A Third Team In Sydney - It's Only a Matter Of Time !!

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I don't think that's entirely true. If you go there and hang shit on the game, then you'll rightly cop it, but if you went with a genuine interest in both sports, then you'd be fine. I stopped going there simply because it's far too personal even amongst the RL folks.
Thats rubbish. The AFL subforum there is dead except for the occasions troglodytes from the Fight Club get bored. If you have admitted to liking AFL but are trying to partake in a conversation on the NRL board you'll be howled down quickly. Storm supporters who admit to liking both codes don't get very far at all.
 
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Sydney has outgrown the traditional Sydney basin...
No it hasn't. There's still rural areas in the basin … even room for a new airport.
… Ummm That's because it's a big city. It is not separate contiguous urban zone. There are no rural areas between Sydney and Newcastle...
Hahaha. Not even you can believe this made up balderdash. In fact, driving to the Central Coast, there's 32 kilometres of forested bushland from Berowra, being the last tip of Sydney suburbia (and itself on the end of a very skinny 9km finger of suburbia protruding into the forest) until the Gosford turn-off leading to the quite separate (and thus non-contiguous) Central Coast City (which is recognised as a regional city by the NSW Government). In contrast, there is only an 18 kilometre gap between the Werribee and Lara turnoffs that mark the current edge of the Melbourne and Geelong suburban limits respectively, with Avalon Airport in between.

As for your ludicrous statement about there being no rural gap to Newcastle (the drive is mostly through rural country) the rural gap between Melbourne and Ballarat and/or Bendigo is greater than from Sydney to Newcastle.
People living in the central coast and Lake Macquarie areas largely work in the Sydney basin
More gibberish. In fact it's only 7% commuting (as per the article quoting the ABS).

As the article also says - "...Tim Williams, the chief executive of business lobby group the Committee for Sydney, says Sydneysiders themselves aren't too sure if the Central Coast is part of the city. "Sometimes we seem to include it and sometime we don't," he said. "I worry that we do include it sometimes to boost the numbers." The scope of the powerful Greater Sydney Commission set up recently by the NSW government to "coordinate and align" the planning is also telling. It doesn't include the Central Coast.

No matter where you think Greater Sydney's boundaries should be drawn, this comparison draws attention to a striking demographic trend - Melbourne's burgeoning growth. The population of the Victorian capital grew by nearly a million people during the past decade - almost 200,000 more than Sydney added in the same period. That rapid growth has been driven by a stream of arrivals from other Australian states, including NSW, as well as net overseas migration. Melbourne is on track to become the nation's biggest city, regardless of whether the Central Coast is used to bolster the numbers for Greater Sydney.

https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/is-melbourne-already-bigger-than-sydney-20170922-gyn2k4.html
 

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No it hasn't. There's still rural areas in the basin … even room for a new airport.
Hahaha. Not even you can believe this made up balderdash. In fact, driving to the Central Coast, there's 32 kilometres of forested bushland from Berowra, being the last tip of Sydney suburbia (and itself on the end of a very skinny 9km finger of suburbia protruding into the forest) until the Gosford turn-off leading to the quite separate (and thus non-contiguous) Central Coast City (which is recognised as a regional city by the NSW Government). In contrast, there is only an 18 kilometre gap between the Werribee and Lara turnoffs that mark the current edge of the Melbourne and Geelong suburban limits respectively, with Avalon Airport in between.

As for your ludicrous statement about there being no rural gap to Newcastle (the drive is mostly through rural country) the rural gap between Melbourne and Ballarat and/or Bendigo is greater than from Sydney to Newcastle.
More gibberish. In fact it's only 7% commuting (as per the article quoting the ABS).

As the article also says - "...Tim Williams, the chief executive of business lobby group the Committee for Sydney, says Sydneysiders themselves aren't too sure if the Central Coast is part of the city. "Sometimes we seem to include it and sometime we don't," he said. "I worry that we do include it sometimes to boost the numbers." The scope of the powerful Greater Sydney Commission set up recently by the NSW government to "coordinate and align" the planning is also telling. It doesn't include the Central Coast.

No matter where you think Greater Sydney's boundaries should be drawn, this comparison draws attention to a striking demographic trend - Melbourne's burgeoning growth. The population of the Victorian capital grew by nearly a million people during the past decade - almost 200,000 more than Sydney added in the same period. That rapid growth has been driven by a stream of arrivals from other Australian states, including NSW, as well as net overseas migration. Melbourne is on track to become the nation's biggest city, regardless of whether the Central Coast is used to bolster the numbers for Greater Sydney.

https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/is-melbourne-already-bigger-than-sydney-20170922-gyn2k4.html
You make the mistake of thinking that insults and letters typed show the strength of your argument.

I prefer the short rebuttal, so I'll state the obvious. Your post is incoherent nonsense.
 

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No it hasn't. There's still rural areas in the basin … even room for a new airport.
Hahaha. Not even you can believe this made up balderdash. In fact, driving to the Central Coast, there's 32 kilometres of forested bushland from Berowra, being the last tip of Sydney suburbia (and itself on the end of a very skinny 9km finger of suburbia protruding into the forest) until the Gosford turn-off leading to the quite separate (and thus non-contiguous) Central Coast City (which is recognised as a regional city by the NSW Government). In contrast, there is only an 18 kilometre gap between the Werribee and Lara turnoffs that mark the current edge of the Melbourne and Geelong suburban limits respectively, with Avalon Airport in between.

As for your ludicrous statement about there being no rural gap to Newcastle (the drive is mostly through rural country) the rural gap between Melbourne and Ballarat and/or Bendigo is greater than from Sydney to Newcastle.
More gibberish. In fact it's only 7% commuting (as per the article quoting the ABS).

