A-Leagues & Football Australia General Chat and News Thread

[craigos]

The stadium was set to go at 1160 Sayers Road Tarneit. This is on the western fringe of the suburb and really Melbourne. This was reported widely in various media reports but looking into this address, found that Grand Central Estate has that particular area marked for a town centre with no room for a 15,000 seat soccer stadium.

So further investigations has found the stadium will be erected here, bounded by Leakes Road, Sewells Road and the Melbourne to Geelong Rail Line. Access will then most likely be by Leakes Road.



This is quite interesting

 

[giggler99]

How is Western United's fully funded stadium coming along?

In their original winning bid Western said they would have the $150 million venue up and running for their third season in the league, due to kick off in the spring of 2021.

It will never get built now! Maybe a training base might get built if the club still exists in 2-3 years, The club has blown it! They have no fans and no home, the pandemic also has come at the worse possible time for them to justify it.

 

[giggler99]

The stadium was set to go at 1160 Sayers Road Tarneit. This is on the western fringe of the suburb and really Melbourne. This was reported widely in various media reports but looking into this address, found that Grand Central Estate has that particular area marked for a town centre with no room for a 15,000 seat soccer stadium.

So further investigations has found the stadium will be erected here, bounded by Leakes Road, Sewells Road and the Melbourne to Geelong Rail Line. Access will then most likely be by Leakes Road.



This is quite interesting

where did you find that?

 

[craigos]

where did you find that?

Just from google, pretty much the only thing to mention the stadium from the past 6 months. Seems to know their stuff too.

 

[Quivorir]

Was never being built and was a joke of a decision that they were let in in the first place. Hope the club folds.

 

[Colonial]

 

[Greenery]

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Fair enough, good side.

Jakobsen has had some very dodgy performances the only real player that stands out as shouldn't be in there.

And King is a very good referee as Speedy constantly reminds us.

 

[gaskin]

Castro not even on the bench? Okay.

 

[apollo_creed]

Three strikers... not even players in their correct positions.. rightio.

 

[gaskin]

Anyone need a right back? Franjic has left the Glory.

 

[Greenery]

Anyone need a right back? Franjic has left the Glory.

Middle East or India?
Might go to Japan or Korea, he is good enough.

All these quality Aussies leaving as the wages plummet cheers FFA.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Best of luck to Timbo's lad. Hopefully a future Socceroo in the making

 

[apollo_creed]

Hopefully not as much of a w***er as his dad.

 

[Dogs till i die]

Just from google, pretty much the only thing to mention the stadium from the past 6 months. Seems to know their stuff too.

6 months or so ago, local Wyndham paper boasted that "soil testing" had been completed and that building was ready to commence. Living nearby i visited the site a month or so ago and there's nothing but wide and flat open paddocks.

Just doubt it will ever get built now and doubt they'll survive at Knights Stadium long term. Were to tap into the vast soccer friendly population around Wyndham for their support and Sunshine is such an old area.

 

[acm21]

Brisbane are looking to relocate the clubs training base to the Gold Coast (potentially the suns facilities). It doesn’t specify if they are looking at Brisbane facilities. There is talk of Brisbane finding a new home ground due to Suncorps size.

Exclusive: Brisbane Roar considering shock relocation to join Gold Coast Suns

Exclusive: A-League club considering shock relocation to join Gold Coast Suns

www.foxsports.com.au

Sent from my iPad using BigFooty.com

 

[craigos]

https://fairgofortasfootball.com.au/

If any of you would like to sign the petition, have at it. Hobart postcode is 7000 if you have forget where you live

Football is Tasmania’s most popular sport, yet it receives the least amount of government funding per player of any major sport.

 

[Andonis1997]

Uh oh.

Wellington Phoenix were almost out of cash before their first NZ Government handout – will they need another?

Stuff

i.stuff.co.nz

 

[Colonial]

Final ‘XI Principles’ document to guide Australian football’s transformation

Football Federation Australia (FFA) today released the second and final iteration of the ‘XI Principles for the future of Australian football’ (XI Principles) document following a rigorous and collaborative period of consultation with the national football family. The XI Principles will provide...

www.ffa.com.au

 

[giggler99]

Good read.

