Past #7: Adam Simpson - 306 games for NM (95-09; 5th AT) - NM captain (04-08) - current WCE head coach

who is better boomer or simmo and who would win the brownlow

  • boomer

    Votes: 8 66.7%
  • simmo

    Votes: 4 33.3%

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NICK_ROOBOY83

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Re: 7. Adam Simpson

Seems like this game was more like a three-off for Simmo. How did you rate his final?
I know. But at the time i didn't expect that to be the case.

Very poor finish to the season for Simmo. I really hope it had more to do with his injury then him actually.

I'll post final wrap up later tonight mate.
 

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Also, our players voted him in the best three players at the club (with Petrie and Boomer) up until the time of the nominations.

And we on Bigfooty had in as the 3rd best player at the club for most of the year.

Also led the club in total clearances despite playing 2 games less than the next best player.

But yeah, he had a bad few games coming back from injury. De-list him.
Well said Zebs.

Simmo might have been very average in the past 3 games but for most of the season his been easily in our top few.

I still think he shouldn't have played the last two H&A games.
 

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i think there was more than simmo running around on there last tanks of gas in the h & a season watching the lack lustre performance of us against port, and the tanks were running dry about the half way against the cats.

but simmo apart from his injury is great at marshalling the troops on the field. not everyone is a carey, who wins games off there own boot
 
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So let me see....
Pavlich
Mitchell
Harley
Riewoldt
Judd
Kirk
Lloyd
Luke Power
Brad Johnson
Simpson

You tell me and the rest of the forum (This will be funny) the 5 that are not as good as ADAM SIMPSON that must be below him...
Just a reminder....YOU NEED 5..!!!!!!
we didn't vote but pavlich, mitchell, harley, riewoldt, judd, lloyd, power, johnston, kirk and the rest of the afl players did, obviously they didn't know it's all about how fast you can run or how far you can kick the ball anyway i'm glad they stuffed up and very proud.
 

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Re: 7. Adam Simpson

Second Elimination Final,

Sydney Vs North Melbourne,

Adam Simpson's Stats:

Kicks:7
Handballs: 6
Marks: 2
Inside 50's: 0
Clangers: 2
Tackles: 4
Clearances: 3
Contested Poss: 2
Uncontested Poss: 8
Efficiency: 85%
Time on ground: 72%

These were just some of the stats i could find.


Well, we lost. Thats it for us this year. Poor way to finish.


Simmo struggled again. Especially in the second half, where he couldn't get close to Kirk who ended up killing us. Not a great way to finish the season for our captain.

It was a shit finish all around for the whole club.


Match Rating: 4

Season Average: 6.19

Season Total: 130
 

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No excuses, ever. You take the field you better be 100%.
If this was the case, most clubs wouldn't be able to field a side at this time of the year.

Part of being a good captain is the respect and committment of the playing group. This includes heaps of non game day aspects. There is no question that Simmo has the player's support.

As a player, he's been excellent. We all know about his disposal limitations, but he contributes consistently and does his job. Personally, I'd move him to defence where his reading of the play and courage will offset the loss in pace.

We simply can't afford to play Simmo, Harro, Rawlings and Power in the same midfield going forward.
 

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If this was the case, most clubs wouldn't be able to field a side at this time of the year.

Part of being a good captain is the respect and committment of the playing group. This includes heaps of non game day aspects. There is no question that Simmo has the player's support.

As a player, he's been excellent. We all know about his disposal limitations, but he contributes consistently and does his job. Personally, I'd move him to defence where his reading of the play and courage will offset the loss in pace.

We simply can't afford to play Simmo, Harro, Rawlings and Power in the same midfield going forward.
You are spot on about those 4 in midfield ......but
He is 33 before the start of the year.....You can't hide slow 33yo's in defence these days as in what clubs did with Arch at the end of last year....
Example....
Mooney,Stokes,Varcoe,Lonergan,Ottens,Stevie Johnson,Chapman....Just wondering who you could even remotely play him on....They would take him back to goal square and it would be a bloodbath....

Next year is 2009 no 1989.......
 
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If only our captain had of thought like this.....

"We are not going to take people in there that can't get through games of football," Malthouse warned on Wednesday.

"If something happens on the day, it's out of your control but you do control who plays."

"And in finals football too many sides have been burnt in the past (by playing injured players)."
 

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If this was the case, most clubs wouldn't be able to field a side at this time of the year.

Part of being a good captain is the respect and committment of the playing group. This includes heaps of non game day aspects. There is no question that Simmo has the player's support.

As a player, he's been excellent. We all know about his disposal limitations, but he contributes consistently and does his job. Personally, I'd move him to defence where his reading of the play and courage will offset the loss in pace.

We simply can't afford to play Simmo, Harro, Rawlings and Power in the same midfield going forward.

Have you been reading my mind Dingster? Simmo should be used purely as a role-player & for specific match-ups. There may even be games where there isn't a spot for him. BUT if he remains captain, he remains untouchable.
 

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You are spot on about those 4 in midfield ......but
He is 33 before the start of the year.....You can't hide slow 33yo's in defence these days as in what clubs did with Arch at the end of last year....
Example....
Mooney,Stokes,Varcoe,Lonergan,Ottens,Stevie Johnson,Chapman....Just wondering who you could even remotely play him on....They would take him back to goal square and it would be a bloodbath....

