Then why don't everybody actually talk about a 3rd team not being viable YET instead of getting all defensive over gws and posting up irrelevant population numbers? I mean if it's not now then those population numbers are irrelevant right?
A Third Team In Sydney - It's Only a Matter Of Time !!
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Then why don't everybody actually talk about a 3rd team not being viable YET instead of getting all defensive over gws and posting up irrelevant population numbers? I mean if it's not now then those population numbers are irrelevant right?
Then talk about the thread subject instead getting all defensive about gws and jr gr participation rates.
Actually talk about how viable this 3rd team is or when or if it will be instead being all reactionary about what I post.
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Wrong bridge. At least get the trolling right Wanderbaby.
Was based on the ANZAC bridge not Harbour Bridge.
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Rugby League, which has the majority of its clubs based in Sydney, just isn't growing at all whilst Rugby Union has suffered badly recently with the Israel Folau saga so it would make sense to capitalise on their current plight.
I wholeheartedly support the concept of Tasmania having its own AFL team but given that no-one really wants an odd number of clubs, strong consideration should be given to an additional club based in the Sydney metro area.
I wholeheartedly support the concept of Tasmania having its own AFL team but given that no-one really wants an odd number of clubs, strong consideration should be given to an additional club based in the Sydney metro area.
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Nah.
Way to early for a 3rd team. Only ground right now is North Sydney.
If there’s a 20th team to enter with Tas would say it would be WA3 or Canberra.
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Redevelop 'Rat Park' at Warriewood as an elite training facility and have the third team just play their home games at the SCG.
No way would a 5th side enter in the frontier states of NSW/QLD before a 5th side in the heartland states of WA/SA.
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An odd number of teams is a negative - more teams and same number of games.
An even number of teams and a Tasmanian team could mean relocation.
As for a 20th team you could mount many a varied case.
Perth - technically viable with the large population, Subiaco is strong but that is about all.
Adelaide - static population, the SANFL is strong but no real case.
Canberra - missed the boat a few times and must be a reasonable contender.
North Sydney - Swans territory.
South Sydney -Swans territory.
Eastern Suburbs - Swans territory.
Western Sydney - GWS territory.
Illawarra - even the NRL couldn't get Wollongong/St George to work, but the Wollongong Lions were a premier div side.
Newcastle - Has the population and it's own historic competition. Nobody has given it much of a shot.
| Rank | City (Significant Urban Area) | 2017 Population | 5-year growth | 5 year growth % | 1 year growth | 1 year growth % |
| 1 | Sydney | 4,741,874 | 433,750 | 10.1% | 98,079 | 2.1% |
| 2 | Melbourne | 4,677,157 | 557,346 | 13.5% | 119,975 | 2.6% |
| 3 | Brisbane | 2,326,656 | 203,040 | 9.6% | 46,366 | 2.0% |
| 4 | Perth | 2,004,696 | 141,620 | 7.6% | 19,789 | 1.0% |
| 5 | Adelaide | 1,315,346 | 55,749 | 4.4% | 9,535 | 0.7% |
| 6 | Gold Coast – Tweed Heads | 663,321 | 68,091 | 11.4% | 16,338 | 2.5% |
| 7 | Newcastle – Maitland | 481,183 | 23,063 | 5.0% | 4,529 | 1.0% |
| 8 | Canberra – Queanbeyan | 447,457 | 33,746 | 8.2% | 6,914 | 1.6% |
| 9 | Central Coast | 329,437 | 12,254 | 3.9% | 2,413 | 0.7% |
| 10 | Sunshine Coast | 325,399 | 36,616 | 12.7% | 7,995 | 2.5% |
| 11 | Wollongong | 299,203 | 15,531 | 5.5% | 3,534 | 1.2% |
| 12 | Geelong | 260,138 | 28,415 | 12.3% | 6,869 | 2.7% |
| 13 | Hobart | 208,324 | 8,743 | 4.4% | 2,227 | 1.1% |
| 14 | Townsville | 180,346 | 9,321 | 5.5% | 1,486 | 0.8% |
| 15 | Cairns | 151,925 | 9,701 | 6.8% | 1,884 | 1.3% |
| 16 | Toowoomba | 135,631 | 7,056 | 5.5% | 1,594 | 1.2% |
| 17 | Darwin | 132,708 | 12,281 | 10.2% | 663 | 0.5% |
| 18 | Ballarat | 103,481 | 8,508 | 9.0% | 1,893 | 1.9% |
| 19 | Bendigo | 97,096 | 8,148 | 9.2% | 1,509 | 1.6% |
| 20 | Albury – Wodonga | 91,923 | 6,721 | 7.9% | 1,347 | 1.5% |
| 21 | Launceston | 86,788 | 863 | 1.0% | 453 | 0.5% |
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Apart from the name, not bad. Campbelltown used to be the top team. Now Camdem is in the premier league.
