Autopsy 9.17 19 point win against Port.

[Ticky009]

 

[Donza]

I got us to 5th or 6th but we need to be knocking off the dogs, dockers. lions away, gws away, Geelong etc

So reality is we probably can just shape the 8, I’d rather us push for the noble high finish than fall down the ladder though

This time last year it was a swans blues GF and the lions were meh.
Essendon were flying.

 

[The King!]

This time last year it was a swans blues GF and the lions were meh.
Essendon were flying.
View attachment 2349191

Yes , but some teams have a piss easy run home

But hopefully we just keep winning and who knows.

 

[Dangas]

Grundy, Isaac and Gus were all great in the mids. Rowie too but tackles don't get you a B&F vote. McCartin gave Georgiadis a bath, 7 disposals 1.3. Roberts was great when he was playing the mid role. Good on a wing but not great. Mills was super Ted. I loved his game he was directing traffic all around the ground. A special mention to Wil, stood up when most didn't. Only player not to kick a point. I also would like to say that Aaron Francis put his body on the line, nearly took mark of the year and was not paid, and brought the ball to ground, again and again. Those acts will not get much credit.

Run Down of players;

Amartey; Had a great game except he could,t find the middle of the two big white ones. Now Joel, you have to kick the ball in between the two big white ones. Not the little white one and the big white one. Try again

Bice; Good option as sub. I thought one of the comeback kids would be subbed out. But they went for Francis instead. Probably a mistake as it turns out. Port got a run on in the last and Gulden and Papley were cooked. Bice was good.

Blakey; Was very good. His running set up so many forward entries. But he got lost in the defensive mire quite a few times too. This is not his fault it is the coaches fault for not playing him up the ground.

Campbell; A really good game. Some of his defensoive efforts were so strong and rugged. His tackling pressure and run down pressure were super. He was very good at anticipating whre the Port players would run.

Cunningham; Harry was, well, Harry. He was high Pressure Harry. Good luck getting out of his grasp if he gets hold of you

Francis; May not have had too many disposals but he did the hard things well. He competed and brought the ball to ground.

Grundy; Was superb. I can't believe he ran away from Butters. Pushed off him and ran away. WOW. He did the hard things, the easy things all well. His rucking was super and he flogged their two rucks, he then became an extra mid. People tend to forget, when he was AA he was the most mobile ruck in the AFL.

Gulden; A good return. He disposal was the thing. He went missing in the second, 2 disposals. But came back again in the third. He hit up so meany leads, at one stage he didn't have a handball.

Hayward; Due to his accuracy, he was the forward of the night. He was super competitive too.

Heeney; What can I say. An absolute champion. Best player in the AFL. Don't give a a @@@@ about Daicos. Daicos does not take hangers or mark the ball like this guy. He is the most complete footballer in the AFL.

Jordan; Did some good things and kept their mids quiet until the last quarter. Ran out of puff I think. Certainly cleaned up in the clinches.

McCartin; Tommy was good. Super good. His marking and spoiling were super. He kept Georgiadis to 1.3 and negated their forwards with the other known outlaws who stole ball again and again. Harry, Melly, Wicksie, Ramps, Mills & Blakey. They work so well together and this guy is the pin that keeps the threads together.

Mellican; Another fine game from this guy. He just gets the job done, no fuss, no ado. Goes about his business efficiently. He was on the resting rucks and burned them.

Mills; What A SUPER GAME! He is well and truly the leader the club says he is. Heens keeps talking about his ability to see the game and identify the problems or options. He did exactly that. He led by example and directed the game. He pointed out options when players were taking too long. He quickly identified space and turned that into a marking opportunity fir his forwards and mids. A truly top captain's game

Papley; A good return. Gave us all a fright when he got that corkie. But could have kicked better vfor goal, same as Joel just not as much opportunity. Goal kicking practice for these forwards I think.

Rampe; Getting to the end I think. Defended well. But his disposal is like LLoyd's, wait forever and then bomb long. It's as though he doesn't have the confidence to pass the ball. He waits an eternity to kick it. If I was an umpire I would have been saying play on several times when he had the ball. A much loved character and bloke but time waits for no man and it is catching up with Sir Dane.

Roberts; Was really good. I liked his role better than at HB. The wing and Mids suits him better. He used his brawn to muscle opponents out of the play then handballed or kicked to advantage. Liked his game.

