AFL Player # 9: Dylan Shiel

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024 2025
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 35, eth-dog

 

[citizen-erased]

Trade

would honestly consider.
Clear the path for merrett, mcgrath, parish, ham, cox, perkins etc to be our onball crew.

Would be a nice addition to a Dees side chasing a flag with a lot of inside grunt already.

 

[DERO]

Shiel is a gun. He is just too injured to prove it. The trade talk is a bit rank.

 

[Lore]

Shiel is a gun. He is just too injured to prove it. The trade talk is a bit rank.

Yeah– I don't think we're in a position to be forcibly trading players who actually want to be here.

 

[Phone]

I think ideally, a mature conversation would be had in which both parties acknowledge he's come here to win to a flag, and it's unlikely to happen anytime soon since the core of the side that may have done that has gone (Daniher, Saad, etc), and therefore moving on probably works for both parties - Shiel moves to a legit contender and we get some more picks to continue rebuilding.

But this is the AFL and we don't have those type of conversations.

 

[Lore]

I think ideally, a mature conversation would be had in which both parties acknowledge he's come here to win to a flag, and it's unlikely to happen anytime soon since the core of the side that may have done that has gone (Daniher, Saad, etc), and therefore moving on probably works for both parties - Shiel moves to a legit contender and we get some more picks to continue rebuilding.

But this is the AFL and we don't have those type of conversations.

I am pretty sure he had a conversation of this type on radio at the end of last year.

 

[RearNaked]

What would he be worth probably not enough to make a trade worth it

 

[Phone]

I mean, having it on the radio doesn't really do much. And given the tyre fire of last off-season, Essendon would have wanted no part in it (same with if Merrett had submitted a request). Obviously Parish's performances may make Essendon more partial to it this off-season (particularly if Merrett were to stay and Shiel was the only way to acquire more picks.)

I wouldn't be doing a Treloar to him, but equally, it works well for both parties imo. But again, respectfully done.

 

[andleanback]

Should not be taking any of parish’s minutes when he comes back.

 

[Blind Turn]

A player with genuine burst-away speed from congestion, that we have been crying out for for years, and is young enough to be a key senior figure if we contend in a few years time... gee the fickleness is beginning to surface around here.

 

[Lore]

I mean, having it on the radio doesn't really do much. And given the tyre fire of last off-season, Essendon would have wanted no part in it (same with if Merrett had submitted a request). Obviously Parish's performances may make Essendon more partial to it this off-season (particularly if Merrett were to stay and Shiel was the only way to acquire more picks.)

I wouldn't be doing a Treloar to him, but equally, it works well for both parties imo. But again, respectfully done.

The point about his radio interviews (and he's done probably two dozen or more in the last few years, weekly in 2019) – he's not someone who wallows in regret. He can be a bit egocentric, but no one could doubt his commitment. He's 110% into everything all the time, and he doesn't look back. He's not hanging around wondering what if he'd gone to Carlton instead, or stayed at GWS for an extra year. Just a very grounded, committed sort of player. So I doubt he's even thinking about a move, he's very secure in the position he's in and focusing on other things.

As for the club's perspective, how many of the below do you think will play more than 10 AFL games for us in 2022?

Cale Hooker - OOC 2021
David Zaharakis - OOC 2021
Michael Hurley - OOC 2022
Andrew Phillips - OOC 2021
Patrick Ambrose - OOC 2021
Dyson Heppell - OOC 2022
Dylan Shiel - OOC 2024
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti - OOC 2022
Devon Smith - OOC 2023
James Stewart - OOC 2022
Jake Stringer - OOC 2021

That's everyone who is 27 or older at Essendon atm... lots of them are out of contract, injury prone, or have lost their spots to kids...

I don't see the club wanting an end of first round draft pick quite that badly. If it were two top 10 picks that would be an entirely different conversation, but no one is offering that so it's also moot.

 

[Megabattimus]

Definitely reckon there's still a place in the team for him when he gets back. Possibly as a burst inside mid whenever Parish or Merrett needs a rest?

 

[yodellinhank]

A player with genuine burst-away speed from congestion, that we have been crying out for for years, and is young enough to be a key senior figure if we contend in a few years time... gee the fickleness is beginning to surface around here.

It's not fickle, I've consistently said get rid of him.

 

[staaation]

we should trade him right now because there is absolutely zero chance Parish will ever get injured or suspended or even need to sit on the bench for a little bit

 

[ant555]

we should trade him right now because there is absolutely zero chance Parish will ever get injured or suspended or even need to sit on the bench for a little bit

And Parish is so good he can play two spots in the midfield.

 

[JayJ20]

Dylan Shiel

9

Dylan Shiel

Age

31

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.6

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

23.4

5star

K

13.6

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.4

4star

CL

6.4

5star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

11.4

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

3.8

5star

is our best clearance player whether you acknowledge it or not. Also one of the best in the competition.

When he comes back, Parish should be taking Merrett's CBAs because he does his best work on the outside.

 

[DERO]

I think ideally, a mature conversation would be had in which both parties acknowledge he's come here to win to a flag, and it's unlikely to happen anytime soon since the core of the side that may have done that has gone (Daniher, Saad, etc), and therefore moving on probably works for both parties - Shiel moves to a legit contender and we get some more picks to continue rebuilding.

But this is the AFL and we don't have those type of conversations.

How long is the rebuild going to take?

 

[ant555]

How long is the rebuild going to take?

How long have you got ?

 

[Mercurial89]

I think a lot of the frustration comes from we got him in to be "the man" or at least the price we paid was such.

But he is perfect if the rest of the midfield comes on and he gets to explode away from contests etc instead of having to wrench the ball out in a contested scenario.
The pick we would get for him in a trade would be what? We still need break away from a stoppage speed in there so you would be hoping for a younger version of Shiel using a higher pick?
Better off keeping him.

 

[Megabattimus]

Realistically I don't even think we even get a first rounder for him, especially after his knee injury.

Just keep him and back the coaches to get the midfield mix right when he gets back.

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[Zach Package]

The entire competition has been a midfield arms race for the last 15 years, we're just starting to hit an adequate midfield spread (with the emphasis on adequate in terms of depth and variety) and his injury is non degenerative and isn't expected to have any lasting effects, especially given the way he prepares.

One step forward, two steps back, the conversation may as well be 'why do we continue to wallow in the middle third of the ladder?'

 

[Zach Package]

Not a required player

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Watching Treloar's game change this season from everything midfielder that regularly burns the footy by foot, to damaging outside user has me imagining a world where we have a system that maximises Shiel's strengths. I gotta tell you it's pretty great.

 

[Call Me Cake]

This man's professionalism is bar none, with possibly Merrett's as a close 2nd.

He'll bounce back harder from injury than anyone else on our list. His professionalism presence is paramount to being a pillar in keeping Merrett on board I think.

 

[VelvetSledge]

Just got engaged! GET THEM KIDS OUT DYL

 

[Hamez]

Just got engaged! GET THEM KIDS OUT DYL

Knee recovery must be going well (I dont know which knee he injured)