Phantom Draft 75 phantom drafts analysis - whose is best? Now includes 2016, 2017 and 2018

[Clems Knee]

The phantoms and big boards that I have looked at are as follows:
The in-season lists:
Chris25 5/7 top 60
Rancid Trogs 16/7
Shamrock 31/7
The Trial run 11/8
Twomey's September Phantom form guide 8/9
Bishop Power Rankings 18/9
Carlton Phantom Draft 20/9
Footyprophet 1st edition 7/10
missionpossible 9/10

The post Combine lists:
Chris25 21/10
eth-dog 24/10
don patch sword 25/10
getgaff 25/10
Knightmare 27/10
AFL draft central October Draft 27/10
RedBulls #1 28/10
DraftMe 30/10
Scullywag 30/10
AFLprospectss 30/10
Bishop 31/10
WEEVZ 31/10
cooperg 2/11
PhoenixBonez 4/11
RedBulls #2 4/11
DangerIsLove 4/11
Foxsports power rankings: top 25 5/11
The Roar v1 6/11
Maggsy 7/11
Footyprophet 2nd Edition 7/11
adammania9 8/11
West Coast Eagles Mock Draft 9/11
POULTERBEAR 11/11
St. Kilda Board Phantom Draft 12/11
grundog49 13/11
AFLprospectss 13/11
Foxsports Champion data top 30 14/11
PoulterBear 14/11
BigFooty Phantom Draft 14/11
Hurlingpeoplenow consensus phantom Draft. 14/11
Hurlingpeoplenow pick mode consensus phantom Draft. 14/11
Road to the Draft top 30 Mock Draft 15/11
adammania9 15/11
Carlton Phantom draft#2
Knightmare updated phantom draft 16/11

The last week lists:
JRyan23 17/11
SEN Brett Anderson Top 50 17/11
Twomey's Final Phantom Form Guide 18/11
Snoop Dog 18/11
Quigley Draft Ratings 18/11
Eth-dog 19/11
DraftMe 19/11
Yojimbo fantasy fifty 17/11 - 19/11
Emma Quayle's best 30 19/11
Essendon Board Mock Draft 19/11
DraftMe Big Board top100 21/11
Bishop Power Rankings 21/11
cuved9 21/11
Chris25 the big board - Draft Week Edition 22/11
Don Patch sword 22/11
SEN Brett Anderson final mock draft 22/11
Twomey's Phantom Draft 23/11
Chris25 23/11
PhoenixBonez 23/11
Langers is Life top 30 23/11
Flea_29 23/11
Gee Dub rankings 23/11
Gee Dub draft 23/11
BigFooty Phantom Draft no 2. (Run by Roo Beauty ) 24/11
Knightmare's final phantom draft 24/11
DraftMe 24/11
North Melbourne board phantom draft 24/11
LemmingMaster Big Board 24/11
Callum Twomey's late mail 24/11
RedBulls final Draft 24/11
Emma Quayle's final phantom draft 24/11

I will start adding numbers to these drafts based on the cumulative difference between expected and actual numbers of a draftees pick, plus numbers of direct hits.

 

[LemmingMaster]

It would be great to revist this thread in 5 years+ time.

 

[jjami15]

What a cracking effort, slightly crazy but nonetheless great effort.

 

[serial_thrilla]

Clem - be aware that Footy Prophet did a 3rd phantom draft last Sunday: http://footyprophet.com/fp-2016-phantom-draft-the-review/
Unfortunatley it's not in numerical order (it's sorted by teams) - but at least they get rid of that Villis early pick discrepancy.

 

[Clems Knee]

What a cracking effort, slightly crazy but nonetheless great effort.

Slightly is good for me.

 

[Yojimbo]

Don't waste too much time on that draft Clem's Knee fell
apart in the twenties and never recovered. On a sound
positive note the rookie draft should be good, plenty
left over.

 

[Clems Knee]

I have added a number in front of each of the lists below. This is a calculation of the real top 30 compared with where they were expected to be drafted. I added up the absolute differences between the two values. I didn't go above 30th pick, because that would have disadvantaged the drafters who only gave lists of 30. It disadvantaged them a fair bit anyway.

Smaller is better. A score of 300 means each draft pick differed by an average of 10.

