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Player Watch #8 James Rowbottom - pick 25, welcome to Sydney

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  1. Jewelsbon

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    Oh my God reading that date makes me feel soooooooo old :cry:
     

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  2. RUNVS

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    I was preparing for my year 6 school formal. I was shite at line dancing.
     
  3. 6yearsold

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    some people on here are kidding themselves if they think we are going to throw a 1st year kid into the middle next year without him first proving himself in the neafl and then there being a significant amount of injuries.
     
  4. RUNVS

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    Disagree. Plenty of midfielders get considerable game time in their first year in the AFL.
     
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    Top 5 picks at clubs like carlton maybe.

    Whose he going to displace in our midfield?

    Where is the historical evidence that Sydney operate like that?

    Not even Heeney and Mills played midfield first year. Mitchell was getting 60 possessions in the neafl.
     
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  6. Punts

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    We never throw them straight into the middle

    Parker , Hanners , Heeney etc etc all started as either HF of HB before they went in the middle

    Even a Brownlow winner was played as a HF before he went into the guts

    Won’t get a game in the middle imo
     
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  7. RUNVS

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    There is a difference here though and that is Rowbottom is a pure inside mid. He himself admits he needs to work on other aspects of his game. As a result though he will need to be played as a pure inside mid since unlike Heeney he can't really be thrown into a position he is not used to.
     
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  8. Punts

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    What was Mitchell
     
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  9. RUNVS

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    He was used mostly as a tagger and a 4th midfielder wasn't he?

    I could easily imagine Rowbottom being a tagger in 2019 and Hewett being moved into a full time midfielder position.
     
  10. 6yearsold

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    A little perspective:

    Knighmare (espn draft writer)

    "Rowbottom an ok mid - numbers decent but low impact per possession and can go for 25d and go unnoticed. With Sydney trading into that pick with the intent to take Rowbottom, it left me feeling underwhelmed".

    Matt Balmer (fox sports draft writer)

    "The midfielder had a consistent season at all levels. While his foot skills is an area he can improve, his ball-winning nous and clearance work is his strength. He can win the contested ball and gets the ball inside 50 on multiple occasions during games".
     
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    Played HF
     

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  12. RUNVS

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    Which as we know is a rather terrible position for Mitchell given his skill set.
     
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    Hewett was the same and they made him play 2 or 3 years in the NEAFL beforegiving him a game and even then they played him as a forward.
     
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    He'll play neafl unless we have major injury problems. High hopes for him though, what we needed
     
  15. caesar88

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    The difference between Rowbottom and the other Swans mids mentioned above is that he is coming into the club at a time when our midfield is transitioning on the back of two seasons of at times diabolical midfield thrashings. We’re no longer a supreme midfield with four or five superstars we can rely on every week. Not saying Rowbottom will play 20 games, he may very well only play 1. But it automatically gives him a fighting chance at cracking into our midfield as spots are definitely up for grabs. Let’s face it we’ve been needing change. This kid fits the bill as one of those who can bring that change.
     
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    THat is an excellent point and one I did not think about before now. This is not the midfield we had when Mitchell could not get a game, this midfield is vastly different and no where near as solid. In fact statistically the Swans midfield was around 17th in the AFL for clearances in 2018 which is beyond poor so with that kind of record no one here can say that there are many locks in the midfield in terms of who should play every week. In fact I think one of the main goals for Longmire in 2019 should be to even up the contest in the clearances, giving the Swans first use of the ball, and I don't care which players are used in order to achive that. If Clarke is a better choice in the centre than Kennedy or Parker, then so be it. A big name should not be a guarantee of an in and under midfield position.
     
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    You do realise that the average per game between us and Essendon who holds third spot is one extra centre clearance per game over a full season. Yes getting first use of the ball is important (and there was a slump in that area in 2018) but to focus on it solely is pointless. The midfield needs to strike the right mix between winning the ball, defending and providing our forwards proper service which they haven't been able to do for a while.

    So no point rushing a player like Rowbottom in to pad a stat when others need to improve first as well as changes to the gameplan
     
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    Of course I realise that, but our current midfielders are not really providing any proper service to our forwards so we may as well give the younger players a go. If the older ones can't win clearances and are to afraid to take the game on then we may as well see what the younger ones can do. I mean what do we have to lose as there is no way we are winning the 2019 premiership with the same style of midfield we had in 2017 and 2018.
     
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    A garden gnome?
     
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    The whole midfield will be revamped in 19. Trade selections designed to release Mills and Jones to midfield. Hanners no longer there. Hewett freed up from tagger role with gut running Clarke inclusion. I think our midfield will be an entirely different proposition in 2019 and contrary to what many here think I happen to believe that Jones' attack on the run will be a powerful tool and a success. When a midfielder can beat two opposition with his run and physicality then that can split a team wide open.
     
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    I think a very important factor is who replaces Mills in defence. We need someone to take Mills position so Mills can be a full time midfielder.
     
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    Hi folks, just picked him up in a draft league. Does anyone know his birth date please?
    Cheers.
     
  24. RUNVS

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    Supposedly this

     
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    Cheers
     
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