Rowbottom; Had another ho hum game. He has had less than 20 disposals or less in the last 6 games. Port 14, Tigers 15, Crows 20, Dees 12, Baggers 19, Bombers 21, GWS 14, Suns 20, Port 23, Pies 22, North 20, Dockers 22, Lions 11, Hawks 16. These figures show a mixed season. He is still a tackling machine but sometimes his output is not good enough for a mid. I love this bloke but he has two flaws he has to fix. The random kick in haste our of a pack or in the backs. The panic kick. Or the kick from a stoppage with no plan. Just kick the @@@@ out of the thing in hope a forward might just get onto it. The second is in most matches this year he has not gotten enough disposals to warrant him being in the mids. This is worrying as he is a heart and soul player. I want him to succeed. But look at what Gus has been able to do recently and he is going past Rowie at a rate of knots. I think he might be carrying some bruises. Maybe time to give him a rest and let him recover.

Sheldrick; Boy was he good in the clinches. He doesn't get 30 disposals but he does extract so others can get 30. He gets the ball out no matter what, no manner where. Tap ons, shove it out, handball, kick, knock ons. He might be small but he is a brute in there. A good game.

Warner; Not one of his best but had Willem Drew up his kyber most of the night. Drew has done the job on nearly every top mid this season. Still managed to get 17, the average on Drew is 13.

Wicks; Took on Rioli and did it well. Rioli kicked 1.1 with 7 disposals, most of which he got up the ground. Great negating game from Wicksy.

Great insight to the game mate, being there live I can see all those points to the value that they add.

The Rowy point is interesting too, he is indeed our best tackler, but is that enough given his possession/ball-use count? Good question.

 

[bedford]

Grundy, Isaac and Gus were all great in the mids. Rowie too but tackles don't get you a B&F vote. McCartin gave Georgiadis a bath, 7 disposals 1.3. Roberts was great when he was playing the mid role. Good on a wing but not great. Mills was super Ted. I loved his game he was directing traffic all around the ground. A special mention to Wil, stood up when most didn't. Only player not to kick a point. I also would like to say that Aaron Francis put his body on the line, nearly took mark of the year and was not paid, and brought the ball to ground, again and again. Those acts will not get much credit.

Run Down of players;

Amartey; Had a great game except he could,t find the middle of the two big white ones. Now Joel, you have to kick the ball in between the two big white ones. Not the little white one and the big white one. Try again

Bice; Good option as sub. I thought one of the comeback kids would be subbed out. But they went for Francis instead. Probably a mistake as it turns out. Port got a run on in the last and Gulden and Papley were cooked. Bice was good.

Blakey; Was very good. His running set up so many forward entries. But he got lost in the defensive mire quite a few times too. This is not his fault it is the coaches fault for not playing him up the ground.

Campbell; A really good game. Some of his defensoive efforts were so strong and rugged. His tackling pressure and run down pressure were super. He was very good at anticipating whre the Port players would run.

Cunningham; Harry was, well, Harry. He was high Pressure Harry. Good luck getting out of his grasp if he gets hold of you

Francis; May not have had too many disposals but he did the hard things well. He competed and brought the ball to ground.

Grundy; Was superb. I can't believe he ran away from Butters. Pushed off him and ran away. WOW. He did the hard things, the easy things all well. His rucking was super and he flogged their two rucks, he then became an extra mid. People tend to forget, when he was AA he was the most mobile ruck in the AFL.

Gulden; A good return. He disposal was the thing. He went missing in the second, 2 disposals. But came back again in the third. He hit up so meany leads, at one stage he didn't have a handball.

Hayward; Due to his accuracy, he was the forward of the night. He was super competitive too.

Heeney; What can I say. An absolute champion. Best player in the AFL. Don't give a a @@@@ about Daicos. Daicos does not take hangers or mark the ball like this guy. He is the most complete footballer in the AFL.

Jordan; Did some good things and kept their mids quiet until the last quarter. Ran out of puff I think. Certainly cleaned up in the clinches.

McCartin; Tommy was good. Super good. His marking and spoiling were super. He kept Georgiadis to 1.3 and negated their forwards with the other known outlaws who stole ball again and again. Harry, Melly, Wicksie, Ramps, Mills & Blakey. They work so well together and this guy is the pin that keeps the threads together.

Mellican; Another fine game from this guy. He just gets the job done, no fuss, no ado. Goes about his business efficiently. He was on the resting rucks and burned them.

