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It could sway those sitting on the fence and get those Euro-snobs with Optus to start watching.
But would it turn your cause observers and current fans to spend another $20 or whatever it is. It may get some "euro snobs" to pay attention
But overall I'm not sure it would overall be a better thing then fox sports
 

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But would it turn your cause observers and current fans to spend another $20 or whatever it is. It may get some "euro snobs" to pay attention
But overall I'm not sure it would overall be a better thing then fox sports
Fox sports is the best available option. FTA wouldnt do it and fox presenters are good to make it feel professional

Its on the league to up its product to get people to watch. Market it, invest in marquees, make surw stadiums are full with dynamic pricing (seriously why are roar in a 20% suncorp ffs). So much of the shortcomings are leagues fault, broadcaster is irrelevant when they dont fix stuff in house
 

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Fox sports is the best available option. FTA wouldnt do it and fox presenters are good to make it feel professional

Its on the league to up its product to get people to watch. Market it, invest in marquees, make surw stadiums are full with dynamic pricing (seriously why are roar in a 20% suncorp ffs). So much of the shortcomings are leagues fault, broadcaster is irrelevant when they dont fix stuff in house
The product has lost its spot and whatever marketing they've been doing (including how the media talks about the sport in the news bulletins). Part of it is finding what it is (I guess they need to backpack across Europe and then they might find the answer).

But the broadcaster would help and atm fox aren't intersted (atleast not at the leagues actual value, they did the same with the rugby; they didn't even tell rugby Australia how many people were watching on kayo). I think they should get a new boradcaster that actually cares, it may be optus or stan or someone/something else but imo an fta that actually cares, rather than one that is there for the sake of it (and would give greater commercial value). Nothing against the abc, they just don't have the power in the contract.

From all reports the smaller ground works well, especially when you aren't going to get the people in anyway.
 

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They just have to make the package exciting to want to purchase Stan to watch it. Bring back active fan support. Just police it better if people start being violent.
 

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They just have to make the package exciting to want to purchase Stan to watch it. Bring back active fan support. Just police it better if people start being violent.
You are looking at 2 very different components of the games issues. They do intersect obviously but just bringing back active fans won't solve the overall problem. Imo smaller grounds and more of your young guns will help, as well as a good tv deal (which could encompass a lot of different things including Stan, optus sport or, as has been reported today, a new deal with fox)
 

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You are looking at 2 very different components of the games issues. They do intersect obviously but just bringing back active fans won't solve the overall problem. Imo smaller grounds and more of your young guns will help, as well as a good tv deal (which could encompass a lot of different things including Stan, optus sport or, as has been reported today, a new deal with fox)
Yeah sorry should have spaced my thoughts out. I get lazy typing on the phone.

If you strip it down to the bare essentials of what makes football exciting, the standard isn’t really at the same level as even the championship or Dutch league etc. hence why everything surrounding it needs to be far more enticing.

Tickets need to be cheaper and clubs need to work on filling their current boutique sized stadiums before upsizing.

Merch needs to be more exciting. It all looks the same and there’s nothing unique for each club.

FFA & Fox needed to spruce up the tv package and scheduling needs to improve.

Promotion/relegation will also raise the standard and seeing clubs that could get promoted - whether they can stay there and compete is kind of what makes the sport appealing.
 

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A-League turf war erupts in Melbourne
Joey Lynch Australia Correspondent Nov 20, 2020


Western chief executive Chris Pehlivanis.claims Melbourne Victory and Melbourne City have blocked the club from using AAMI Park as a temporary home venue in the coming A-League season.
Western United's plans for the 2020/21 A-League season have hit a major off-field hurdle, with the sophomore club accusing rivals Melbourne City and Melbourne Victory of blocking their COVID-enforced push to use AAMI Park as a home venue for the coming campaign.
As was the case during their inaugural season, United announced on Friday that they would stage a series of games in Geelong and Ballarat in 2020/21 as part of a "roadshow" of home games; the former's Kardinia Park earmarked for a minimum of four games and the latter's Mars Stadium tapped for at least two.