The in-season lists:
386 Chris25 5/7 top 60
334 Rancid Trogs 16/7
395 Shamrock 31/7
406 The Trial run 11/8
318 Twomey's September Phantom form guide 8/9
322 Bishop Power Rankings 18/9
322 Carlton Phantom Draft 20/9
290 Footyprophet 1st edition 7/10
380 missionpossible 9/10

Footyprophet a clear winner here, with Callum Twomey also doing well so early. Of the BigFooty posters, Bishop and the Carlton draft were closest.

The post Combine lists:
272 Chris25 21/10
291 eth-dog 24/10
261 don patch sword 25/10
285 getgaff 25/10
230 Knightmare 27/10
239 AFL draft central October Draft 27/10
246 RedBulls #1 28/10
238 DraftMe 30/10
285 Scullywag 30/10
237 AFLprospectss 30/10
239 Bishop 31/10
271 WEEVZ 31/10
269 cooperg 2/11
241 PhoenixBonez 4/11
206 RedBulls #2 4/11
233 DangerIsLove 4/11
324 Foxsports power rankings: top 25 5/11
232 The Roar v1 6/11
284 Maggsy 7/11
229 Footyprophet 2nd Edition 7/11
213 adammania9 8/11
292 West Coast Eagles Mock Draft 9/11
214 POULTERBEAR 11/11
232 St. Kilda Board Phantom Draft 12/11
226 grundog49 13/11
207 AFLprospectss 13/11
274 Foxsports Champion data top 30 14/11
225 PoulterBear 14/11
232 BigFooty Phantom Draft 14/11
206 Hurlingpeoplenow consensus phantom Draft. 14/11
208 Hurlingpeoplenow pick mode consensus phantom Draft. 14/11
232 Road to the Draft top 30 Mock Draft 15/11
225 adammania9 15/11
250 Carlton Phantom draft#2
236 Knightmare updated phantom draft 16/11

The discrepancies went down after the Combine. A consensus Phantom Draft did well, while RedBull and AFLprospectss were the leaders in this group.

The last week lists:
205 JRyan23 17/11
263 SEN Brett Anderson Top 50 17/11
240 Twomey's Final Phantom Form Guide 18/11
232 Snoop Dog 18/11
329 Quigley Draft Ratings 18/11
207.5 Eth-dog 19/11
211 DraftMe 19/11
233 Yojimbo fantasy fifty 17/11 - 19/11
217 Emma Quayle's best 30 19/11
222 Essendon Board Mock Draft 19/11
239 DraftMe Big Board top100 21/11
280 Bishop Power Rankings 21/11
212 cuved9 21/11
339 Chris25 the big board - Draft Week Edition 22/11
217 Don Patch sword 22/11
154 SEN Brett Anderson final mock draft 22/11
183 Twomey's Phantom Draft 23/11
251 Chris25 23/11
182 PhoenixBonez 23/11
253 Langers is Life top 30 23/11
195 Flea_29 23/11
357 Gee Dub rankings 23/11
157 Gee Dub draft 23/11
227 Footy Prophet 23/11
188 BigFooty Phantom Draft no 2. (Run by Roo Beauty ) 24/11
183 Knightmare's final phantom draft 24/11
179 DraftMe 24/11
236 North Melbourne board phantom draft 24/11
258 LemmingMaster Big Board 24/11
189 Callum Twomey's late mail 24/11
213 RedBulls final Draft 24/11
210 Emma Quayle's final phantom draft 24/11

Brett Anderson (SEN) had the better of Cal Twomey and Emma Quayle in the days leading up to the draft.
Among Big Footy posters, Gee Dub's phantom was the most accurate .

 

[Clems Knee]

I also used the stats I've collected to ask the question "Which clubs reached for their players the most and which got bargains?"
This implies the combined wisdom of the phantom drafts is worth comparing to. Which some would debate, but it does give a numerical figure to the complaints that we all hear when a club selects someone few of us have heard of.
For this, I subtracted the real draft pick of a player from their average phantom draft pick. A player with a negative score was selected lower than expected, a positive score higher.
For example, Sean Darcy got picked at 38, but the 6 drafts that selected him had an average of 73.2. Difference = 35.2. But Luke Ryan was widely tipped to picked earlier (at an average of 33.3) was picked at 66. Difference = -32.7
This was impossible for 5 players who weren't picked by any phantom drafts, so they were left blank. (Geelong had two of these.)

I then added these scores together to get an idea of the difference from expectations of each club's draft picks.

