly they failed to get rid of Hartlett and Lobbe.

Out 9, 49 and their 2017 first rounder for 14, 17 and 31

So in real terms they gave up their 2017 first rounder and downgraded their 2016 first rounder from 9 to 14 and in return they only got pick 17, 30 and were able to upgrade 49 to pick 31.

That's hilariously bad trading, but as usual Rucci is there to try and spin doctor such a shitty result as being "great for Port Adelaide".

Go home Rucci you're drunk.

 

[Crowked]

I think he will actually back in Reid's decision since the bulk of Crows supporters have done enough dummy spitting and cot emptying on their own. He needs to be controversial and in direct contrast to popular opinion to have any value to the paper. He simply has no investigative ability, meaningful insight, contacts or football nous to do anything else.

Also, probably wont say anything about Ports downgrades.

 

[FR0GGY]

I think he will actually back in Reid's decision since the bulk of Crows supporters have done enough dummy spitting and cot emptying on their own. He needs to be controversial and in direct contrast to popular opinion to have any value to the paper. He simply has no investigative ability, meaningful insight, contacts or football nous to do anything else.

Also, probably wont say anything about Ports downgrades.

I agree he will either have to agree with the club or with the supporters, tough decision coming up for him!