Would need the government to set up a second city image.
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I accidentally stumbled across this on the Fremantle board by clicking on a BF thread suggestion. I thought I was in this thread until I read through some other posts! Anyway this post is by a Freo supporting Newcastle local, in the "Third club for Perth" thread. I'm sure he won't me pasting it here -
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WA3 is still ahead of NSW 3.
New South Wales as a state aren't that parochial about their sport. Until GWS wins a premiership or can attain crowds of constantly above 20,000, this should be a non-issue.
Can really see a WA3 side working, and would be a huge coup if it were to happen. Thinking the north of Perth , or something along the lines of a Perth Demons/East Perth Royals/West Perth Falcons alignment, something that WAFL clubs can be represented. Maybe call them the 'Perth Royal Falcons'
New South Wales as a state aren't that parochial about their sport. Until GWS wins a premiership or can attain crowds of constantly above 20,000, this should be a non-issue.
Can really see a WA3 side working, and would be a huge coup if it were to happen. Thinking the north of Perth , or something along the lines of a Perth Demons/East Perth Royals/West Perth Falcons alignment, something that WAFL clubs can be represented. Maybe call them the 'Perth Royal Falcons'
There is a separate thread for a "3rd WA Club" - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/3rd-western-australian-club.1131113/page-33
The interesting thing is that most of the opposition in the thread to the idea of a third WA club actually came from local Western Australians.
The interesting thing is that most of the opposition in the thread to the idea of a third WA club actually came from local Western Australians.
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As I see the issue is, that it’s more likely that NSW3 brings in more new fans than WA3. Thus the game can grow further
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No movement or suggestion coming from WA.
Except for Swans and Giants fans.
Until the Dockers wins a premiership, this should be a non-issue.
I don't see it working very easily and it brings zip to the AFL.
That's WCE territory - WP + EP and Eagles headquarters are at Perth Demons ground.
NOR is WCE. SOR is Dockers. The only possibility is EAST of Perth. That's from Armidale to Swan Valley.
Now, Perth Demons territory is in the East of Perth but it's homeground is south of Perth.
Swan Districts play in the North East of Perth.
East Perth plays North of Perth and it's ground is West of Perth.
West Perth plays in the North West of Perth.
Subiaco plays in West Perth in West Perth's old territory.
The only WAFL teams that make geographical sense are the Fremantle and Peel teams.
Peel struggles to support a WAFL team let alone an AFL team.
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i feel Perth is much much ahead of Sydney for a 3rd AFL side. I’d be pretty confident wherever that team would be based, they would get a minimum of 20,000 from the get go.
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Maybe, there is always questions marks, owning Docklands is another huge income stream worth literally billions.
History says if the AFL want them to stay they will pay until they pay their own way.
Please don't worry yourself petal.
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Lol keep telling yourself that.
the AFL, unlike the A-League unfortunately, know how to run a business. Despite how traditionalist whinge.
Nearly millions? Wow that’s actually good. Thought we cost much more.
Wanders lost a few million last year and we are only nearly millions.
Oh not just through the tv deal either. We actually have the 5th biggest sponsorship in the league according to Matthews.
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Can you post a link please.
It no good posters stating things like this without a link otherwise it doesn't look factual
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lol are they now. Source for this? If you dont have one, thats cool. But i think a forum ban will be in order if you cant provide one.
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The Dockers started in the low 20ks and took a decade to get to 30ks.
The Dockers picked up on the anti-Eagles brigade and were a natural foil for the other week.
A third Perth AFL team adds nothing to the AFL and detracts from the WAFL.
There is no natural or obvious grouping for a 3rd Perth AFL team. You're either Dockers or Eagles.
It not really a question of attendances.
The Gold Coast and GWS added to the AFL product.
Tasmania or Perth doesn't add to football much, it just that Tasmania deserve an AFL team.
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Yes, so they aren't costing anything are they.
Foxtel rights? Let's talk about overall media rights. Sport is the only guaranteed money earner. Sponsors and marketers know this.
The AFL unlike you a-league is going ahead, the a-league would be the one worrying.
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