A Third Team In Sydney - It's Only a Matter Of Time !!

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G. Lyon appears to disagree with your generous estimate of these 2 SCG ODI crowds. He said today on SEN Radio, re these 2 SCG cricket ODI's, & a CA match in Tasmania on 20.3.20
"I think this is the battle of the sports...They (Cricket Australia- my words) may get an A League-like awakening" ie alluding to the big fall in ratings & crowds when the A League season overlaps the AFL season.

When it was announced that CA would extend the BBL into February, some MSM commentators (including Bill Lawry) said CA was unhappy with the AFLW being played in "cricket's summer season", & the high profile/success of the AFLW. CA, therefore, was trying to curb the success of the AFLW by denying it clear media air.
Perhaps CA wants to exercise "payback" against the AFL for playing the AFLW in summer- & the almost inevitable extension of the AFLW earlier into summer, as it expands/longer H & A season. The AFLW is becoming the great "disruptor" in Australian sport.

In 2020, the AFL starts on 20.3.20. Would it be possible/safe for AFL, NRL, Super Rugby, ALeague games to be played n the SCG just before, or just after, these 2 cricket matches on 13.3 & 15.3.20?

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/05...league-like-awakening-taking-on-footy-season/
If India didn't dominate the cricket schedule, this wouldn't have happened. Sure there might be a bit of FU to the AFL by CA, but they aren't going to take 2 big drawing games to smaller cities. If in doubt, follow the $$$$$.
 

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Also keep in mind that Australia is hosting the Womens T20 World Cup in Feb-Mar 2020 so they can't play their home series then as well as the Big Bash and have the amount of grounds needed available for all three. So once the BCCI demanded that the Australian's tour India in January, middle of March was the only logical time to host NZ at home and then it came down to available grounds and the SCG Trust will never say no to Cricket.
 

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CA would be thinking 2 x 30-40k crowds at the SCG, especially if cricket fans have been "starved" of cricket because of the Indian tour. If they got the MCG they would have been happy with 1 game with a 50-60k crowd.
They won't get 30k across the 2 days. ODIs against NZ when everyone's talking footy? Be doing well to get into 5 figures IMO.
 
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They won't get 30k across the 2 days. ODIs against NZ when everyone's talking footy? Be doing well to get into 5 figures IMO.
NRL started on the 14th of March this year. Aussie Rules a week later. After a long summer, will be interesting to see just how many people do rock up across the two days. You'd imagine all the focus will be on the winter codes at that time.
 
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SMH journalist P. Fitzsimons is a former Wallaby & strong RU supporter.
On 6.12.18, he wrote, in an article on how the various sports fared in 2018

"Aussie Rules, meantime, continue to go from strength to strength and here in Sydney their rate of growth remains staggering- with more and more schools, including one time nurseries of rugby union, starting to sprout Aussie Rules goal posts".

Foxtel's recently announced a $417,000,000 loss. Due to poor ratings, it will demote some "minor" sports now deemed as "marquee sports", which will include RU. This demotion will reduce RA Broadcast $ Rights significantly.

Fitzsimons predicts, due to Super Rugby's very poor ratings & imminent loss of Rights $, an ominous scenario for RA (but suggests long term RU revival).

"The sober reality is that the income for the game is likely to diminish further...When the contracts inevitably decrease in a couple of years, the result will be that a lot of the best players will simply take the money on offer in other parts of the rugby globe".

The inevitable decline in well paid RU player positions in Australia will probably result in many NSW, ACT, & Qld. athletic teens being more attracted to AF- as it has 700+ well paid player positions in Australia.
This will be exacerbated if Foxtel decides it doesn't want Super Rugby on its cable platform at all- as its ratings are so poor.

The constellation of events, & weakening of the other 3 football codes, may soon present AF with significant opportunities for further growth in NSW, ACT, & Qld.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/marque...ig-bucks-will-save-rugby-20190515-p51npx.html
 
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SMH journalist P. Fitzsimons is a former Wallaby & strong RU supporter.
On 6.12.18, he wrote, in an article on how the various sports fared in 2018

"Aussie Rules, meantime, continue to go from strength to strength and here in Sydney their rate of growth remains staggering- with more and more schools, including one time nurseries of rugby union, starting to sprout Aussie Rules goal posts".

Foxtel's recently announced a $417,000,000 loss. Due to poor ratings, it will demote some "minor" sports now deemed as "marquee sports", which will include RU. This demotion will reduce RA Broadcast $ Rights significantly.

Fitzsimons predicts, due to Super Rugby's very poor ratings & imminent loss of Rights $, an ominous scenario for RA (but suggests long term RU revival).

"The sober reality is that the income for the game is likely to diminish further...When the contracts inevitably decrease in a couple of years, the result will be that a lot of the best players will simply take the money on offer in other parts of the rugby globe".

The inevitable decline in well paid RU player positions in Australia will probably result in many NSW, ACT, & Qld. athletic teens being more attracted to AF- as it has 700+ well paid player positions in Australia.
This will be exacerbated if Foxtel decides it doesn't want Super Rugby on its cable platform at all- as its ratings are so poor.

The constellation of events, & weakening of the other 3 football codes, may soon present AF with significant opportunities for further growth in NSW, ACT, & Qld.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/marque...ig-bucks-will-save-rugby-20190515-p51npx.html
Some Points on this topic--
First up there is no staggering growth of our game up there- What there is is steady growth from a low base and Fitzsimons tends to exaggerate all the time, usually when he is promoting his many books.
The mention our iconic Goal Posts is interesting - They standout because they are noticeable even to the casual eye as you drive past if you are not used to seeing them. AFLNSW used to publish how many Goal Post grants they dished out each year.
Where Fitzsimons is starting to sit up and take notice of our game is in his beloved Rugby heartland - The Sydney Private Schools who long blocked our game except for Riverview, who re introduced our game in circa 1948.
Some of those Private schools (Male and Female) have now accepted our sport and if they hadn`t he would be none the wiser.
Finally the growth up there is still not reflected in the TV ratings - Still a long way to go.
 

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Some Points on this topic--
First up there is no staggering growth of our game up there- What there is is steady growth from a low base and Fitzsimons tends to exaggerate all the time, usually when he is promoting his many books.
The mention our iconic Goal Posts is interesting - They standout because they are noticeable even to the casual eye as you drive past if you are not used to seeing them. AFLNSW used to publish how many Goal Post grants they dished out each year.
Where Fitzsimons is starting to sit up and take notice of our game is in his beloved Rugby heartland - The Sydney Private Schools who long blocked our game except for Riverview, who re introduced our game in circa 1948.
Some of those Private schools (Male and Female) have now accepted our sport and if they hadn`t he would be none the wiser.
Finally the growth up there is still not reflected in the TV ratings - Still a long way to go.
How do you know?

I'll go out on a limb and say people in the region would no more than people on the other side of the country.
 

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