Past #6: Lachlan Hansen - pick 3 '06 - 151 NM games - NM life member - thanks Lachie

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I think if Lachie sat on a few shoulders more, even if he didn't make contact with the ball, just if he got up really high, then he's street cred would go through the roof.
 

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Does anyone here honestly feel comfortable when he has the ball and has opponents running at him? I think this is the biggest hurdle he has to overcome.
 

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How many blokes can do that?

Seriously, how many AFL players can consistently float back in to a pack and take overhead marks?

It's one of the most courageous things an AFL player can do, let alone execute consistently and properly.

Yet, the wankers point and whinge that he's not Barry Cable beneath his knees!:rolleyes:
 

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Yes. Lachie Hansen took a contested mark so now I'm going to have a monster crank. Back in 2 hours. :stern look

But before I go let me say this, as the Artichoke once said "Let's not give head to ourselves". What Lachie needs to do is perform at a consistently good level during the upcoming season. That's all. I don't think us Hansenists are asking for too much? :stern look
 

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Does anyone here honestly feel comfortable when he has the ball and has opponents running at him? I think this is the biggest hurdle he has to overcome.
Agree.

Improving that will be the difference between being a good player and potentially a great one. I'm hoping that confidence and an extended run of good form will improve this.

Bloke can take a wonderful grab though. People have compared him to Petrie as a slow burner but I think Hansen is much superior at the same age when it comes to marking ability.
 

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Yeah he still had that dear in headlights look about him at times last year.

Honestly though if he can be finally settled into one position then eventually he will start to adjust. Looks much better behind the ball in the back line, hopefully the smalls back there feed of his aerial prowess and he is not required to do to much of the creating when it comes to the play.
 

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Some tactic talk.

The really impressive thing in that clip is the second example which shows just how quickly Lachie picks up the ball movement and zones back 20-25 metres and takes the mark.

Having Lachie zoning the 20-50 metre defensive corridoor will negate 99% of opposition long high ball in to our defensive 50 centre corridoor zone, and force the opposition to go shorther/possess more often. He has the ability to effectively kill all opposition long balls.
 

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I'm not sinking the boot in, nor am I disagreeing with you Teffy; I rate Lachies effort there.

HOWEVER, he left his man to do it. If he didn't pluck the mark, and the ball spilled to the ground, the second angle of the clip clearly shows that his direct opponent was in a perfect position to crumb the ball and run into the open goals.

Pause the video at the 0:24 mark. What do you see? Three wide open Swans players in their forward 50.

If you wanna talk tactics; not taking anything away from Lachies good mark, but that's a pretty big defensive ****-up from a couple of North boys for my money. Including Lachie.
 

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Fair Call OS. The thing that also stuck out in that situation was the close physical pressure our defenders were putting on every Sydney forward. Even though they were well positioned and coming at the ball from different angles (which reduced your chance of being blocked) they had no free run and jump at the ball with the defenders keeping touch.
 

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Chad, I see your point, but I reckon it was the Swans who ****ed up their spread more than us. Where the ball fell (lets say Hansen missed the second bite) there were three under the ball and no Swans there. They had no-one at the back of the pack where the ball was spilling to, and from where we cleared it out.
 

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I'm not sinking the boot in, nor am I disagreeing with you Teffy; I rate Lachies effort there.

HOWEVER, he left his man to do it. If he didn't pluck the mark, and the ball spilled to the ground, the second angle of the clip clearly shows that his direct opponent was in a perfect position to crumb the ball and run into the open goals.

Pause the video at the 0:24 mark. What do you see? Three wide open Swans players in their forward 50.

If you wanna talk tactics; not taking anything away from Lachies good mark, but that's a pretty big defensive ****-up from a couple of North boys for my money. Including Lachie.
1) Hansen picks the ball up in flight.

2) The days of one on one football died 15-20 years ago.

3) Hansen would be clearly instructed to play that way, there's no way he would be on the park if he wasn't, so if you think there is fault in this tactic then blames lies squarely with the coach and not Hansen.

4) I agree with your observations re- the crumbers. Where were their opponents, and how much blame would the average BF poster have heaped on Lachie if he spilled the mark and Sydney goaled? You can't blame Hansen for ANY of this. He is in the defence to provide an aerial presence.
 

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The crumber in the best position was spitter and i reckon he was alert to anything dropping to the front and square position. He ended up clearing it anyway. In the end , close to the ball we had a 6 on 4.
 

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My argument is that he should have been dropped. He was. He should have been dropped a few more times.

Drew was still putting in the hard yards and doing the 1%ers as well which has been mentioned.

Back on the subject at hand regarding Hansen being better than Reid, Reid is actually younger than Hansen.

It appears that you think anyone that has anything to say against Lachie hates him, it's not the case. I don't want him to be delisted or traded, I want him to live up to his obvious potential. At the moment he isn't anywhere near Ben Reid as a footballer and anyone who suggests otherwise is on another planet.
Hear Hear
 

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How many blokes can do that?

Seriously, how many AFL players can consistently float back in to a pack and take overhead marks?

It's one of the most courageous things an AFL player can do, let alone execute consistently and properly.

Yet, the wankers point and whinge that he's not Barry Cable beneath his knees!:rolleyes:
You're correct OS, very few players can float back and take overhead marks consistently and properly, including Lachie...

Loved it and will love seeing more of it in the future.

P.S. You still have yet to address the fact that I stated Lachie's biggest problem was lack of intensity back at the start of Feb and you did what you usually do, and attacked me as you do anyone who happens to hold a different view to yours. I would've thought that after the coach agreed, that a little bit of humble pie may have been called for...That's ok though, we both know you were wrong and I'll just remember that in the future as you continue to sprout off as the expert on all things NM. I'll also remember this when you ridicule anyone who doesn't think that all NM players are future hall of famers and that may have some constructive opions and critisms.
Good luck with that, the rest of us think you're delusional.
 

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1) Hansen picks the ball up in flight.

2) The days of one on one football died 15-20 years ago.

3) Hansen would be clearly instructed to play that way, there's no way he would be on the park if he wasn't, so if you think there is fault in this tactic then blames lies squarely with the coach and not Hansen.

4) I agree with your observations re- the crumbers. Where were their opponents, and how much blame would the average BF poster have heaped on Lachie if he spilled the mark and Sydney goaled? You can't blame Hansen for ANY of this. He is in the defence to provide an aerial presence.
Can you please post your recording of Brad Scott's instructions regarding this? clearly you have access to the inner sanctum the rest of us don't and you appear to have an intimate knowledge of specific instructions given to Lachie. WOW........

Make an observation, don't pretend to know specific instructions given to individuals and sprout them as a fact. It makes you look ridiculous.

Seriously though, great play by Lachie, would love him to be doing it at the other end and kicking 4-5 goals for us. I'm still hoping he can become our CHF and then FF (after Drew is finished.) With his undeniable marking talent and his courage, he could be a great foward.
 

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Pretty obvious Hansen will be instructed to be 3rd man up in as many contests as he can.

We haven't had any sort of marking dominance in our backline for years. If he can start to create havoc back there, we might finally be able to start to spread quicker and cleaner from HB.
 

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We haven't had any sort of marking dominance in our backline for years. If he can start to create havoc back there, we might finally be able to start to spread quicker and cleaner from HB.
Colbert and the short lived Petrie at CHB probably about it. Colby probably the only one who did it long term in that area with some authority.
 
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