Football Federation Australia name change a catalyst to connect with our football past

With FFA considering changing its name and ditching the Football Federation Australia brand, the game has an opportunity to ignite efforts to reconnect with the past, and reboot the game's future, explains SIMON HILL - starting with the FFA Cup.

By Simon Hill
13th Oct 2020, 02:22 PM
For an organisation that has often been accused of ignoring history, a re-branding exercise would seem to offer up an enticing opportunity for Football Federation Australia.

The game's governing body is believed to be considering changing the name of FFA. Among the ideas being tossed around are the incorporation of the word "Association" into any new title (presumably to distinguish the code of football), or even the more simplified "Football Australia".

This would follow the lead of member federations such as Football Victoria, who dropped the "Federation" part of their title in 2018, and Football South Australia, who did likewise a year later.

However, any name change would also present a problem for the FFA Cup. If the FFA were to become FA, then there is simply no option to use those initials for the nascent, but already much-loved competition. England took ownership of the "FA Cup" moniker well over a hundred years ago.

Therefore, it is believed FFA is considering dipping into the past, and exhuming the "Australia Cup" name - the forerunner of the modern competition, and last played in 1968.

Famously - or infamously - the old Australia Cup trophy was saved from being lost forever after builders discovered it in a rubbish bin during renovation work at the Hakoah club in Sydney, back in 2011. Hakoah had been the last winners of the Cup, defeating their namesakes from Melbourne 6-1 over a two-legged final.

The trophy has since been restored, and was housed until recently at FFA HQ in College Street, Sydney - itself soon to become a relic of the past, with the FFA having terminated its lease on the premises, ostensibly ahead of a move to a "Home of Football" as outlined in the XI Principles.

FFA has shown increased interest in linking the history of the old Cup to the new one in recent years. The modern trophy pays homage to the 1960's version, and in 2019, Chairman Chris Nikou presented the old trophy for safe-keeping to George Cross, the last surviving club to have won the former competition.

The potential change is not the only one being debated to the knockout competition, which will return after a year hiatus thanks to COVID-19, in 2021.

FFA CEO, James Johnson, is believed to be among those keen on adopting a group stage to the early phase of the Cup, offering more games for both A-League and NPL clubs. An open draw is also under consideration, which would do away with the current situation whereby at least one NPL club is guaranteed a spot in the semi-finals. The Cup was kept out of the one-year extended broadcast deal with Fox Sports, perhaps to be used as a testing ground for a proposed digital hub, run by the game itself.

FFA is also keen to offer a half spot into the Asian Champions League for the winners of the Cup, while the alignment of the football calendar to winter would continue to offer it some "clear air," with the early rounds to commence in July, and continuing through until the final around November.

FFA is believed to be keen on the final becoming the last game of the calendar year, as is the case with most European knockout competitions. This could also offer the game another golden opportunity to remember its history in my opinion.

A standalone final in Canberra in the week of Remembrance Sunday would offer football the chance to build some traditions in the national capital - and to tell some little known stories - especially with the other codes being dormant at that time of year.

Football - contrary to the popular narrative - contributed hugely to the war effort and the establishment of the ANZAC legend. One club - the Caledonians team in Perth - lost six first-team players in active service in World War 1. Irymple Soccer Club in Mildura lost five. There are countless other examples, the same as all the other codes.

The Australian War Memorial in Canberra houses photographs of football games at Gallipoli in 1915, and on the Aegean island of Lemnos in the same year, with soldiers from HMS Hunter playing a game against a 6th Battalion team. The players were likely en route to Egypt after participating in the Gallipoli campaign.

In his book The Game That Never Happened, author Ian Syson wrote that the war is "the place of another dislocated kind of rich soccer history that reveals a game far more central to Australian stories than has been hitherto acknowledged".

What better way than to make peace with the game's history than an "Australia Cup" Final on the Saturday, followed by back-to-back Australia v New Zealand internationals (men and women) on Remembrance Sunday?

The crowning glory could be a new "Soccer Ashes" trophy, to replace the original, which contained the ashes of cigars smoked by the Australian & New Zealand captains (Alec Gibb and George Campbell) after the 1923 series between the two. The ashes were sealed in a razor case, used by a New Zealand soldier during that Gallipoli campaign, then set in wood from both countries.