Next year is 2009 no 1989.......
He wouldn't be playing on a key position player and I would back Simmo one on one in that situation every day of the week. You've forgotten that he still is a more than capable player.
 
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He wouldn't be playing on a key position player and I would back Simmo one on one in that situation every day of the week. You've forgotten that he still is a more than capable player.
Just not last week......Or the week before.......Or the week before that....

Looking through rose colored glasses thinking sides would just pop the ball in the air....Give me a break....
Then each time under pressure his helicopters turning it over straight to opposition......Yeah good idea that.....

AFL has gone past slow 33yo's with big hearts but limited ability......!!!!!!
 
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AFL has gone past slow 33yo's with big hearts but limited ability......!!!!!!
So where do you think he will finish for us in terms of the Brownlow?
How about the B&F?
We already know the players thought he was in our best three players up until the time he was injured.

You are not on this rant just because a couple of games in an otherwise quality season, are you?
That would be kinda dumb.
 

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Re: 7. Adam Simpson

Second Elimination Final,

Sydney Vs North Melbourne,

Adam Simpson's Stats:

Kicks:7
Handballs: 6
Marks: 2
Inside 50's: 0
Clangers: 2
Tackles: 4
Clearances: 3
Contested Poss: 2
Uncontested Poss: 8
Efficiency: 85%
Time on ground: 72%

These were just some of the stats i could find.


Well, we lost. Thats it for us this year. Poor way to finish.


Simmo struggled again. Especially in the second half, where he couldn't get close to Kirk who ended up killing us. Not a great way to finish the season for our captain.

It was a shit finish all around for the whole club.


Match Rating: 4

Season Average: 6.19

Season Total: 130

Fair assessment there mate. Personally, for Simmo's last 3 games this year, I would give 0's. Because to be honest, he did nothing half-decent & cost us numerous goals.

Do you think he will still be captain next season?
 

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Re: 7. Adam Simpson

Fair assessment there mate. Personally, for Simmo's last 3 games this year, I would give 0's. Because to be honest, he did nothing half-decent & cost us numerous goals.

Do you think he will still be captain next season?
I gave him 4 votes for the last 3 games because i thought he still tried. Things just weren't working for him. Whether it was injury related or something else, i have no idea.

Tell you the truth, i wouldn't be shocked if he handed over the captaincy to Petrie before next season. It might not be a bad idea. But then again Laidley might want Simmo to see out his career as captain.

Overall i thought Simmo served us well this season.

BTW mate, what did you think of his season, overall?
 

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Re: 7. Adam Simpson

I gave him 4 votes for the last 3 games because i thought he still tried. Things just weren't working for him. Whether it was injury related or something else, i have no idea.

Tell you the truth, i wouldn't be shocked if he handed over the captaincy to Petrie before next season. It might not be a bad idea. But then again Laidley might want Simmo to see out his career as captain.

Overall i thought Simmo served us well this season.

BTW mate, what did you think of his season, overall?
Thanks for the feedback there mate.

Personally, I thought 2008 was a typical Simmo season (although his last month was as bad as I've ever seen him play). He had 2-3 very good games, 8-9 ok games & 6-7 shockers (roughly).
The fact our midfield functioned very well without him when he missed with injury tells me he is not such a vital cog in our midfield as some clowns on BF would have you think.
There can be no arguement the game has passed him by & his days as captain should certainly be over. His inability to have an impact on a game is frightening. I have no doubt he tries (as I would if I played for NMFC) BUT that alone does not give you the right to play AFL, let alone captain an AFL team.
If the coaching staff are serious re becoming a premiership contender, Simmo really can only be used as a `role-player' & may miss certain games if the right match-up doesn't exist.
 

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Re: 7. Adam Simpson

Thanks for the feedback there mate.

Personally, I thought 2008 was a typical Simmo season (although his last month was as bad as I've ever seen him play). He had 2-3 very good games, 8-9 ok games & 6-7 shockers (roughly).
The fact our midfield functioned very well without him when he missed with injury tells me he is not such a vital cog in our midfield as some clowns on BF would have you think.
There can be no arguement the game has passed him by & his days as captain should certainly be over. His inability to have an impact on a game is frightening. I have no doubt he tries (as I would if I played for NMFC) BUT that alone does not give you the right to play AFL, let alone captain an AFL team.
If the coaching staff are serious re becoming a premiership contender, Simmo really can only be used as a `role-player' & may miss certain games if the right match-up doesn't exist.
Your right, with the fact that we can't be relying on simmo anymore if we are to be a true premiership threat.

Simmo should be a burst player. The funny thing is, i reckon we played him as a burst player a few times this season & i reckon it worked well.

I guess our problem is a lack of midfield options that can do the job as well as simmo. Until that is rectified there really isn't much we can do.

Harris, we can't afford to lose & we need Swallow playing well.
 

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I guess our problem is a lack of midfield options that can do the job as well as simmo. Until that is rectified there really isn't much we can do.

Harris, we can't afford to lose & we need Swallow playing well.
My question to you is "Can we have Harris, Swallow, Simpson, Rawlings & Power in our midfield?"

My answer is a flat out - NO. All lack pace, particularly over the first 10m, & all have deficiencies in their disposal. The time has come to re-jig the midfield. Riggio, Urquhart & players of that ilk need game-time. I'm sick of our midfielders running 3/4 pace kicking 45m floaters.
 
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