Past #6: Lachlan Hansen - pick 3 '06 - 151 NM games - NM life member - thanks Lachie

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Cheers. Likewise.

True, it is hard to manage expectations. Personally I think he is going to peak at just the right time (26 next year). If he's allowed to settle in one position, grow as a defender, and lift his confidence...who knows what he could become. For instance that goal he kicked against the Cats...that's some bloody impressive gut running (especially when he's 197cm). He builds on that sort of confidence and he'd blow up most (if not all) bigger forwards in the league.

Thompson took a while to get going, and I can't see why Lachie couldn't become a better defender than someone like Ben Reid (same draft pool).
Really good points mate.

Without focusing too much I agree his position is back (I was hammered on here for suggesting it (with BigEasy), but amazing when the knockers vanish when proved wrong). I for example got Pederson terribly wrong, and prepared to admit it which I think is part of having an opinion!

Thommo took a while I agree. He is a jet. In fact I think he has reached a level Hansen can't meet based on skills alone - i'd love you to quite me a year or two from now to prove me wrong (with interest!) :thumbsu:
 

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Really good points mate.

Without focusing too much I agree his position is back (I was hammered on here for suggesting it (with BigEasy), but amazing when the knockers vanish when proved wrong). I for example got Pederson terribly wrong, and prepared to admit it which I think is part of having an opinion!

Thommo took a while I agree. He is a jet. In fact I think he has reached a level Hansen can't meet based on skills alone - i'd love you to quite me a year or two from now to prove me wrong (with interest!) :thumbsu:
I got Pederson terribly wrong also. I thought he was a great get for Melbourne and that he would help Frawley out in defence. Turned out he was more of a liability than anything.

I agree he doesn't have the skill set (kicking, speed, and evasive skills) and he probably never will. I think he does pip him for contested marking and endurance. In terms of reading of the game perhaps equal?! No need to quote you if he did somehow, I'd just bask in the glory of knowing Hansen developed into a gun defender; and more importantly he did it at North!!!!
 

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If Grima and Thompson are manning the key posts well (and they definitely have been) why would we change it? If Hansen is playing the spare man role to perfection why would we change it?
Because sometimes that means a Luke Hodge/Jimmy Bartel is patrolling loose, racking up possies and setting up their attack.

We can't afford to always play Hansen loose, it kills us as well.

If it is working, and it did most of this year, obviously you don't change it, but it isn't always going to work and we are going to need Lachie to play as an accountable defender at times.

I must admit, I was one of the harsher knockers on Hansen, probably not JR level, but what a fantastic development year, great for his confidence should only keep getting better from here as well!
 

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Because sometimes that means a Luke Hodge/Jimmy Bartel is patrolling loose, racking up possies and setting up their attack.

We can't afford to always play Hansen loose, it kills us as well.

If it is working, and it did most of this year, obviously you don't change it, but it isn't always going to work and we are going to need Lachie to play as an accountable defender at times.

I must admit, I was one of the harsher knockers on Hansen, probably not JR level, but what a fantastic development year, great for his confidence should only keep getting better from here as well!
Lachie can play accountable if he needs. He isn't Jason Cloke for christ sake.

It's not his fault if Hodge and Bartel are getting a heaps of the ball. It's up to our midfield to lower their eyes and not banging it in long time and time again. In the first half against Hawks and Cats (round 2) the players lowered their eyes and hit up targets (things were great). Once the pressure came we resorted to banging it in long and their loose player starting dominating.
 
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Quality post JReacher :thumbsu:

You are an enigma on here for mine. Come up with some stuff which is just simply "wow" (read; bizarre), then write others (like this) which are spot on IMO.

Would much rather you controlling the list than some here who would sign all our players deals until 2027 based on a nice kick on his non-preferred side, took a mark more than once, they haven't played 100 games, or the fact they are a good bloke.

From what I've read so far, the club look set to make some fantastic decisions moving forward and will indeed be more decisive. For mine that is a good thing and shows we have made strides to being a good team.

Edward Nigma

So very kind of you:thumbsu:
Well said...yes its scary how some people think:eek:
Agree on that last point:thumbsu:

PS: Not embroilling myself in any further Hansen discussion unless something happens during trade week;)lol
 

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Add 3 to 5kg to his frame and he will become one of the major keys to our future success.

I'd like to know is he having off season surgery and how injuries over previous years have impacted his weight work eg: shoulders, back?
 
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Jack, would you trade Hansen for Dustin Martin? Could be a win win for everybody concerned. :stern look
Lol, no I would not.