Richmond -45.5
Gold Coast -44.1
Carlton -36.2
Brisbane -28.0
West Coast -26.3
Hawthorn -20.7
Essendon -18.3
Fremantle -5.1
Adelaide -4.7
Sydney 8.6
Port Adelaide 16.7
St. Kilda 22.4
Melbourne 26.0
GWS 27.6
North Melbourne 32.0
Collingwood 36.5
Western Bulldogs 39.0
Geelong 50.4

Overall, Richmond, Gold Coast and Carlton fans should feel happy that they got the biggest bargains, while Geelong, Bulldogs and Collingwood fans will have to trust that their recruiting teams knew what they would were doing, because they reached the most for the players they selected.

 

[Clems Knee]

Going on from my previous post, these players were the top ten sliders from BigFooty expectations (who actually got selected -Jonty Scharenberg and Zach Sproule share the undrafted sliders title).
Brad Scheer Gold Coast
Patrick Kerr Carlton
Luke Ryan Fremantle
Dylan Clarke Essendon
Jake Waterman West Coast
Ryan Garthwaite Richmond
Harry Morrison Hawthorn
Harrison MacReadie Carlton
Corey Lyons Brisbane
Jack Graham Richmond

These players were the top ten bolters from phantom draft expectations:
Sean Darcy Fremantle
Sam McLarty Collingwood
Patrick Lipinski Western Bulldogs
Mitch Hannan Melbourne
Ben Long St. Kilda
Esava Ratugolea Geelong
Declan Watson North Melbourne
Lewis Young Western Bulldogs
Brandon Parfitt Geelong
Isaac Cumming GWS

These players weren't even considered by any of the 76 drafts I surveyed:
Timm House Geelong
Ryan Abbott Geelong
Matthew de Boer GWS
Mitchell Lewis Hawthorn
Dion Johnstone Melbourne
Fergus Greene Western Bulldogs

 

[POBT]

Great thread Clems Knee .

 

[theGav56]

If they hadn't been considered perhaps they should be rated at the last drafted position in order to rate the "bolting"?

 

[Clems Knee]

If they hadn't been considered perhaps they should be rated at the last drafted position in order to rate the "bolting"?

I could do that, but it wouldn't make much difference. (Just did it to check!)
Instead of adding 0 to the score, it would add between 1 and 13 for the players, except the mighty Matthew de Boer, who would add 19 to the score. Only Hawthorn is in bargain territory in that list, and they still would be (just behind Essendon). Melbourne, GWS, Western Bulldogs and Geelong would be shown to have reached even more.

 

[aussieviking]

I could do that, but it wouldn't make much difference. (Just did it to check!)
Instead of adding 0 to the score, it would add between 1 and 13 for the players, except the mighty Matthew de Boer, who would add 19 to the score. Only Hawthorn is in bargain territory in that list, and they still would be (just behind Essendon). Melbourne, GWS, Western Bulldogs and Geelong would be shown to have reached even more.

I hope you do this again this year

 

[borderbarry]

Looking forward to this years effort Clems Knee.

 

[go_the_dockers]

It would be interesting to see who did the best draft not based on how accurate they were, but how close they were if the players were drafted now.

 

[KissKiss]

It would be interesting to see who did the best draft not based on how accurate they were, but how close they were if the players were drafted now.

The power rankings have always been a bit more interesting in that. Not swayed by trying to predict who clubs want/need

 

[Clems Knee]

I hope you do this again this year

Looking forward to this years effort Clems Knee.

Thank you, I wasn't going to. I was very interested in Sammo PS and how he was going, and this year I don't have as much vested interest. Very time consuming, especially in the week before the draft and setting up. Might give it another crack.

It would be interesting to see who did the best draft not based on how accurate they were, but how close they were if the players were drafted now.

I always planned to look at the phantom drafts again once the redo the 2016 draft thread comes out and (kind of) reaches a consensus. Anecdotedly, I think Quigley is among the best at picking the long term winners. But he picked SPS as number one, so at the moment that opinion is just my confirmation bias. Will be interesting to see.

 

[theGav56]

This was very interesting.

 

[Clems Knee]

I looked at all the Phantom Drafts and Rankings that I could find for the 2017 draft and categorised them in the same way as last year. The lists had to be in numerical order down to at least 30. I didn't look at Phantom Rookie Drafts.
This year I found 74 lists, down from 75. No Quigley, no Emma Quayle and no Gee Dub, among others, but some Bigfooty drafters left their earlier boards up for people to see changes.
This year there were 181 individual players named as prospective draftees, compared to 176 last year.

