Conspiracy Theory 9/11 - Part 2

[Glacier]

Hey Kellythatsit
Thanks for the wishes on the hawks mate
I managed to scrounge a ticket and it was a fantastic day ( and night and day...)
Getting back to those articles, I've always found it intriguing that snippets of these types appeared and are quite easily found in the mainstream media but just seemed to disappear as soon as they appeared
For instance, if a news article said that reports of other weapons were found on planes that had never left the ground that day due to the fly ban, wouldn't you think the average reader or investigator would follow up on these potentially very important finds ?
But in a way it almost seems that these snippets may have just seemed a little too hot , and therefore someone made or had a decision made for them to just leave it alone
That's the take I feel anyway, and I'm not saying I'm correct about it or anything either
Just my gut view
Another example of this is reports about a certain Nabil al- Marabh who himself had long standing ties with hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almidhar, along with another man, Midhar Abdullah

Both Abdullah and al- Marabh were the subject of intense investigations by the FBI prior to sep 11 and also boasted if the attacks whilst held in custody afterwards, yet both were deported just before the 9/11 commission report was made public, never to be questioned again
Again, these stories appeared in Newsweek and Assiciated press but seemed to just disappear from the public eye afterwards
Quite baffling really

 

[Glacier]

Just also, I completely get your point about whether the articles may have been gossip or snippets if misinformation etc, this also is very much possible
However, concerning weapons found on other planes that day , we are talking specific planes and not just one or two , but many different planes

 

[Crows_United_FC]

in regards to many believe there was a 'ghost plane' involved, it's not the case on 9/11. I do believe that the US government has a high powered projectors that could beam objects from KM away but not on 9/11!

I think a lot of people are unaware how technologically advance the US government/military really are!

 

[Damp Squarie]

But how would you know?

I can only go be precedents (Multi storied steel framed building collapsing in free fall neatly into its own footprint because of fire)- there isn't any

 

[Sydney Bloods]

I can only go be precedents (Multi storied steel framed building collapsing in free fall neatly into its own footprint because of fire)- there isn't any

In fairness I'm pretty sure several tons of steal slamming into the building at 600Kph may have been a contributing factor.

 

[Kellythatsit]

I can only go be precedents (Multi storied steel framed building collapsing in free fall neatly into its own footprint because of fire)- there isn't any

Not what happened but thanks for playing


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[Crows_United_FC]

Solid video evidence showing that there wasn't a plane that hit the pentagon! The US government didn't want anyone to see this so they confiscated the footage. There was a lawsuit they lost and the video was released to the public. If this isn't solid proof that 9/11 was an inside job, then I don't know what is!!

 

[Crows_United_FC]

a BBC reporter reporting the collapse of WTC 7 even though it's untouched right behind her!!

 

[Crows_United_FC]

Many people who say "What motive would the US government have to kill their own citizens"? 2 word, False Flag!! False flag is when a government/organisation commit a crime and blame it on other county just to invade that country. In this case they blamed it on the arabs just to invade the middle east and take control of the oil. Why exactly did USA invade Iraq??? There was no reason to!

So let's just pretend that 9/11 was plotted by the Arabs. The US government are taking action against terrorists for killing innocent people, yet their army is over in the middle east killing even more innocent people. I'm ashamed that we joined the US Army on the 'War against terror' bullshit. Let the British kiss their ass. Hopeful our troops are pulled out of Afghanistan soon and we should be worrying about our own problems!!

 

[Kellythatsit]

Many people who say "What motive would the US government have to kill their own citizens"? 2 word, False Flag!! False flag is when a government/organisation commit a crime and blame it on other county just to invade that country. In this case they blamed it on the arabs just to invade the middle east and take control of the oil. Why exactly did USA invade Iraq??? There was no reason to!

So let's just pretend that 9/11 was plotted by the Arabs. The US government are taking action against terrorists for killing innocent people, yet their army is over in the middle east killing even more innocent people. I'm ashamed that we joined the US Army on the 'War against terror' bullshit. Let the British kiss their ass. Hopeful our troops are pulled out of Afghanistan soon and we should be worrying about our own problems!!

