astrovic
Premiership Player
In your heart of hearts you know it to be true.Who's the 21 year old this time around? Lark'ey'?
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In your heart of hearts you know it to be true.Who's the 21 year old this time around? Lark'ey'?
Na, I always blamed Scott and JZ.Its funny how things pan out. When Brad was coach if we played terrible it was the coaches fault Now Shaw is the coach it is the players fault in a lot of posters eyes Not having a go at sure for one minute just an observation.
This discussion has been had many times - JZ has been the elephant in the room for 2-3 years now.
At some point people will accept the reality that he is an average footballer - I have been banging on about this for a while now.
If we want to progress as a club we need new leadership on the ground and off the ground.
We have dealt with the latter and need to deal with the former at the end of the year.
We need to do it respectfully to JZ - he deserves that - but it must be done.
The way forward is for Jack to say....I need to concentrate on playing good footy and therefore am handing over the captaincy...
The alternative would be to let JZ be captain for the next 4 years and be automatically in the 22 - that is a recipe for mediocrity and I know Shaw and Rawlings won't put up with it.
I understand its a hard decision but it needs to be made at year end.
Well if that's the case we all be disappointed until JZ gives it away - unless of course you are in the cohort of membership who likes where we are at.You’re going to be disappointed
I'm so disappointed that such a great Shinboner has not become smart enough to iron out the negative aspects of his game after about a decade at the highest level.
And also so disappointed that he's not a captain who can go up a level in game, do inspirational things and drag us back into a game we're losing.
Well if that's the case we all be disappointed until JZ gives it away - unless of course you are in the cohort of membership who likes where we are at.
When our captain is on, we are on
If we are relying on that to get us up then we don’t play finals again while he is captain.
We resolved the issue when we pushed him forward, we are now reinventing old problems.
Yep he can't play forward, too slow for the midfield, with Scooter retiring I'd put JZ into the backline to play on the big body forwards.We won’t be an elite side as long as he is in the midfield. He also has shown this year that he is too slow to be a full time forward.
Terrible decision maker, terrible accountability.
It’s an indictment on the club that he STILL can’t run out a game to save himself.
He wouldn't be able to keep up and his hack kicks would kill us. He has no poise whatsoeverYep he can't play forward, too slow for the midfield, with Scooter retiring I'd put JZ into the backline to play on the big body forwards.
JZ should get a tattoo of ‘I went to the 150 year celebrations and captained a team that kicked 1.8.14’
The only way he rewrites the history books from here is being honest with himself.
No stone unturned Jack.
It’s time for actions not words.It bothered me that he virtually copied word for word what Rhyce said in the press conference. Carve your own path, JZ.
Agree. It's a balance related issue like many others. With JZ forward then Garner, Zurhaar, Wood becomes too many 3rd tall types for mine. It works sometimes, but won't work too often unless all four of them are capable of playing more upfield. I think this is an issue that is solveable off season though. It's frustrating to watch JZ in the middle banging it forward but it says just as much about the rest of the midfield group IMO - they could barely even get their hands on the ball, at least Ziebell can find it.
It bothered me that he virtually copied word for word what Rhyce said in the press conference. Carve your own path, JZ.