The variation among the top picks was greater this year. Last year 6 players were touted as being no. 1 pick over the course of the year. This year 10 different players were placed no.1 at some stage.
Last year 6 players who didn't get named in any phantom draft got picked up in the real thing. This year there were only 3 - Connor Nutting, Zac Langdon and Sam Switkowski, but there were 4 players who were only named once in phantoms, including the No. 19 pick Wil Powell (named at pick 68 by Brett Anderson).

To evaluate the phantoms, I added together the (non-negative) difference between each top 30 phantom pick and where they really finished. A score of 300 means an average difference of 10 places from their eventual finish. Last year the best (lowest) score was 154. This year it was 167, again by Brett Anderson of SEN. Fair to say, he is the best of the professional Phantom Drafters, by a sizeable margin.

Just like last year I split the Phantoms into three groups: In Season, Post Draft Combine and Last Week.
Last year there were 9 In Season lists beginning in July ranging from 290 to 406 (averaging 350). This year there were 12, beginning in January (5 before July) and ranging from 324 to 613 (averaging 427).
Last year there were 35 Post Draft Combine Lists ranging from 206 to 292 (averaging 245). This year 36 scores ranged from 215 (eastfreo75) to 324 (averaging 306).
Last year there were 32 Last Week Lists ranging from 154 to 357 (averaging 227). This year 26 scores ranged from 167 to 378 (averaging 252).

What does it all mean? It really was a wide open draft, but the depth appears to be better than I expected. I'm really grateful to those who make the effort early in the year, as it is so difficult to get a handle on the young talent. After the combine, the players can't do any more to change their positions and its interesting to see what the draft watchers make of it. In the last week, the phantoms are pretty much based on the rumour mill, and then it becomes a case of who has the better contacts.

More to follow.

 

[Clems Knee]

2017 Phantom Drafts
The number in front means the cumulated difference between the phantom's top30 and their real position in the draft.
As with last year, smaller is better. A score of 300 means each draft pick differed by an average of 10.

The In Season Lists
613 Josh Poulter’s Big board 2/1/2017
484 Bishop Draft Rankings 10/5/2017
451 D_P_S Draft Rankings 10/5/2017
522 AFLprospectss pre Champs rankings 29/5/2017
394 LemmingMaster Rankings 30/6/2017
407 Hutchy Jnr ’s 2017 rankings 6/7/2017
423 Bishop Draft Rankings 16/7/2017
324 BigFooty Phantom Draft …Trial Run 18/7/2017
395 Davo-27 2017 draft thread 28/8/2017
374 Bishop Draft Rankings 31/8/2017
364 D_P_S Draft Rankings 16/7/2017
373 D_P_S Draft Rankings 27/8/2017

The Bigfooty Phantom Draft trial run was the worst of the in season lists last year, but the best this year. Most of the early Phantom guides were limited to the first round or top 10, so could not be counted.

The Post Combine Lists
336 TheSmythe's Power Rankings 13/10/2017
378 Langers is Life Draft Rankings 17/10/2017
361 Maggsy ’s opinion of who they SHOULD draft. 20/10/2017
249 eth-dog ’s 2017 Phantom 20/10/2017
379 Langers is Life Phantom Draft 22/10/2017
271 Knightmare ’s October phantom draft - first two rounds 25/10/2017
339 Chris25 Young Talent Time October Phantom Draft 26/10/2017
296 LionKing92 Top40 Draft Prospects 27/10/2017
292 LionKing92 2017 AFL Mock Draft 27/10/2017
344 Bishop Draft Rankings 31/10/2017
296 Son_Of_God29 Mock Draft 2017 1/11/2017
312 Eastcoasteagle Vinnie’s 2017 Phantom Draft 2/11/2017
290 zookota123's 2017 AFL Phantom Draft Round 1+2 3/11/2017
319 Langers is Life Phantom Draft (revised) 4/11/2017
274 Thesidelineofficial.blog 2017 AFL 2-round Mock Draft Brent Sternberg 11/11/2017
287 PMBangers Phantom Draft 12/11/2017
367 missionpossible 2017 mission draft ratings 12/11/2017
239 Knightmare’s November phantom draft - first three rounds 13/11/2017
278 Essendon Board Mock Draft. Started 30th October 13/11/2017
314 TheSmythe ’s Full Updated Draft 14/11/2017
264 D_P_S Draft Rankings final 14/11/2017
275 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Combined 14/11/2017
277 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Lenny Fogliani 14/11/2017
325 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Craig Byrnes 14/11/2017
276 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Matt Palf 14/11/2017
290 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Dan Batten 14/11/2017
255 Road to the Draft top 30 Mock draft Cal Twomey and Mick Ablett 14/11/2017
215 eastfreo75 draft 15/11/2017
321 HedgeFund A Highly Unhelpful Mock Draft 15/11/2017
351 Yojimbo Fifty Pick Phantom 2017 15/11/2017
266 The Roar AFL mock draft 2017:Top 30 Maddy Friend and Josh Elliott 15/11/2017
447 Champion Data Top 30 Rankings 16/11/2017
289 Bigfooty 2017 Official draft started 7th Nov 16/11/2017
279 Peter Wallis Top 30 Phantom Draft 17/11/2017
253 HPNfooty.com 2017 Consensus Phantom Draft 17/11/2017
408 Chris25 November Rankings 17/11/2017