The club's remaining six home games are set to be staged in Melbourne, although the identity of the host stadium now is in a state of flux.
Western previously staged a single home game at Whitten Oval in 2019/20 -- a madcap 4-3 loss to Adelaide United on Australia Day -- and they had been linked in the offseason with Melbourne's Showgrounds and Chirnside Park in Werribee. The famous Somers Street home of Melbourne Knights has also been mooted as a potential home for the coming campaign, and the club has explored the possibility of taking a home game to Tasmania.
But with COVID-19, subsequent limits on crowds, increased safety requirements at venues, and ground availability clashes raised by the delayed start of the coming season all biting, Western says those plans were rendered financially unviable, unsafe or some combination of both.
As a temporary stop-gap, the club instead hoped to stage six home games at AAMI Park, three of which would have been derby games. However, those plans have apparently been blocked by existing tenants Melbourne Victory and Melbourne City.
Coming just weeks after the unbundling of the A-League from Football Federation Australia was confirmed, the turf war over the ground, which is operated by the Melbourne and Olympic Parks Trust, and which also hosts NRL side Melbourne Storm and Super Rugby side Melbourne Rebels, has frustrated Western chief executive Chris Pehlivanis.
"We've found a solution and we're getting resistance from the two tenant clubs," Pehlivanis told ESPN.
"And we don't believe that it's good for the game of football.
"You would think in an environment where we're going independent as a competition, that the clubs would work collaboratively for the good of the game.
"It's only for the short term.
"We're building a stadium; we're going to the west, that's us. But we need a solution [for 2020/21]; the league is starting later and COVID hit.
"But they're just pushing back. The league's gone independent. You would think that, in this environment, we'd be doing decisions for the betterment of the game. But we just can't make it as a code, and we're frustrated."
Melbourne City and Melbourne Victory declined to comment when approached by ESPN.
Western entered the A-League in 2019/20, finishing their debut campaign in fifth place on the regular-season table before losing 2-1 to Melbourne City in the semifinals.
Key in the club's licence to compete in the competition -- and in overcoming City and Victory objections to a third team in Melbourne -- was the promise of a purpose-built stadium in Melbourne's west. The successful delivery of that stadium has been magnified in importance by the saga over AAMI Park.
Western also unveiled plans in the offseason to construct a training facility that will include three pitches, two of which will be available primarily for community use, and seating for up to 5000 spectators. The facility will be funded jointly by Wyndham City and the United parent group, Western Melbourne Group.


Build your stadium as intended or fu** off and let a legitimate team in!
 
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A-League turf war erupts in Melbourne
Joey Lynch Australia Correspondent Nov 20, 2020


Western chief executive Chris Pehlivanis.claims Melbourne Victory and Melbourne City have blocked the club from using AAMI Park as a temporary home venue in the coming A-League season.
Western United's plans for the 2020/21 A-League season have hit a major off-field hurdle, with the sophomore club accusing rivals Melbourne City and Melbourne Victory of blocking their COVID-enforced push to use AAMI Park as a home venue for the coming campaign.
As was the case during their inaugural season, United announced on Friday that they would stage a series of games in Geelong and Ballarat in 2020/21 as part of a "roadshow" of home games; the former's Kardinia Park earmarked for a minimum of four games and the latter's Mars Stadium tapped for at least two.

The club's remaining six home games are set to be staged in Melbourne, although the identity of the host stadium now is in a state of flux.
Western previously staged a single home game at Whitten Oval in 2019/20 -- a madcap 4-3 loss to Adelaide United on Australia Day -- and they had been linked in the offseason with Melbourne's Showgrounds and Chirnside Park in Werribee. The famous Somers Street home of Melbourne Knights has also been mooted as a potential home for the coming campaign, and the club has explored the possibility of taking a home game to Tasmania.
But with COVID-19, subsequent limits on crowds, increased safety requirements at venues, and ground availability clashes raised by the delayed start of the coming season all biting, Western says those plans were rendered financially unviable, unsafe or some combination of both.
As a temporary stop-gap, the club instead hoped to stage six home games at AAMI Park, three of which would have been derby games. However, those plans have apparently been blocked by existing tenants Melbourne Victory and Melbourne City.
Coming just weeks after the unbundling of the A-League from Football Federation Australia was confirmed, the turf war over the ground, which is operated by the Melbourne and Olympic Parks Trust, and which also hosts NRL side Melbourne Storm and Super Rugby side Melbourne Rebels, has frustrated Western chief executive Chris Pehlivanis.
"We've found a solution and we're getting resistance from the two tenant clubs," Pehlivanis told ESPN.
"And we don't believe that it's good for the game of football.
"You would think in an environment where we're going independent as a competition, that the clubs would work collaboratively for the good of the game.
"It's only for the short term.
"We're building a stadium; we're going to the west, that's us. But we need a solution [for 2020/21]; the league is starting later and COVID hit.
"But they're just pushing back. The league's gone independent. You would think that, in this environment, we'd be doing decisions for the betterment of the game. But we just can't make it as a code, and we're frustrated."
Melbourne City and Melbourne Victory declined to comment when approached by ESPN.
Western entered the A-League in 2019/20, finishing their debut campaign in fifth place on the regular-season table before losing 2-1 to Melbourne City in the semifinals.
Key in the club's licence to compete in the competition -- and in overcoming City and Victory objections to a third team in Melbourne -- was the promise of a purpose-built stadium in Melbourne's west. The successful delivery of that stadium has been magnified in importance by the saga over AAMI Park.
Western also unveiled plans in the offseason to construct a training facility that will include three pitches, two of which will be available primarily for community use, and seating for up to 5000 spectators. The facility will be funded jointly by Wyndham City and the United parent group, Western Melbourne Group.


Build your stadium as intended or fu** off and let a legitimate team in!
They've had everything gifted to them and now they want more. Pathetic club.
 

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Always understood why MacArthur got a team a the region is pretty much the last in Sydney that isn’t covered and they have pride in that region, plus they have a stadium.

Never got Western, only thing they have done right are the colours and kit.

Would of thought Canberra or the Gong would of been a better choice.

South maybe just for the laughs.
 