Sadly, the Soccer Ashes have long since been lost - and the concept consigned to the bin of history, the fate that so nearly befell the old Australia Cup.

The revival of both would be a great start in FFA's attempts to reboot the game, and reconnect, at least in some way, with its distant past. Particularly as 2022 sees the centenary of that first-ever Australia-New Zealand clash - with Gibb and Campbell the two captains.

In 2023, the two nations will co-host the FIFA Women's World Cup - what better timing could there be?

Optus Sport

sport.optus.com.au

 

[Andonis1997]

Good read.

Football Federation Australia name change a catalyst to connect with our football past

With FFA considering changing its name and ditching the Football Federation Australia brand, the game has an opportunity to ignite efforts to reconnect with the past, and reboot the game's future, explains SIMON HILL - starting with the FFA Cup.

By Simon Hill
13th Oct 2020, 02:22 PM
For an organisation that has often been accused of ignoring history, a re-branding exercise would seem to offer up an enticing opportunity for Football Federation Australia.

The game's governing body is believed to be considering changing the name of FFA. Among the ideas being tossed around are the incorporation of the word "Association" into any new title (presumably to distinguish the code of football), or even the more simplified "Football Australia".

This would follow the lead of member federations such as Football Victoria, who dropped the "Federation" part of their title in 2018, and Football South Australia, who did likewise a year later.

However, any name change would also present a problem for the FFA Cup. If the FFA were to become FA, then there is simply no option to use those initials for the nascent, but already much-loved competition. England took ownership of the "FA Cup" moniker well over a hundred years ago.

Therefore, it is believed FFA is considering dipping into the past, and exhuming the "Australia Cup" name - the forerunner of the modern competition, and last played in 1968.

Famously - or infamously - the old Australia Cup trophy was saved from being lost forever after builders discovered it in a rubbish bin during renovation work at the Hakoah club in Sydney, back in 2011. Hakoah had been the last winners of the Cup, defeating their namesakes from Melbourne 6-1 over a two-legged final.

The trophy has since been restored, and was housed until recently at FFA HQ in College Street, Sydney - itself soon to become a relic of the past, with the FFA having terminated its lease on the premises, ostensibly ahead of a move to a "Home of Football" as outlined in the XI Principles.

FFA has shown increased interest in linking the history of the old Cup to the new one in recent years. The modern trophy pays homage to the 1960's version, and in 2019, Chairman Chris Nikou presented the old trophy for safe-keeping to George Cross, the last surviving club to have won the former competition.

The potential change is not the only one being debated to the knockout competition, which will return after a year hiatus thanks to COVID-19, in 2021.

FFA CEO, James Johnson, is believed to be among those keen on adopting a group stage to the early phase of the Cup, offering more games for both A-League and NPL clubs. An open draw is also under consideration, which would do away with the current situation whereby at least one NPL club is guaranteed a spot in the semi-finals. The Cup was kept out of the one-year extended broadcast deal with Fox Sports, perhaps to be used as a testing ground for a proposed digital hub, run by the game itself.

FFA is also keen to offer a half spot into the Asian Champions League for the winners of the Cup, while the alignment of the football calendar to winter would continue to offer it some "clear air," with the early rounds to commence in July, and continuing through until the final around November.

FFA is believed to be keen on the final becoming the last game of the calendar year, as is the case with most European knockout competitions. This could also offer the game another golden opportunity to remember its history in my opinion.

A standalone final in Canberra in the week of Remembrance Sunday would offer football the chance to build some traditions in the national capital - and to tell some little known stories - especially with the other codes being dormant at that time of year.

Football - contrary to the popular narrative - contributed hugely to the war effort and the establishment of the ANZAC legend. One club - the Caledonians team in Perth - lost six first-team players in active service in World War 1. Irymple Soccer Club in Mildura lost five. There are countless other examples, the same as all the other codes.

The Australian War Memorial in Canberra houses photographs of football games at Gallipoli in 1915, and on the Aegean island of Lemnos in the same year, with soldiers from HMS Hunter playing a game against a 6th Battalion team. The players were likely en route to Egypt after participating in the Gallipoli campaign.