Now don't take this as a defence of the Iraq war, because it's not - but wouldn't it have been far wiser to actually blame it on the nationals from the country they were actually wanting to go to war with?

Or are we to believe that the people that cooked this whole thing up, thinking hundreds of moves ahead, paying off or threatening thousands of individuals sufficiently to ensure no leaks or death bed confessions, prepared to sacrifice 3K of its own citizens ... Basically masterminds beyond even comic book villain proportions. They do all this then at the last hurdle, at the final payoff, with the goal in sight, these seemingly omniscient plotters frame the wrong people from the wrong country.

Is that what you are saying?


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[Glacier]

Another snippet
The Chicago Board Options Exchange sees suspicious trading on Merrill Lynch and Morgin Stanley, two of the largest WTC tenants. In the first week of Sep, an average of 27 put option contracts in its shares are bought each day, this rises to 2157 for the three days before the attacks. Merrill lynch see 12215 put options bought from Sep 7-10, up from an average of 252 per day
Dylan Ratigan of Bloomberg Business News after 9/11 says " this would be one of the most extraordinary coincidences in history, if it was actually a coincidence "
Reported in the Independant 14/10/01 and Abc news 20/9/01

Insider knowledge
Absolutely
So who claimed on these transactions?
Who made millions?

Also, I'm not sure who it was who asked earlier about the American poli who received a warning beforehand not to travel
This was San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown who was quoted as saying he recieved a warning from " my security people from the airport "
Also, I don't know how widely known this is but in the hours before and during the attacks more than $100 million in credit card transactions are rushed through computers in the WTC
From Reuters on 19/12/01
" there is no doubt some people had advance knowledge of the approximate times of the plane crashes in order to move out amounts exceeding $100 million. They thought that the records of their transactions could not be traced after the hard drives were destroyed"

So, who profited?

 

[Crows_United_FC]

I did mention that I thought that something physical hit the towers but after watching the whole video I think it is probable (based on the evidence) that the planes could be CGI. The only problem is that a plane is shown in the amateur videos!!

Edit: I didn't watch the whole video before posting it but that last part about CGI is interesting. The guys reaction after the plane hit rather than reacting before! Interesting indeed!

 

[Crows_United_FC]

The most solid proof that 9/11 was an inside Job is WTC 7!
The Government dug their own grave with WTC 7!
Don't you just love the US government's excuse for the collapse of WTC 7. "WTC 7 collapsed due to fire from the surrounding area." Ok, let's just say it collapseed due to the surrounding fire (Which is bullshit), Why didn't any other building around the WTC's collapse?? Compare the collapse of WTC 7 to hundreds of building implosions (Or demolition, whatever you want to call it) and you get the exact same image!

 

[Crows_United_FC]

I know this could be a bit far fetched but I'll post it anyways since it's a conspiracy theory and could be worth mentioning.

Anyways there's a theory that there was a plane that got diverted to another airport on 9/11 and all the passengers on that plane were murder and was not reported by the media or any highly powered officials!

^^^^Something similar to this anyway! Anyone else heard about this??

Just to add to this:
The Plane that got diverted to another airport was the plane that 'supposedly crashed in Pennsylvania!
The scene that was described as a 'plane crash' was not a plane crash at all. No victims found. This was just a decoy. The people aboard this flight did die but not the way it was shown on TV or through official reports.

 

[Glacier]

Just to add to this:
The Plane that got diverted to another airport was the plane that 'supposedly crashed in Pittsburgh!
The scene that was described as a 'plane crash' was not a plane crash at all. No victims found. This was just a decoy. The people aboard this flight did die but not the way it was shown on TV or through official reports.

I've heard this story
We are talking flight 77, are we not ?

 

[Crows_United_FC]

I've heard this story
We are talking flight 77, are we not ?

Woops my mistake I meant to say Pennsylvania instead of Pittsburgh (Don't know why I wrote Pittsburgh)
I'm fairly sure that the plane that 'crashed' in Pennsylvania was Flight 93!