Some of these lists are Phantom Drafts, which try to predict the draft order, and some are rankings which are more likely to differ from the actual draft as they are the poster's opinion of who in the draft pool is the best. eastfreo75 produced a very impressive phantom over 5 weeks away from the draft.

The Last Week lists
277 getgaff ’s 2017 Phantom 18/11/2017
304 @Paddy_688’s November Updated* Phantom 20/11/2017
237 RedBulls 2017 Top 30 Prediction 20/11/2017
281 St. Kilda Board 2017 Big Footy AFL Draft 20/11/2017
306 tigerz18 Phantom Draft V2 20/11/2017
167 SEN Brett Anderson AFL mock draft 20/11/2017
241 Footyprophet’s Mock Draft Live 20/11/2017
378 Knightmare’s extended power rankings 21/11/2017
214 Carlton board 2107 Phantom Draft started Nov 15 21/11/2017
245 Snoop Dog 2018(sic!) Phantom Draft 21/11/2017
285 Richmond board 2017 Phantom draft 21/11/2017
244 adammania9 Adzy’s 2017 Phantom Draft 22/11/2017
234 Callum Twomeys 2017 phantom draft 22/11/2017
364 Gary Buckenara’s top50 HeraldSun 22/11/2017
234 Reddit 2017/r/AFL Phantom draft 22/11/2017
213 Callum Twomey’s Late Mail 2017 Phantom draft 23/11/2017
254 theSmythe’s Latest Phantom Draft 23/11/2017
202 Bishop’s final Phantom Draft 23/11/2017
261 Brisbane board Mock Draft started Nov 3 24/11/2017
217 True Footy Podcast Updated Phantom 24/11/2017
185 Fox Footy’s full top 50 phantom draft Riley Beveridge 24/11/2017
230 Zookota’s Updated Round 1 and 2 24/11/2017
209 D_P_S Final Phantom Draft 24/11/2017
220 Knightmare’s final Phantom draft espn.com.au 24/11/2017
283 Geelong board 2017 Phantom Draft 24/11/2017
257 The Final 2017 HPN Consensus Phantom Draft 24/11/2017

Both years, SEN's Brett Anderson has been the best performer, followed this year by Fox Footy's Riley Beveridge. Bishop and D_P_S were the only two BigFooty posters to beat eastfreo's draft from weeks before.

 

[HedgeFund]

2017 Phantom Drafts
The number in front means the cumulated difference between the phantom's top30 and their real position in the draft.
As with last year, smaller is better. A score of 300 means each draft pick differed by an average of 10.

The In Season Lists
613 Josh Poulter’s Big board 2/1/2017
484 Bishop Draft Rankings 10/5/2017
451 D_P_S Draft Rankings 10/5/2017
522 AFLprospectss pre Champs rankings 29/5/2017
394 LemmingMaster Rankings 30/6/2017
407 Hutchy Jnr ’s 2017 rankings 6/7/2017
423 Bishop Draft Rankings 16/7/2017
324 BigFooty Phantom Draft …Trial Run 18/7/2017
395 Davo-27 2017 draft thread 28/8/2017
374 Bishop Draft Rankings 31/8/2017
364 D_P_S Draft Rankings 16/7/2017
373 D_P_S Draft Rankings 27/8/2017

The Bigfooty Phantom Draft trial run was the worst of the in season lists last year, but the best this year. Most of the early Phantom guides were limited to the first round or top 10.