In his book The Game That Never Happened, author Ian Syson wrote that the war is "the place of another dislocated kind of rich soccer history that reveals a game far more central to Australian stories than has been hitherto acknowledged".

What better way than to make peace with the game's history than an "Australia Cup" Final on the Saturday, followed by back-to-back Australia v New Zealand internationals (men and women) on Remembrance Sunday?

The crowning glory could be a new "Soccer Ashes" trophy, to replace the original, which contained the ashes of cigars smoked by the Australian & New Zealand captains (Alec Gibb and George Campbell) after the 1923 series between the two. The ashes were sealed in a razor case, used by a New Zealand soldier during that Gallipoli campaign, then set in wood from both countries.

Sadly, the Soccer Ashes have long since been lost - and the concept consigned to the bin of history, the fate that so nearly befell the old Australia Cup.

The revival of both would be a great start in FFA's attempts to reboot the game, and reconnect, at least in some way, with its distant past. Particularly as 2022 sees the centenary of that first-ever Australia-New Zealand clash - with Gibb and Campbell the two captains.

In 2023, the two nations will co-host the FIFA Women's World Cup - what better timing could there be?

Optus Sport

sport.optus.com.au

In James Johnson I trust. That is all.

 

[acm21]

Jets are on the brink!!! Robinson will join wanderes and discussions are happening around the future of the jets license. Would of put this in the off-season thread but for the Newcastle aspect.

Robinson to be unveiled as Wanderers coach as Newcastle's future hangs in balance

Western Sydney have poached Carl Robinson from the Newcastle Jets, but the battling Hunter club is facing much bigger problems.

www.smh.com.au

 

[giggler99]

Jets are on the brink!!! Robinson will join wanderes and discussions are happening around the future of the jets license. Would of put this in the off-season thread but for the Newcastle aspect.

Robinson to be unveiled as Wanderers coach as Newcastle's future hangs in balance

Western Sydney have poached Carl Robinson from the Newcastle Jets, but the battling Hunter club is facing much bigger problems.

www.smh.com.au

Still relevant to the off season thread I'll add it there too.

 

[Quivorir]

TIL there is an off season thread. Thought it was quiet around here.

 

[acm21]

TIL there is an off season thread. Thought it was quiet around here.

A-League 2020/21 Off Season Thread

With so many players leaving the league, I wonder how many clubs are going to seriously struggle to put out a competitive side next season. lucky to even have a league at this point! Victory, Sydney and Perth are surpose to play ACL in a few weeks, Not sure about Perth and Sydney but I've...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[giggler99]

FFA, A-League clubs reach agreement on separation
Michael Lynch

Football Federation Australia and the A-League clubs have finally ended years of haggling and come to an agreement over the future direction of Australia's elite soccer competition.
The clubs will take control of the A-League before Christmas, which they have been angling to do for several seasons, ever since the end of the war within the game which saw Steven Lowy ousted as FFA chairman two years ago.


The clubs will take control of the marketing and commercialisation of the A-League and will be able to lead the drive for outside investors. With several clubs facing massive financial pressure as a result of the coronavirus pandemic fresh capital is crucial in the short term.

They will also be responsible for drawing up the fixture in conjunction with FFA, which wants the competition to move to winter so that it runs in tandem with the rest of the lower-tier leagues in Australia.


FFA will become the regulator, and will have the final say over issues like the introduction of promotion and relegation, and expansion.
Many within the game are pushing for promotion and relegation to eventually be implemented after the institution of a national second division, but there are disputes over the timing of its introduction amid some concerns over how it might affect the viability of some A-League clubs.
FFA chief executive James Johnson said discussions over several months have now produced a resolution.
"We are the final stage of the unbundling process and have reached an agreement with the clubs and member federations," he said.
"The unbundling is now being operationalised and will come into full effect for the start of this coming A-League and W-League season.
"The clubs will become the league's owner and operator and the FFA will become the regulator of the Australian professional game."

FFA, A-League clubs reach agreement on separation

The A-League clubs will take charge of Australia's elite soccer competition before Christmas as years of haggling and disagreement comes to an end.

www.watoday.com.au

Tough period for A-league owners to be making these decisions on the future of the league but a body that had to be made.

Will also post in the A-league independence thread.