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Always understood why MacArthur got a team a the region is pretty much the last in Sydney that isn’t covered and they have pride in that region, plus they have a stadium.

Never got Western, only thing they have done right are the colours and kit.

Would of thought Canberra or the Gong would of been a better choice.

South maybe just for the laughs.
Guarantee that stadium will NOT be built and the club will relocate or morph into something else within the next 5 years, bank it!

South have been laughing there pants off since Melbourne Heart was introduced! But at the some time frustrated at how they've been treated when the answers is right their steering at the FFA's faces all along!
 
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Shows how stupid it was bringing that team in. The idea of 3 sides using one ground. Pathetic

Imagine clubs in leagues around the world sharing grounds. Cowboy league

Melbourne ruined it by having "heart/city/victory" instead of geographical. Once victory got a foothold, new teams had an uphill battle then the galaxy brains do a new team again with no geographical affiliation. Now they try that and they want the same bloody ground.
 

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South have been laughing there pants off since Melbourne Heart was introduced! But at the some time frustrated at how they've been treated when the answers is right their steering at the FFA's faces all along!
South Melbourne has got no money. They have had multiple chances to buy the Heart A-league license or Wellington Phoenix A-league license to get their team in the league and they didn't have the finances to do. South will remain all talk no action.

If they were cashed up, they could easily buy the Newcastle license or Central Coast license as both of these clubs are bleeding cash.
 

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South Melbourne has got no money. They have had multiple chances to buy the Heart A-league license or Wellington Phoenix A-league license to get their team in the league and they didn't have the finances to do. South will remain all talk no action.

If they were cashed up, they could easily buy the Newcastle license or Central Coast license as both of these clubs are bleeding cash.
Would most likely of been ccm. The issue with south, apart from money, is they want to stay in south Melbourne which is not what any club or the ffa want.


I get there being a team in the outer Melbourne region and understand why aami would be a good place for a temporary ground. Western need to play games in Melbourne to build support (why they didn't play atleast half the games last year in Melbourne beats me).
 

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South Melbourne has got no money. They have had multiple chances to buy the Heart A-league license or Wellington Phoenix A-league license to get their team in the league and they didn't have the finances to do. South will remain all talk no action.
Correction, they had no chance to get Nix's licence. They emailed us and we never responded.
 

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A-League clubs to bail out Jets after mooted ownership group pulls out
Vince Rugari

The immediate future of the Newcastle Jets is again in limbo after a prospective ownership group in advanced talks with the A-League club pulled out of the running.
Sources with knowledge of the situation said the investors had been in a period of exclusive negotiations and due diligence with Football Federation Australia, which expired on Sunday.

The consortium – which was being fronted by prominent player agent Buddy Farah, and is believed to have included several locally-based businessmen – then told the Jets and FFA on Monday they were formally withdrawing their interest after the club was unable to produce audited financial accounts for the last two years.
Sources have told the Herald that some elements of the FFA board felt the best course of action this season was to pull the club's licence from absentee chairman Martin Lee and withdraw the Jets from the A-League, with a view to bringing the club back in the following season with a new owner and on a more stable footing.
Some club executives also share that position, but high-level league sources have confirmed the Jets would be saved and that their participation in the forthcoming season was not in doubt.
The clubs see the Hunter region as a football hotbed and a vital market for A-League and W-League, and the Jets as a team with enormous potential that can be realised with the right ownership.

However, the Jets are believed to be owing several million dollars in debt to creditors – including the operators of their home ground, McDonald Jones Stadium – which could complicate any licence handover.
While other investors are still believed to be in the mix, a sale is unlikely to be completed before the start of the new season on December 27 – which means Newcastle will begin the next A-League campaign mired in off-field turmoil, with no permanent coach in place and with several vacant spots in their playing squad yet to be filled.
It appears other A-League club owners will have to bankroll the club for an interim period until new owners are found for the Jets, through a mooted "safety net" fund which was first reported by the Herald in August.
Western Sydney Wanderers chairman Paul Lederer – the head of the Australian Professional Football Clubs Association – told the Herald in October that owners had committed to bailing out financially-stricken clubs like the Jets, and again repeated that pledge in a separate interview with SBS last week.
Farah and Jets chief executive Lawrie McKinna declined to comment, while an FFA spokesperson said discussions were ongoing with "a number of prospective buyers".
McKinna revealed earlier this year that Lee, the Chinese lighting magnate who bought the team in 2016, had not put any funds into the club since October 2019.
Key players including Bernie Ibini and Steven Ugarkovic have also been agitating for a release from their contracts due to the uncertainty surrounding Newcastle's future.
As things stand, the A-League is still the legal responsibility of FFA, but the governing body has no financial capacity to run the Jets as it has done previously for clubs which have fallen on hard times.
But the long-awaited legal ratification of the professional leagues from the governing body could come as soon as next week, and that would pave the way for other club owners to bail out the Jets in the short term.
"A change of ownership is clearly needed to revitalise the club and put it on a sound footing again and continue their important role in the Northern NSW community and we are hoping to have a new owner for the Newcastle Jets very soon," an FFA spokesperson said.

 
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