The Post Combine Lists
336 TheSmythe's Power Rankings 13/10/2017
378 Langers is Life Draft Rankings 17/10/2017
361 Maggsy ’s opinion of who they SHOULD draft. 20/10/2017
249 eth-dog ’s 2017 Phantom 20/10/2017
379 Langers is Life Phantom Draft 22/10/2017
271 Knightmare ’s October phantom draft - first two rounds 25/10/2017
339 Chris25 Young Talent Time October Phantom Draft 26/10/2017
296 LionKing92 Top40 Draft Prospects 27/10/2017
292 LionKing92 2017 AFL Mock Draft 27/10/2017
344 Bishop Draft Rankings 31/10/2017
296 Son_Of_God29 Mock Draft 2017 1/11/2017
312 Eastcoasteagle Vinnie’s 2017 Phantom Draft 2/11/2017
290 zookota123's 2017 AFL Phantom Draft Round 1+2 3/11/2017
319 Langers is Life Phantom Draft (revised) 4/11/2017
274 Thesidelineofficial.blog 2017 AFL 2-round Mock Draft Brent Sternberg 11/11/2017
287 PMBangers Phantom Draft 12/11/2017
367 missionpossible 2017 mission draft ratings 12/11/2017
239 Knightmare’s November phantom draft - first three rounds 13/11/2017
278 Essendon Board Mock Draft. Started 30th October 13/11/2017
314 TheSmythe ’s Full Updated Draft 14/11/2017
264 D_P_S Draft Rankings final 14/11/2017
275 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Combined 14/11/2017
277 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Lenny Fogliani 14/11/2017
325 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Craig Byrnes 14/11/2017
276 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Matt Palf 14/11/2017
290 footyprophet.com 2017 Big Draft Board Dan Batten 14/11/2017
255 Road to the Draft top 30 Mock draft Cal Twomey and Mick Ablett 14/11/2017
215 eastfreo75 draft 15/11/2017
321 HedgeFund A Highly Unhelpful Mock Draft 15/11/2017
351 Yojimbo Fifty Pick Phantom 2017 15/11/2017
266 The Roar AFL mock draft 2017:Top 30 Maddy Friend and Josh Elliott 15/11/2017
447 Champion Data Top 30 Rankings 16/11/2017
289 Bigfooty 2017 Official draft started 7th Nov 16/11/2017
279 Peter Wallis Top 30 Phantom Draft 17/11/2017
253 HPNfooty.com 2017 Consensus Phantom Draft 17/11/2017
408 Chris25 November Rankings 17/11/2017

Some of these lists are Phantom Drafts, which try to predict the draft order, and some are rankings which are more likely to differ from the actual draft as they are the poster's opinion of who in the draft pool is the best. eastfreo75 produced a very impressive phantom over 5 weeks away from the draft.

The Last Week lists
277 getgaff ’s 2017 Phantom 18/11/2017
304 @Paddy_688’s November Updated* Phantom 20/11/2017
237 RedBulls 2017 Top 30 Prediction 20/11/2017
281 St. Kilda Board 2017 Big Footy AFL Draft 20/11/2017
306 tigerz18 Phantom Draft V2 20/11/2017
167 SEN Brett Anderson AFL mock draft 20/11/2017
241 Footyprophet’s Mock Draft Live 20/11/2017
378 Knightmare’s extended power rankings 21/11/2017
214 Carlton board 2107 Phantom Draft started Nov 15 21/11/2017
245 Snoop Dog 2018(sic!) Phantom Draft 21/11/2017
285 Richmond board 2017 Phantom draft 21/11/2017
244 adammania9 Adzy’s 2017 Phantom Draft 22/11/2017
234 Callum Twomeys 2017 phantom draft 22/11/2017
364 Gary Buckenara’s top50 HeraldSun 22/11/2017
234 Reddit 2017/r/AFL Phantom draft 22/11/2017
213 Callum Twomey’s Late Mail 2017 Phantom draft 23/11/2017
254 theSmythe’s Latest Phantom Draft 23/11/2017
202 Bishop’s final Phantom Draft 23/11/2017
261 Brisbane board Mock Draft started Nov 3 24/11/2017
217 True Footy Podcast Updated Phantom 24/11/2017
185 Fox Footy’s full top 50 phantom draft Riley Beveridge 24/11/2017
230 Zookota’s Updated Round 1 and 2 24/11/2017
209 D_P_S Final Phantom Draft 24/11/2017
220 Knightmare’s final Phantom draft espn.com.au 24/11/2017
283 Geelong board 2017 Phantom Draft 24/11/2017
257 The Final 2017 HPN Consensus Phantom Draft 24/11/2017

Both years, SEN's Brett Anderson has been the best performer, followed this year by Fox Footy's Riley Beveridge. Bishop and D_P_S were the only two BigFooty posters to beat eastfreo's draft from weeks before.

