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Conspiracy Theory 9/11 - Part 2

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Sydney Bloods said:
When the same tired bullshit is dragged out time and time again people tend to just give up.
back in the first thread the free fall speed crap was exposed as bullshit, yet here it was trotted out again just a few days ago.
none of the towers fell at free speed.

You don't understand the term free fall, you don't understand the physics involved and yet after being schooled time and time again, you still repeat the same lies. there's some genuine questions to be asked regarding 9/11 problem is they get muzzled over the symphony of youtube "experts" and crazy nutters like alex jones.

Perhaps if the truther movement was mature enough to admit they've made mistakes and do away with patently false allegations then maybe there would be room for actual dialogue.

i mean if you can't even be man enough to admit we don't know how long exactly the buildings fell and we're all working on best estimates based on physics. all of which rule out the very possibility of free fall speed being a factor. What possible hope can there be of a constructive conversation?

sad RIOLIUSTAR hasn't realised he's talking to people willing to repeatedly resort to what is now clearly exposed as bullshit.
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Oh I have friend, I just enjoy the process and don't get too worked up by it that's all.

Good post though :)
 
Sydney Bloods said:
When the same tired bullshit is dragged out time and time again people tend to just give up.
back in the first thread the free fall speed crap was exposed as bullshit, yet here it was trotted out again just a few days ago.
none of the towers fell at free speed.

You don't understand the term free fall, you don't understand the physics involved and yet after being schooled time and time again, you still repeat the same lies. there's some genuine questions to be asked regarding 9/11 problem is they get muzzled over the symphony of youtube "experts" and crazy nutters like alex jones.

Perhaps if the truther movement was mature enough to admit they've made mistakes and do away with patently false allegations then maybe there would be room for actual dialogue.

i mean if you can't even be man enough to admit we don't know how long exactly the buildings fell and we're all working on best estimates based on physics. all of which rule out the very possibility of free fall speed being a factor. What possible hope can there be of a constructive conversation?

sad RIOLIUSTAR hasn't realised he's talking to people willing to repeatedly resort to what is now clearly exposed as bullshit.
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Actually, WTC 7 did fall at free-fall for 2.25 seconds, this is something that NIST actually admitted.
 
Thrawn said:
Actually, WTC 7 did fall at free-fall for 2.25 seconds, this is something that NIST actually admitted.
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But the entire building did not, and as a result it is disingenuous and incorrect to then state that "Building 7 fell at free fall".

And while we are on this topic, why dont people count the collapse of the Penthouse (which occurred 5 or so seconds before the start of the collapse of the rest of the building) as the "beginning" of the buildings collapse?
 
BustedWing said:
But the entire building did not, and as a result it is disingenuous and incorrect to then state that "Building 7 fell at free fall"
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It's not incorrect. The building fell at free-fall for 2.25 seconds.

Does that usually happen in collapses that are not induced by some sort of explosive?
 

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Thrawn said:
It's not incorrect. The building fell at free-fall for 2.25 seconds.

Does that usually happen in collapses that are not induced by some sort of explosive?
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C'mon mate - you know full well that when someone states "a building fell at free fall" they imply that it fell from top to bottom. In full. They do not mean, and certainly do not make clear, that "the building only fell at free fall for part of its collapse, then was partially arrested by the remaining structure".

Again I ask, why not count the start of collapse at the point the Penthouse collapsed?

You question about "is this normal for a building to have partial free fall"...I dont know about whether its common place, or "normal" as you put it, but there is an explanation as to why, and it has to do with the internal sections of the building collapsing before the external facade. I assume you have seen this explanation, and have rejected it. Am I wrong?
 
Buildings dont fall at near free fall speed. Not directly into their own footprint. Theyd crumble apart, with the top part or half falling over and the rest of the building, especially its central steel columns, still upright and firmly embedded.

Nor do buildings disintegrate entirely into dust (wtc1/2)
 
GG said:
Buildings dont fall at near free fall speed. Not directly into their own footprint. Theyd crumble apart, with the top part or half falling over and the rest of the building, especially its central steel columns, still upright and firmly embedded.