But for P.Dangerfield, D.Thomas, even S.Crameri etc I would strongly consider it:thumbsu:

Hansen can be easily replaced.

Do you want to win a flag or just make sure Hansen plays 200 games for North to rub JR's nose in it:rolleyes:
 

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Lol, no I would not.

But for P.Dangerfield, D.Thomas, even S.Crameri etc I would strongly consider it:thumbsu:

Hansen can be easily replaced.

Do you want to win a flag or just make sure Hansen plays 200 games for North to rub JR's nose in it:rolleyes:
Well played Jack.:thumbsu:
 

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Why are the two mutually exclusive?

Do you want North to win a flag or Delaney to play 200 mediocre, goal leaking, trailing behind his opponent, games
 

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Why are the two mutually exclusive?

Do you want North to win a flag or Delaney to play 200 mediocre, goal leaking, trailing behind his opponent, games
Hansen is not going to win us a flag, right now, he has some currency again in the market so why wouldnt you shop him around, remember this is a bloke who wanted to leave last year, I wouldnt be showing him any loyalty, those days are over. We need a A-grade outside mid with x-factor (e.g. a Dangerfield type), though a forward such as Stuart Crameri would be sensational for us and make us extremely potent up front:thumbsu:
 

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Hansen is not going to win us a flag, right now, he has some currency again in the market so why wouldnt you shop him around, remember this is a bloke who wanted to leave last year, I wouldnt be showing him any loyalty, those days are over. We need a A-grade outside mid with x-factor (e.g. a Dangerfield type), though a forward such as Stuart Crameri would be sensational for us and make us extremely potent up front:thumbsu:
Agree totally.
 

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Hansen is not going to win us a flag, right now, he has some currency again in the market so why wouldnt you shop him around, remember this is a bloke who wanted to leave last year, I wouldnt be showing him any loyalty, those days are over. We need a A-grade outside mid with x-factor (e.g. a Dangerfield type), though a forward such as Stuart Crameri would be sensational for us and make us extremely potent up front:thumbsu:
You should change your name to Dry Reacher with some of the stuff that comes out of your mouth about Hansen.
 
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Hansen is not going to win us a flag, right now, he has some currency again in the market so why wouldnt you shop him around, remember this is a bloke who wanted to leave last year, I wouldnt be showing him any loyalty, those days are over. We need a A-grade outside mid with x-factor (e.g. a Dangerfield type), though a forward such as Stuart Crameri would be sensational for us and make us extremely potent up front:thumbsu:
You went all this time and I still disagreed that you're a bomber troll albeit an occasionally amusing one.

Then you come up with this. Seriously mate.

I wonder if * would consider Hansen + Bastinac for Crameri and Jetta?
 
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Personally I don't see what all the fuss is about, it coming up to trade week, its the silly season, whether its Hansen, Tarrant or whoever as trade bait, we need to be proactive and secure a top-liner for next season. The hardline reactions from Hansen 'Protectionists' is way over the top imho. "Everyone is tradeable" according to Nick Riewoldt on ch7 sunday footy show and I agree with him, bar a few players who are not e.g. Wells, Harvey, Ziebell, Thompson, Goldstein etc.
 
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Personally I don't see what all the fuss is about, it coming up to trade week, its the silly season, whether its Hansen, Tarrant or whoever as trade bait, we need to be proactive and secure a top-liner for next season. The hardline reactions from Hansen 'Protectionists' is way over the top imho. "Everyone is tradeable" according to Nick Riewoldt on ch7 sunday footy show and I agree with him, bar a few players who are not e.g. Wells, Harvey, Ziebell, Thompson, Goldstein etc.
JR, isn't that clearly saying one thing....then at the same time saying completely the opposite?
 
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JR, isn't that clearly saying one thing....then at the same time saying completely the opposite?
Not really "everyone is tradeable" however there will be some players who dont seriously come under consideration is my point, but if you were to say GWS give us Jeremy Cameron for Boomer then its bye bye Boomer I'm afraid...everyone has a price.
 

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Hansen is not going to win us a flag, right now, he has some currency again in the market so why wouldnt you shop him around, remember this is a bloke who wanted to leave last year, I wouldnt be showing him any loyalty, those days are over. We need a A-grade outside mid with x-factor (e.g. a Dangerfield type), though a forward such as Stuart Crameri would be sensational for us and make us extremely potent up front:thumbsu:
Would we win one with Luke Delaney at full back?

What do you have against Hansen? If you say it's football then we know that's bullshit. Come on fess up, why the borderline psychotic behaviour towards him?
 
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