Opinion A Rocca vs T Cloke - Who is Better?

[Timmy from Thomastown]

T Cloke is miles better. More pace, better tank, better ground game, and better one on one contested mark, and more consistent.

Rocca took a better pack mark and was a better kick from 50, and was probably more capable of being a match winner on his day.

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

No choice for mine:-

 

[76woodenspooners]

Or this lazy launch a few years after retirement ...

 

[PieLebo87]

No choice for mine:-

3 minutes in. That death stare after Dawson puts his knee into his back lol priceless. He would've absolutely ripped the kids head off.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

Cloke by a (very long) distance. Rocca was a good player who was inconsistent yet very important structurally. Cloke is a dead set superstar who is consistent and also vitally important structurally. Cloke is the best contested mark since Carey, is better player (clearly) below his knees and offers way more defensively. No offence to Anthony who I like and was a good player but the fact that this thread exists means Cloke is still criminally underrated by some on here.

 

[SnakePlisskin]

I voted Cloke because he could string plenty of good games together but Rocca was more spectacular .
Roccas goal in the 02 prelim vs the crows was probably the best thing I have seen . Apart from THE SMOTHER .

 

[biggiemediums]

Trav Cloke for sure in my book, Rocca could go missing for a couple weeks. His best was fantastic though. Still had nothing on Sav for mine though!

 

[loki04]

No choice for mine:-

Gee i miss that 02/03 team don't ask me why just the mixture of Bucks, Rocca, Burnsy, Tazza (up fwd screamer a week), Dids and Leon at there feet, Clement out of the backline with Wakes and Presti rounding out the the talls, Licca and Dutchy Holland adding mid mongrel..

Under rated side and were great to watch imo.


Hows the kick out defence by Bucks at 4:09, he is the best field kick I've ever seen bar none.

 

[lozza63]

Anthony was the better set shot for goal as his average of 1.7 goals per game indicates versus 1.55 goals per game for Trav.

I think if you want consistent overall benefit to the team you would lean to Trav - but gee for pure "high octane" excitement nobody beat Pebs when he was on song!

 

[medhurstISGOD]

Cloek. Rocca's too old I reckon.

 

[PieLebo87]

Gee i miss that 02/03 team don't ask me why just the mixture of Bucks, Rocca, Burnsy, Tazza (up fwd screamer a week), Dids and Leon at there feet, Clement out of the backline with Wakes and Presti rounding out the the talls, Licca and Dutchy Holland adding mid mongrel..

Under rated side and were great to watch imo.


Hows the kick out defence by Bucks at 4:09, he is the best field kick I've ever seen bar none.

I'm in the same boat as you. I miss that team as well. I don't understand how people say that Collingwood team of '02 and '03 were lucky to make it to two Grand Finals. I thought the names you mentioned were out and out stars for the Magpies. Seriously though, Buckley and Burns are absolute champions of the Collingwood FC. Rocca, Licca, Presti and Clement will be remembered for a long time as great servants, and then you've got the likes of Dids, Neon, Wakelin and Holland who were unstoppable at their best.

Cloek. Rocca's too old I reckon.

I LOL'ed.

 

[StillWaiting5689]

Have voted Rocca, as others have said his best was better. He was more likely to rip a team a part and think we relied on him more heavily.

Cloke however has proven himself more consistent over a season but what clinches it for me is if I was given the option now to trade them and have Rocca play now I would take that option every time.

However I may be blinded by Rocca being a part of an era of players which were my childhood heroes. I'm positive that group of players will always be my favourite despite not going all the way.

 

[SUNSHINE22]

Rocca. Loved watching him play when I was a kid.

 

[Pera]

Rocca was more important to the 02/03 sides than what Cloke is to us right now.

Still, Cloke by a little bit.

 

[Old Spice]

Anthony was the better set shot for goal as his average of 1.7 goals per game indicates versus 1.55 goals per game for Trav.

I think if you want consistent overall benefit to the team you would lean to Trav - but gee for pure "high octane" excitement nobody beat Pebs when he was on song!

Good point re goals. We always forget our champions. Should be recalled that Rocca kicked those goals alongside Taz and Cloke. Was a superb player.

Trav is a more athletic player, but when you talk about bringing the ball to ground and smashing packs, no-one smashed and split packs open like Rocca in the contest.

Roccas hands were very good as was his kicking for goal.

 

[Harpergun]

I voted Cloke but my analysis would probably suggest Rocca (Rocca's just one of those players I loved as a child)

Rocca could kick it from further out.

In regards to contested marks Rocca also led the comp in contested marks through out a few stages in his career, and I think Rocca probably had a better leap than Cloke. But then again Travis Cloke is the greatest contested mark of all time.

Travis nearly cost us a grand final and Rocca kept us in one.

I think Cloke is a better athlete than Rocca and Cloke's defensive pressure is definitely better than Rocca's however defensive pressure was non existent in Rocca's time as a forward.

And finally I don't recall Rocca putting together a complete consistent season Cloke has been able to do so and has also been selected as an all Australian in his efforts.

LOL

 

[ipswichpies]

Prefer Travis over Anthony but Ant,s kicking was more reliable than Travis by and Large,I would take Sav over the pair of them if he had had a bit of Anthony,s mongrel and hardness Sav was the best kick of the 3 IMO.