Mills; What A SUPER GAME! He is well and truly the leader the club says he is. Heens keeps talking about his ability to see the game and identify the problems or options. He did exactly that. He led by example and directed the game. He pointed out options when players were taking too long. He quickly identified space and turned that into a marking opportunity fir his forwards and mids. A truly top captain's game

Papley; A good return. Gave us all a fright when he got that corkie. But could have kicked better vfor goal, same as Joel just not as much opportunity. Goal kicking practice for these forwards I think.

Rampe; Getting to the end I think. Defended well. But his disposal is like LLoyd's, wait forever and then bomb long. It's as though he doesn't have the confidence to pass the ball. He waits an eternity to kick it. If I was an umpire I would have been saying play on several times when he had the ball. A much loved character and bloke but time waits for no man and it is catching up with Sir Dane.

Roberts; Was really good. I liked his role better than at HB. The wing and Mids suits him better. He used his brawn to muscle opponents out of the play then handballed or kicked to advantage. Liked his game.

Rowbottom; Had another ho hum game. He has had less than 20 disposals or less in the last 6 games. Port 14, Tigers 15, Crows 20, Dees 12, Baggers 19, Bombers 21, GWS 14, Suns 20, Port 23, Pies 22, North 20, Dockers 22, Lions 11, Hawks 16. These figures show a mixed season. He is still a tackling machine but sometimes his output is not good enough for a mid. I love this bloke but he has two flaws he has to fix. The random kick in haste our of a pack or in the backs. The panic kick. Or the kick from a stoppage with no plan. Just kick the @@@@ out of the thing in hope a forward might just get onto it. The second is in most matches this year he has not gotten enough disposals to warrant him being in the mids. This is worrying as he is a heart and soul player. I want him to succeed. But look at what Gus has been able to do recently and he is going past Rowie at a rate of knots. I think he might be carrying some bruises. Maybe time to give him a rest and let him recover.

Sheldrick; Boy was he good in the clinches. He doesn't get 30 disposals but he does extract so others can get 30. He gets the ball out no matter what, no manner where. Tap ons, shove it out, handball, kick, knock ons. He might be small but he is a brute in there. A good game.

Warner; Not one of his best but had Willem Drew up his kyber most of the night. Drew has done the job on nearly every top mid this season. Still managed to get 17, the average on Drew is 13.

Wicks; Took on Rioli and did it well. Rioli kicked 1.1 with 7 disposals, most of which he got up the ground. Great negating game from Wicksy.

Really good well thought out summary

 

[RubbaDuck]

Do the predictions we need a few to drop games to lower teams even if we win them all

Or we need to smash teams

I'm always glad to see us win but Port should have been a smashing and a handy percentage boost. We need to convert our opportunities to goals.

 

[RubbaDuck]

Yeah I had that feeling too, till I did the ladder predictor......
Even if we win every game (and that's a BIG if), our % is going to kill our chances. We'd need an awful lot of crazy results to get there.

CRAZY is my middle name

 

[RubbaDuck]

OK, it's not Crazy.

There is one more reason to be optimistic. At this time of year the health of a list is crucial, and even more so into finals.

Without wanting to tempt the ACL fairies (blessed be their divine cruelty), the release of Robbie Fox

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Robbie Fox

Age

33

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.6

5star

MG

151.3

2star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.8

4star

MG

151.3

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

6.8

5star

M

0.4

1star

T

3.6

5star

from concussion protocols means we'll enter this round with the shortest injury list of any team. Only Edwards, Adams and McDonald left.

Having blooded a host of young players we ought to be able to field a near best possible team every week now, while quite a few other teams will be nursing their stars to try to keep them fresh. I hope Cox (and the medical guys) can take advantage of and maintain a surplus of candidates for each position. Pressure for places.

 

[kickthething]

This time last year it was a swans blues GF and the lions were meh.
Essendon were flying.
View attachment 2349191

Lions were only 2 pts out of the 8

 

[kickthething]

OK, it's not Crazy.

There is one more reason to be optimistic. At this time of year the health of a list is crucial, and even more so into finals.

Without wanting to tempt the ACL fairies (blessed be their divine cruelty), the release of Robbie Fox from concussion protocols means we'll enter this round with the shortest injury list of any team. Only Edwards, Adams and McDonald left.

Having blooded a host of young players we ought to be able to field a near best possible team every week now, while quite a few other teams will be nursing their stars to try to keep them fresh. I hope Cox (and the medical guys) can take advantage of and maintain a surplus of candidates for each position. Pressure for places.

Yikes…..don’t say that stuff out loud.