That’s why Bishop and D_P_S should be everyone’s “go to’s” when it comes to BF draft knowledge.

Well done fellas.

 

[Clems Knee]

Just as I did last year, I used the stats I've collected to ask the question "Which clubs reached for their players the most and which got bargains?"
This implies the combined wisdom of the phantom drafts is worth comparing to. Which some would debate, but it does give a numerical figure to the complaints that we all hear when a club selects someone few of us have heard of.
For this, I subtracted the real draft pick of a player from their average phantom draft pick. A player with a negative score was selected later than expected, a positive score earlier.


Hawthorn -73.0 Only 3 (late) draftees, but all 3 were sliders.
Port Adelaide -65.9 5 (late) draftees with 3 being sliders
Geelong -40.5 Reversed the strategy of last year with 2 of the 4 draftees being sliders
Richmond -13.0 Only one of the 5 (CCJ) being a belter, with the rest being moderate sliders
Essendon -11.9 Two out of 3 were sliders
Collingwood -10.4 only 3 draftees, with one slider (Murphy)
Adelaide -4.9 Only 2 draftees, both thereabouts, but Fogarty was averaged at 7-8, so they'd be very happy.
Sydney -1.2 Only 3 draftees. One slider (Stoddart) and 2 bolters.
GWS 4.4 (plus a big score for Zac Giles Langdon who wasn't placed in the phantoms) 5 draftees.Apart from Shipley, each player was taken earlier than expected.
Fremantle 6.7 (plus a big score for Sam Switkowski who wasn't placed in the phantoms). 8 draftees. Certainly doesn't deserve a D+ based on the collected wisdom of Phantom drafters. No player (except Sam) was more than 7 from their expected draft position.
St. Kilda 8.0 All 4 draftees close to expected draft position
Western Bulldogs 9.3 all 3 draftees close to expected draft position
North Melbourne 10.8 Will Walker was the big bolter, with the other 4 draftees taken later than expected.
Melbourne 11.7 Bayley Fritsch was a bolter, with the other 3 taken around the mark.
Brisbane 11.8 Of the 6 draftees, Ballenden was a slider, Zac Bailey and Brandon Starcevich were bolters, and the others as expected.
Carlton 12.0 (plus a big score for Jarrod Garlett who wasn't placed in the phantoms) 5 draftees. Schumacher was expected earlier by those who rated him (only 3), but all others were taken earlier than predicted.
West Coast 18.5 6 draftees. Liam Ryan and Brayden Ainsworth were bolters, but the other 4 draftees were taken slightly later than expected.
Gold Coast 28.0 (plus a big score for Connor Nutting who wasn't placed in the phantoms) 4 draftees. Wil Powell the true bolter of the draft, which was countered by two sliders.

Overall, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide and Geelong fans should feel happy that they got the biggest bargains, while Gold Coast, West Coast and Carlton fans will have to trust that their recruiting teams knew what they would were doing, because they reached the most for the players they selected.

 

[briztoon]

Daylight between the Carlton boards phantom draft and the other BigFooty phantom drafts.

289 Bigfooty 2017 Official draft started 7th Nov 16/11/2017
283 Geelong board 2017 Phantom Draft 24/11/2017
281 St. Kilda Board 2017 Big Footy AFL Draft 20/11/2017
278 Essendon Board Mock Draft. Started 30th October 13/11/2017
261 Brisbane board Mock Draft started Nov 3 24/11/2017

214 Carlton board 2107 Phantom Draft started Nov 15 21/11/2017

 

[LemmingMaster]

Happy with my in season list, considering at the time a few names were considered to be ranked a lot higher or lower.

 

[Chris25]

That’s why Bishop and D_P_S should be everyone’s “go to’s” when it comes to BF draft knowledge.

Well done fellas.

Maybe on the day of the draft when they update.