Nor do buildings disintegrate entirely into dust (wtc1/2)
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Lets keep on point shall we GG? We are talking about WTC 7. We can absolutely have conversations about all the other points that you guys find suspicious about 9/11, but one at a time. Lets not jump around.

Back to WTC7 and its "free fall" please.
 
Owner Larry Goldstein admitted he 'pulled it'.
Plus underneath WT7 contained all the secret FBI files so how converted for them to be destroyed!

I still can't believe people defend WT7 wasn't a demo job, ask any demo expert & they'll tell you it was demo'd.
A few floors of office fires doesn't cause a building to collapse at free fall on its own footsteps.
As I keep saying only two people believe 9/11 wasn't an inside job,
A Shill or a Dill.
 
ablett said:
Owner Larry Goldstein admitted he 'pulled it'.
Plus underneath WT7 contained all the secret FBI files so how converted for them to be destroyed!

I still can't believe people defend WT7 wasn't a demo job, ask any demo expert & they'll tell you it was demo'd.
A few floors of office fires doesn't cause a building to collapse at free fall on its own footsteps.
As I keep saying only two people believe 9/11 wasn't an inside job,
A Shill or a Dill.
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Is this even english??
 
ablett said:
Owner Larry Goldstein admitted he 'pulled it'.
Plus underneath WT7 contained all the secret FBI files so how converted for them to be destroyed!

I still can't believe people defend WT7 wasn't a demo job, ask any demo expert & they'll tell you it was demo'd.
A few floors of office fires doesn't cause a building to collapse at free fall on its own footsteps.
As I keep saying only two people believe 9/11 wasn't an inside job,
A Shill or a Dill.
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No Larry didnt admit he "Pulled it". This has been debunked about a million times. Stop parroting this garbage.

Secret FBI files at WTC 7 hey...why would demolishing the building be better than just, I dont know...shredding them? Or hey, just NOT storing them there?

Any Demo expert will say it was a controlled demolition?? I call epic bullshit on this. You might find one or two misinformed ones, like you would with any industry on any topic, but the vast vast vast majority have no issues with the official story. And while we are on the topic of demolition experts, you do realize they disagree with the assertion that the term "pull it" is a common phrase for demolition don't you??

Free fall into its own "footsteps", as you put it. Again....freefall...for how long? Why not count the start of the collapse when the penthouse started collapsing? Why is the 2.5 sec of freefall even relevant?
 
BustedWing said:
No Larry didnt admit he "Pulled it". This has been debunked about a million times. Stop parroting this garbage.

Secret FBI files at WTC 7 hey...why would demolishing the building be better than just, I dont know...shredding them? Or hey, just NOT storing them there?

Any Demo expert will say it was a controlled demolition?? I call epic bullshit on this. You might find one or two misinformed ones, like you would with any industry on any topic, but the vast vast vast majority have no issues with the official story. And while we are on the topic of demolition experts, you do realize they disagree with the assertion that the term "pull it" is a common phrase for demolition don't you??

Free fall into its own "footsteps", as you put it. Again....freefall...for how long? Why not count the start of the collapse when the penthouse started collapsing? Why is the 2.5 sec of freefall even relevant?
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Keep fighting the unwinnable battle. WTC7 must of been held up by planks of wood according you and your mates bs assertions!
 

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If we're getting into professions and whether it gives people more weight in their comments......in all honesty I worked in the intelligence industry for many years, and can say with authority in the subject that 9/11 has all the hallmarks of a false flag operation.
 

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GG said:
If we're getting into professions and whether it gives people more weight in their comments......in all honesty I worked in the intelligence industry for many years, and can say with authority in the subject that 9/11 has all the hallmarks of a false flag operation.
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Assuming you're telling the truth that background would help give credence to your opinion. If it was your dad or brothers I don't think it would help personally.
 
the_interloper said:
Assuming you're telling the truth that background would help give credence to your opinion. If it was your dad or brothers I don't think it would help personally.
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But a close relative in engineering can pass along second hand opinion and details to a person
 
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