 

[kickthething]

Grundy, Isaac and Gus were all great in the mids. Rowie too but tackles don't get you a B&F vote. McCartin gave Georgiadis a bath, 7 disposals 1.3. Roberts was great when he was playing the mid role. Good on a wing but not great. Mills was super Ted. I loved his game he was directing traffic all around the ground. A special mention to Wil, stood up when most didn't. Only player not to kick a point. I also would like to say that Aaron Francis put his body on the line, nearly took mark of the year and was not paid, and brought the ball to ground, again and again. Those acts will not get much credit.

Run Down of players;

Amartey; Had a great game except he could,t find the middle of the two big white ones. Now Joel, you have to kick the ball in between the two big white ones. Not the little white one and the big white one. Try again

Bice; Good option as sub. I thought one of the comeback kids would be subbed out. But they went for Francis instead. Probably a mistake as it turns out. Port got a run on in the last and Gulden and Papley were cooked. Bice was good.

Blakey; Was very good. His running set up so many forward entries. But he got lost in the defensive mire quite a few times too. This is not his fault it is the coaches fault for not playing him up the ground.

Campbell; A really good game. Some of his defensoive efforts were so strong and rugged. His tackling pressure and run down pressure were super. He was very good at anticipating whre the Port players would run.

Cunningham; Harry was, well, Harry. He was high Pressure Harry. Good luck getting out of his grasp if he gets hold of you

Francis; May not have had too many disposals but he did the hard things well. He competed and brought the ball to ground.

Grundy; Was superb. I can't believe he ran away from Butters. Pushed off him and ran away. WOW. He did the hard things, the easy things all well. His rucking was super and he flogged their two rucks, he then became an extra mid. People tend to forget, when he was AA he was the most mobile ruck in the AFL.

Gulden; A good return. He disposal was the thing. He went missing in the second, 2 disposals. But came back again in the third. He hit up so meany leads, at one stage he didn't have a handball.

Hayward; Due to his accuracy, he was the forward of the night. He was super competitive too.

Heeney; What can I say. An absolute champion. Best player in the AFL. Don't give a a @@@@ about Daicos. Daicos does not take hangers or mark the ball like this guy. He is the most complete footballer in the AFL.

Jordan; Did some good things and kept their mids quiet until the last quarter. Ran out of puff I think. Certainly cleaned up in the clinches.

McCartin; Tommy was good. Super good. His marking and spoiling were super. He kept Georgiadis to 1.3 and negated their forwards with the other known outlaws who stole ball again and again. Harry, Melly, Wicksie, Ramps, Mills & Blakey. They work so well together and this guy is the pin that keeps the threads together.

Mellican; Another fine game from this guy. He just gets the job done, no fuss, no ado. Goes about his business efficiently. He was on the resting rucks and burned them.

Mills; What A SUPER GAME! He is well and truly the leader the club says he is. Heens keeps talking about his ability to see the game and identify the problems or options. He did exactly that. He led by example and directed the game. He pointed out options when players were taking too long. He quickly identified space and turned that into a marking opportunity fir his forwards and mids. A truly top captain's game

Papley; A good return. Gave us all a fright when he got that corkie. But could have kicked better vfor goal, same as Joel just not as much opportunity. Goal kicking practice for these forwards I think.

Rampe; Getting to the end I think. Defended well. But his disposal is like LLoyd's, wait forever and then bomb long. It's as though he doesn't have the confidence to pass the ball. He waits an eternity to kick it. If I was an umpire I would have been saying play on several times when he had the ball. A much loved character and bloke but time waits for no man and it is catching up with Sir Dane.

Roberts; Was really good. I liked his role better than at HB. The wing and Mids suits him better. He used his brawn to muscle opponents out of the play then handballed or kicked to advantage. Liked his game.

Rowbottom; Had another ho hum game. He has had less than 20 disposals or less in the last 6 games. Port 14, Tigers 15, Crows 20, Dees 12, Baggers 19, Bombers 21, GWS 14, Suns 20, Port 23, Pies 22, North 20, Dockers 22, Lions 11, Hawks 16. These figures show a mixed season. He is still a tackling machine but sometimes his output is not good enough for a mid. I love this bloke but he has two flaws he has to fix. The random kick in haste our of a pack or in the backs. The panic kick. Or the kick from a stoppage with no plan. Just kick the @@@@ out of the thing in hope a forward might just get onto it. The second is in most matches this year he has not gotten enough disposals to warrant him being in the mids. This is worrying as he is a heart and soul player. I want him to succeed. But look at what Gus has been able to do recently and he is going past Rowie at a rate of knots. I think he might be carrying some bruises. Maybe time to give him a rest and let him recover.