As the article also says - "...Tim Williams, the chief executive of business lobby group the Committee for Sydney, says Sydneysiders themselves aren't too sure if the Central Coast is part of the city. "Sometimes we seem to include it and sometime we don't," he said. "I worry that we do include it sometimes to boost the numbers." The scope of the powerful Greater Sydney Commission set up recently by the NSW government to "coordinate and align" the planning is also telling. It doesn't include the Central Coast.

No matter where you think Greater Sydney's boundaries should be drawn, this comparison draws attention to a striking demographic trend - Melbourne's burgeoning growth. The population of the Victorian capital grew by nearly a million people during the past decade - almost 200,000 more than Sydney added in the same period. That rapid growth has been driven by a stream of arrivals from other Australian states, including NSW, as well as net overseas migration. Melbourne is on track to become the nation's biggest city, regardless of whether the Central Coast is used to bolster the numbers for Greater Sydney.

https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/is-melbourne-already-bigger-than-sydney-20170922-gyn2k4.html
You do realise Sydneysiders dont care if we are the most populated city or not.

Seems only some of those from Melbourne have a hard on for it.

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It is telling that the SMH, & other Sydney MSM, are now writing articles about the growth of school girl AF in Sydney schools.

Abbotsleigh Sports' Co-Ordinator, M. Everingham, has said
"A sport like AFL has been waiting to come along. The girls are looking forward to running around a little bit more, and from the get-go they've been looking forward to tackling. They're definitely not shy to get stuck into it".

A year 8 AF female student said, rather humourously & intriguingly
"I used to just wrestle with my brother a lot, but now I can tackle my friends".

Also, "Abbotsleigh AFL coach, B. Carlyon, said he thought the game would be huge for the girls in coming years, particularly with the emphasis on skill development".

(This comment reflects other comments by most female AF players, previously, on AF skills. Females usually say a big attraction of AF is its very complex skill requirements-having to use both HANDS and FEET, and having to use both LEFT and RIGHT hands/feet for handballing and kicking).

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/af...male-participation-jumps-20190207-p50we6.html
 
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Swans south of the harbour, Giants the greater west and a new team called "North Shore" or "North Sydney" to take over north of the harbour.
Don’t mind the vision but maybe they should make a North Sydney team for the Neafl first. Pump money through it and let it develop the game in the region and when it is ready promote the team to the AFL.

It could be good if they all played games out of secondary markets as well. So North Sydney play a few games a year in Newy, Sydney in Wollongong and GWS in Canberra
 

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Don’t mind the vision but maybe they should make a North Sydney team for the Neafl first. Pump money through it and let it develop the game in the region and when it is ready promote the team to the AFL.

It could be good if they all played games out of secondary markets as well. So North Sydney play a few games a year in Newy, Sydney in Wollongong and GWS in Canberra
That's an idea I can get behind.

Have a team playing out of North Sydney oval for a few years in NEAFL.

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That's an idea I can get behind.

Have a team playing out of North Sydney oval for a few years in NEAFL.

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Especially with the chance of Manly getting relocated, we should look to start funding a junior academy in the region and a NEAFL let them grow the sport and then when the game is ready make them a AFL side. If they never eventuate as an AFL side we are still left with a great elite talent pathway in NSW
 

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Especially with the chance of Manly getting relocated, we should look to start funding a junior academy in the region and a NEAFL let them grow the sport and then when the game is ready make them a AFL side. If they never eventuate as an AFL side we are still left with a great elite talent pathway in NSW
I've stated elsewhere that while I think less League teams in Sydney is necessary, the last time it happened the Swans went from the least popular professional club in town to the most popular.

If they start a North Sydney team in the NEAFL out of the Oval and have them playing in that getting all the academies and setup right then it'll help in the long run.

Especially if Sydney knock off manly, Cronulla and my tigers(or move them).

We should of had a 2nd Sydney team The last time League self imploded in 96.

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I've stated elsewhere that while I think less League teams in Sydney is necessary, the last time it happened the Swans went from the least popular professional club in town to the most popular.

If they start a North Sydney team in the NEAFL out of the Oval and have them playing in that getting all the academies and setup right then it'll help in the long run.

Especially if Sydney knock off manly, Cronulla and my tigers(or move them).

We should of had a 2nd Sydney team The last time League self imploded in 96.

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As much as people don’t like it Sydney is where the 19th team should be and we should learn from the mistakes of the Gold Coast when looking to set up the team.

The invent of the Gold Coast and the added money spent on junior development has seen the amount of kids involved in the game skyrocket. But that’s not really going to flow on to bigger crowds membership or support until those team kids become adults and have money to spend.

With the talk of Manly being moved it should be a sign to the AFL to start spending money growing the game in that area. There are 4 Shute Shield clubs on the North shore that have good community level support and despite not being top flight professional club. I understand the union landscape is vastly different to Aussie rules and Leauge but as an outsider it tells me that there is a community there that wants to support a team that represents them.

Also not only is there the potential disillusionment with Manly fans but there are already a lot of old North Sydney Bears fans that have been disillusioned with rugby league
 
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North shore bombers have been based in the northern area of sydney since 1903, makes sense to promote them the NEAFL and give them resources to further grow the game in that area.
 

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North shore bombers have been based in the northern area of sydney since 1903, makes sense to promote them the NEAFL and give them resources to further grow the game in that area.
Makes sense they have history and a community behind them. They will probably have to revert back to there original nickname of the Bears as long run if they were to come into the league as the Bombers it would be probabematic
 
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