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Senior 9. Patrick Cripps

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FlowersByIrene said:
I reckon the ratings really over rate Metres Gained as a metric, so I want Crippa to start bombing it forward more and get some more metres gained haha.
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They need to create another metric to go alongside that: metres secured. The next possession needs to be to the advantage of the team or a team mate for the distance to count.
 
ferrisb said:
They need to include the stat 'poetic blind handballs'.

Would push Patty to the #1 rating for sure. :)
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Or 'blind handballs that make T2B's pants tighten', whatever works.
 

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Just mentioned this in the polls board, and wanted to get your opinions.

I consider myself a glass half full kind of guy. And while losing Cripps all pre season is obviously disappointing. I consider it a blessing in disguise. It means that a fit and ready Murphy and Gibbs will start the year as your prime midfielders, while Cripps gets the opportunity to work on his forward craft and not have to carry the midfield.

I'd even play him 60-70% up forward until he regains full fitness and it wouldn't surprise me if he can genuinely turn into a CHF type with his huge frame. Along with Bont, they both need to work on their contested marking. But if they can perfect that in their game they will become virtually unstoppable. There was only one other player in the history of the game that could do that, and that was Koutafides. And with all respect to Kouta, we've already seen Cripps and Bont to things from the midfield position that the great Kouta didn't even do.

I simply can't wait to our two boys are matching up in finals. It's got the potential to be the matchups that will be remembered in footy folklore.

All the very best to your upcoming season.
You've got some future superstars and a great up and coming coach who is doing everything in the right way.
 
FAT T0NY said:
Just mentioned this in the polls board, and wanted to get your opinions.

I consider myself a glass half full kind of guy. And while losing Cripps all pre season is obviously disappointing. I consider it a blessing in disguise. It means that a fit and ready Murphy and Gibbs will start the year as your prime midfielders, while Cripps gets the opportunity to work on his forward craft and not have to carry the midfield.

I'd even play him 60-70% up forward until he regains full fitness and it wouldn't surprise me if he can genuinely turn into a CHF type with his huge frame. Along with Bont, they both need to work on their contested marking. But if they can perfect that in their game they will become virtually unstoppable. There was only one other player in the history of the game that could do that, and that was Koutafides. And with all respect to Kouta, we've already seen Cripps and Bont to things from the midfield position that the great Kouta didn't even do.

I simply can't wait to our two boys are matching up in finals. It's got the potential to be the matchups that will be remembered in footy folklore.

All the very best to your upcoming season.
You've got some future superstars and a great up and coming coach who is doing everything in the right way.
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Cripps not being 100% doesn't benefit anybody, Gibbs and Murphy would benefit the most from a fully fit Cripps.

Cripps isn't a great forward despite his height, and his kicking for goal is pretty poor too.
 
james Dean said:
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Cripps not being 100% doesn't benefit anybody, Gibbs and Murphy would benefit the most from a fully fit Cripps.

Cripps isn't a great forward despite his height, and his kicking for goal is pretty poor too.
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Cripps being down means it gives opportunity and experience to other young players step up who haven't been given much of a workload, or haven't been able to get a game in the midfield.

Cripps is also 21 years old. What makes you think he can't improve his ability up forward, or his kicking for goal?
 
FAT T0NY said:
Cripps being down means it gives opportunity and experience to other young players step up who haven't been given much of a workload, or haven't been able to get a game in the midfield.
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If he was an outside player then it's possible but none of our younger midfielders look like being inside players. Cripps being gone pretty much means we need Curnow playing his role and he certainly isn't a youngster

Cripps is also 21 years old. What makes you think he can't improve his ability up forward, or his kicking for goal?
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We've seen with Kreuzer that if a player isn't a forward naturally, then they can't play forward. His kicking for goal may improve though
 
james Dean said:
We've seen with Kreuzer that if a player isn't a forward naturally, then they can't play forward. His kicking for goal may improve though
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Don't think we can compare Cripps with Kruezer in terms of potential forward ability. Cripps plays far shorter than his height which allows him to be extremely effective on the ground and he is a far more fluid mover than Kruezer. To rule out a potential CHF Cripps when he is 21 is just silly IMO.
 
Cripps has taken a number of contested marks forward, has also kicked opportunistic goals and goals on the run. He is effective when played forward.
 
FAT T0NY said:
And with all respect to Kouta, we've already seen Cripps and Bont to things from the midfield position that the great Kouta didn't even do.
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With all respect to Cripps and Bont you obviously must not have seen much of Kouta at his best between 99 and 2001. They still have a long way to go to reach his best
 
I think Cripps has probably over trained and pushed himself too hard. Was great seeing all the reports of what he did away from the club last preseason but I couldn't help but think that the end result would be an overtraining injury.

I agree that this is an opportunity to develop Cripps game as a forward. Rather than play him forward resting where he plays deep and runs little. Play him at half forward and push him to run hard. He's an ok mark and an unreliable kick for goal but that's all the more reason to work on this aspect of his game. Play him at half forward and push him to play a similar role to Nick Riewoldt as a hard running forward who plays high up the ground. Would be valuable for us in the long run to add another string to his bow.
 

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gbatman said:
I think Cripps has probably over trained and pushed himself too hard. Was great seeing all the reports of what he did away from the club last preseason but I couldn't help but think that the end result would be an overtraining injury.

I agree that this is an opportunity to develop Cripps game as a forward. Rather than play him forward resting where he plays deep and runs little. Play him at half forward and push him to run hard. He's an ok mark and an unreliable kick for goal but that's all the more reason to work on this aspect of his game. Play him at half forward and push him to play a similar role to Nick Riewoldt as a hard running forward who plays high up the ground. Would be valuable for us in the long run to add another string to his bow.
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I can't see Cripps turning into to hard running CHF al la Nick Riewoldt. Cripps is a contested beast with great vision not a strong marking runner with a massive tank. His best value will be found at the stoppage, although pushing forward on a smaller midfield matchup is handy.
 
blue_boyz14 said:
Expected with no pre-season.

He'll gradually build up.
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Dom Tyson is in the same situation. Missed a large block of training due to a 10 week knee injury. He played JLT3 and last week for Casey, but we haven't selected him. After watching Cripps last night I think we've made the right decision.
 
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Trav 20 said:
Dom Tyson is I the same situation. Missed a large block of training due to a 10 week knee injury. He played JLT3 and last week for Casey, but we haven't selected him. After watching Cripps last night I think we've made the right decision.
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Certainly given Melbourne are competing for finals.

Cripps and Carlton had nothing to gain from playing VFL.
 
Trav 20 said:
Dom Tyson is I the same situation. Missed a large block of training due to a 10 week knee injury. He played JLT3 and last week for Casey, but we haven't selected him. After watching Cripps last night I think we've made the right decision.
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Fair enough too, unfortunately we're completely lacking at the coalface so had to chance it with an underdone Cripps.

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Topkent said:
Why was he was wearing the 11 last night?
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Switched mid-game, guessing they didn't have a spare for him so they used Kerridge's.

I suspect they would have needed clearance from the emergency umpire to do this.
 
Hopefully he'll be better for the run, though his pre-season or lack thereof isn't ideal.

Teams will want to be careful with the holding tactics they use on him though. It worked for Richmond being he wasn't quite himself, but I've seen it absolutely fire him up before and really ragdoll his opposition while racking up clearances.
 

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