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I seem to recall him getting tossed aside by gary rohan
I'd rather see ridley and or francis in that role for the future. Gleeson is too small to be the 3rd tall and doesn't have enough toe or strength in a tackle to be in the other roles for mine.
Give him half a year outta footy and people are carrying on like he placed in the b&f or something.
I seem to recall him getting tossed aside by gary rohan
I'd rather see ridley and or francis in that role for the future. Gleeson is too small to be the 3rd tall and doesn't have enough toe or strength in a tackle to be in the other roles for mine.
Give him half a year outta footy and people are carrying on like he placed in the b&f or something.
Couldn't be further from the truth. Everyone knew he'd be a big loss coming into the season and our lack of counter attack through intercept marking has reaffirmed that view.I seem to recall him getting tossed aside by gary rohan
I'd rather see ridley and or francis in that role for the future. Gleeson is too small to be the 3rd tall and doesn't have enough toe or strength in a tackle to be in the other roles for mine.
Give him half a year outta footy and people are carrying on like he placed in the b&f or something.
Gleeson is Gleeson. Not necessarily the B&F but he is a valuable member of our team, and we most definitely miss him, with no clear replacement ready in the wings at the time of his injury. Without his intercept marking, Hooker is now playing defence. Tell me that didn't upset the structure and performance of the entire team.I seem to recall him getting tossed aside by gary rohan
I'd rather see ridley and or francis in that role for the future. Gleeson is too small to be the 3rd tall and doesn't have enough toe or strength in a tackle to be in the other roles for mine.
Give him half a year outta footy and people are carrying on like he placed in the b&f or something.
Gleeson is Gleeson. Not necessarily the B&F but he is a valuable member of our team, and we most definitely miss him, with no clear replacement ready in the wings at the time of his injury. Without his intercept marking, Hooker is now playing defence. Tell me that didn't upset the structure and performance of the entire team.
Ridley is young, inexperienced, and 1cm taller and 2kg lighter than Gleeson. Francis has been out of training so hasn't really been an option up until this point. If he wants Gleeson's spot he'll have to build his tank, seize an opportunity and play like he's on fire. If all three are fit and firing, and competing for a spot, may the best man win. But I'm not gonna write off Gleeson in the face of two virtually untried kids.
Which, btw, I have to wonder if the 'absence makes the heart grow fonder' stuff apples to Francis moreso than Gleeson. He's played 3 games at AFL level and you've already got him ahead of Gleeson?
Gleeson is Gleeson. Not necessarily the B&F but he is a valuable member of our team, and we most definitely miss him, with no clear replacement ready in the wings at the time of his injury. Without his intercept marking, Hooker is now playing defence. Tell me that didn't upset the structure and performance of the entire team.
Ridley is young, inexperienced, and 1cm taller and 2kg lighter than Gleeson. Francis has been out of training so hasn't really been an option up until this point. If he wants Gleeson's spot he'll have to build his tank, seize an opportunity and play like he's on fire. If all three are fit and firing, and competing for a spot, may the best man win. But I'm not gonna write off Gleeson in the face of two virtually untried kids.
Which, btw, I have to wonder if the 'absence makes the heart grow fonder' stuff apples to Francis moreso than Gleeson. He's played 3 games at AFL level and you've already got him ahead of Gleeson?
I agree. But he is 192/84 vs Gleeson's 191/86, according to the published stats. As with all published height/weight stats, there is always room for the numbers to be fudged (certainly Ambrose and Stewart have numbers that vary wildly by up to 5cm each year, and Hurley being 193 also amazes me).I have a great deal of trouble believing that Ridley is only 1cm taller than Gleeson. He seems a lot taller.
Yep. Gleeson is 7 years in and Ridley 2 without being fit for any pre seasons. Gleeson is what he is and gets the most out of himself, but the carry on is a bit absurd. Many oppo fans wouldn't even know who he is.I agree. But he is 192/84 vs Gleeson's 191/86, according to the published stats. As with all published height/weight stats, there is always room for the numbers to be fudged (certainly Ambrose and Stewart have numbers that vary wildly by up to 5cm each year, and Hurley being 193 also amazes me).
Gleeson was best 22 at the start of the year. Ridley has played a handful of games since his debut, and lacks experience. Any comparison between the two, particularly anyone making ambitious claims that the youngster is 100% ahead of the established player, at this point is equally absurd. Saying he might grow bigger and might become better is a whole lot of maybe to be hanging your hat on... he might also have a career ending injury, or get too big and become slow. Until he establishes himself as an actual better player, and is competing for and claiming a spot ahead of a fit Gleeson, it's all just nonsense.Yep. Gleeson is 7 years in and Ridley 2 without being fit for any pre seasons. Gleeson is what he is and gets the most out of himself, but the carry on is a bit absurd. Many oppo fans wouldn't even know who he is.
Well considering the team fell into a hole the minute he left maybe that's whyGetting better with every game he doesn't play.
Yep. Gleeson is 7 years in and Ridley 2 without being fit for any pre seasons. Gleeson is what he is and gets the most out of himself, but the carry on is a bit absurd. Many oppo fans wouldn't even know who he is.
Must be the reason then.Well considering the team fell into a hole the minute he left maybe that's why
I'm sorry... what?Gleeson was best 22 at the start of the year. Ridley has played a handful of games since his debut, and lacks experience. Any comparison between the two, particularly anyone making ambitious claims that the youngster is 100% ahead of the established player, at this point is equally absurd.
That's probably because they've heard of merrett and fantasia. For a side that hasn't won a final in how long we sure have a lot of unquestionably fantastic players.Saying he might grow bigger and might become better is a whole lot of maybe to be hanging your hat on... he might also have a career ending injury, or get too big and become slow. Until he establishes himself as an actual better player, and is competing for and claiming a spot ahead of a fit Gleeson, it's all just nonsense.
And to be honest, opposition posters call Merrett and Fantasia spuds, so I couldn't care less what they think they know.
General gist of this and every other player thread for the last month. Perhaps with a dash of hyperbole on my part, but I won't apologise for that.I'm sorry... what?
So... if they call Gleeson a spud that means he's made it as a player? I'm not sure I follow.That's probably because they've heard of merrett and fantasia. For a side that hasn't won a final in how long we sure have a lot of unquestionably fantastic players.
Agree with this. I would have thought there's no upper limit on the number of tall, athletic, marking players with good foot skills in a team.Personally think we should be able to fit all 3 into our defence .
FB: Saad - Ambrose - Gleeson
HB: Francis - Hurley - Mckenna Bench: Ridley
Hooker goes back to beung a forward.
Still burns.I seem to recall him getting tossed aside by gary rohan
Thing is i just don't think he has the body type to match his skillset. He was beaten by a bigger opponent and that's the clue.Yodell, your argument has no credibility when you cite one example where he was outmarked by someone who is bigger and he was hopelessly caught out of position by how quickly the whole play unfolded anyway, while giving no mention at all to all of the good football he did play.
Tries to break too many tackles and always gets caught.I like Marty and his intercept marking became a real asset but his disposal has his spot under the hammer for mine. I don't think he is reliable enough by foot yet to be a lock in a contending team.
So much this. I'm reading these insane comments thinking this has to be a pisstake. Apart from the last half of H&A, when he was consistently very good, in a miserable final, he was pretty much the only player who could hold his head high.Given how unbelievably well he played towards the end of last year I can understand why some supporters don't want him back in.
We're all sadomasochists now