Sheldrick; Boy was he good in the clinches. He doesn't get 30 disposals but he does extract so others can get 30. He gets the ball out no matter what, no manner where. Tap ons, shove it out, handball, kick, knock ons. He might be small but he is a brute in there. A good game.

Warner; Not one of his best but had Willem Drew up his kyber most of the night. Drew has done the job on nearly every top mid this season. Still managed to get 17, the average on Drew is 13.

Wicks; Took on Rioli and did it well. Rioli kicked 1.1 with 7 disposals, most of which he got up the ground. Great negating game from Wicksy.

Rowbottom interesting comparison, he did go at 100 percent efficiency w 14. Gus went 61 percent at 21….. so disposal effort could be a dead heat really. Rowiecan lift getting his hands on the ball, Gus can lift his tackling….I think their performances are a lot closer than you do and they may just compliment each other w their strengths/ weaknesses

 

[kickthething]

To my eyes we seemed to have a lot more loose players around & ahead of the ball to use by hand, rather than looking up, being swarmed and outnumbered by opposition and having to just bomb it long. Whether that was because Port's pressure was that bad or our work rate to present as an option was better than usual, or a combination of both, I don't know.

Quicker ball movement does that, less hesitant, went with first option more often.

 

[kickthething]

This time last year it was a swans blues GF and the lions were meh.
Essendon were flying.
View attachment 2349191

Offence difference -400 this year…tells the story somewhat. It’s why if we can up scoring in last part of the season there is still faint hope.

 

[bedford]

Offence difference -400 this year…tells the story somewhat. It’s why if we can up scoring in last part of the season there is still faint hope.

What about territory ? is that attack

 

[kickthething]

What about territory ? is that attack

Take a stab!

 

[bedford]

Take a stab!

Used to be a good stab pass , though not in the Skilton class of course

 

[kickthething]

Bit over Jay Clark’s one man campaign to allow N Daicos to play bruise free footy…..others get tagged as well and good players overcome it. Some tactics a bit iffy, umps can pay a free…Plugger knew how to deal with pinching….seriously, tagging is a very good feature of the game and Clark seems to think he is now the voice of the game, can’t see how King and Johnson put up with him on the last quarter….finding him very cringe and self obsessed

 

[bedford]

Bit over Jay Clark’s one man campaign to allow N Daicos to play bruise free footy…..others get tagged as well and good players overcome it. Some tactics a bit iffy, umps can pay a free…Plugger knew how to deal with pinching….seriously, tagging is a very good feature of the game and Clark seems to think he is now the voice of the game, can’t see how King and Johnson put up with him on the last quarter….finding him very cringe and self obsessed

That smirk on his face , just got a head you'd be happy to do a BBBH to

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Bit over Jay Clark’s one man campaign to allow N Daicos to play bruise free footy…..others get tagged as well and good players overcome it. Some tactics a bit iffy, umps can pay a free…Plugger knew how to deal with pinching….seriously, tagging is a very good feature of the game and Clark seems to think he is now the voice of the game, can’t see how King and Johnson put up with him on the last quarter….finding him very cringe and self obsessed

Craig Bolton would of given Daicos nightmares.

Taggers now are timid compared to the mid 2000's

 

[bedford]

Craig Bolton would of given Daicos nightmares.

Taggers now are timid compared to the mid 2000's

Craig Bolton played on bigger players and wasn't a dog like Windhager

 

[strauchanie59]

Craig Bolton would of given Daicos nightmares.

Taggers now are timid compared to the mid 2000's

Imagine Daicos in a four run of games in the mid/late-2000's against Sydney (Kirk), Geelong (Ling), St Kilda (Baker) and Freo (Crowley).

 

[bedford]

Imagine Daicos in a four run of games in the mid/late-2000's against Sydney (Kirk), Geelong (Ling), St Kilda (Baker) and Freo (Crowley).

Kirk and Ling didn't hang on , they were right there , as for the other 2 #####

 

[MF]

I completely forgot about Baker - what a w***er he was.

 

[strauchanie59]

Kirk and Ling didn't hang on , they were right there , as for the other 2 #####

Exactly right, the best (Kirk & Ling) and worst (Baker & Crowley) of taggers in those four players.

 

[bedford]

Who will the rat from St Scum go to , Heens or Chad

 

[strauchanie59]

Who will the rat from St Scum go to , Heens or Chad

Probably Heeney, but then he'll take Windpipe deep forward and kick a couple before Ross Le Boss moves him onto Chad in Q3 when they're already down 60.