 

[Glacier]

Woops my mistake I meant to say Pennsylvania instead of Pittsburgh (Don't know why I wrote Pittsburgh)
I'm fairly sure that the plane that 'crashed' in Pennsylvania was Flight 93!

Yes, 93 crashed in Pennsylvania

 

[Crows_United_FC]

Also There was no plane debris (of Flight 93) found at the 'crash' in Pennsylvania which further proves the theory that the plane was diverted to another airport and all the passengers were murdered!

 

[Crows_United_FC]

Here's a good video that I found. This video proves that the 'crash' hole was there in 1994!


This is probably the best 9/11 conspiracy video that I've found in terms of evidence!

 

[Glacier]

Also There was no plane debris (of Flight 93) found at the 'crash' in Pennsylvania which further proves the theory that the plane was diverted to another airport and all the passengers were murdered!

Have to disagree
Wreckage from 93 was scattered over a great distance and several ground witnesses swore that the plane was in fact shot down
As reported in aviation week and technology on 3/6/02 and cape cod times on 21/8/02
F15 pilot Major Daniel Nash returned to base at 2 pm that day after patrolling the skies over NYC and is told " a military f 16 had shot down the fourth airliner in Pennsylvania "

 

[Damp Squarie]

Not what happened but thanks for playing


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Off course it wasnt...THIS is what happened


Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah.

Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes…and hangover or not, they manage to give the world’s most sophisticated air defence system the slip.

Un-phased by leaving their “How to Fly a Passenger Jet” guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely.

Our masterminds even manage to overpower the odd law of physics or two and the world watches in awe as steel-framed buildings fall symmetrically – through their own mass – at free-fall speed, for the first time in history.

Despite all their dastardly cunning, they stupidly give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the fireball undamaged and fall to the ground only to be discovered by the incredible crime-fighting sleuths at the FBI.

Meanwhile down in Washington…Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked 2-man Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a Boeing.

Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little.

Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the world’s most heavily defended building all without a single shot being fired or ruining the nicely mowed lawn and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video.

Later, in the skies above Pennsylvania…So desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that otherwise would not be possible until several years later.

And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, it crashes into a Shankesville field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants except for the standard issue Muslim terrorists bandana.

Further south in Florida, President Bush, the brave Commander-in-Chief continues to read “My Pet Goat” to a class full of primary school children, shrugging off the obvious possibility that his life could be in imminent danger.

In New York…Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously.

While back in Washington, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz shake their heads in disbelief at their own luck in getting the ‘New Pearl Harbour’ catalysing event they so desired to pursue their agenda of world domination.

And finally, not to be disturbed too much by reports of their own deaths, at least 11 of our 19 suicide hijackers turn up alive and kicking in lame stream media reports.

 

[Crows_United_FC]

Have to disagree
Wreckage from 93 was scattered over a great distance and several ground witnesses swore that the plane was in fact shot down
As reported in aviation week and technology on 3/6/02 and cape cod times on 21/8/02
F15 pilot Major Daniel Nash returned to base at 2 pm that day after patrolling the skies over NYC and is told " a military f 16 had shot down the fourth airliner in Pennsylvania "

Though there was no wreckage at the actual crash site. Just a big hole!

 

[Glacier]

Though there was no wreckage at the actual crash site. Just a big hole!

Wouldn't say no wreckage
Just no wreckage that should have been there
No engines, no wings.......no bodies !!

 

[Crows_United_FC]

Wouldn't say no wreckage
Just no wreckage that should have been there
No engines, no wings.......no bodies !!

Yep definitely nothing indicating that flight 93 crash there. Who knows if the US government planted things there to make it seem that there was a plane crash there. Also that crater (I'll call it a crater) was there in 1994 as show in the video that I posted at the top of this page.

 

[Crows_United_FC]

The deeper and deeper I dig into 9/11 videos the more interesting stuff I find.
At first I stated that I didn't believe in the 'Ghost Plane' theory, but I watched this video that brings up some interesting points.
The way the plane enters the WTC buildings is not normal. it went straight through the buildings rather than breaking up upon impact. If I sound confusing just take a look at this video: