So they managed to boost numbers in a regional area without putting a team there?
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So they managed to boost numbers in a regional area without putting a team there?[Incorrect. Penrith joined their neighbours- & put a "team"etc. there]
How noble of you to volunteer someone else's club for relocation.Just send North to Tassie (The Tasmanian Devils!) and be done with it it with 11 home games split between Hobart and Launceston!
The Roar is complete garbage. Exist only to get hits for wannabe sports writers and seems to rely on crap code war articles for relevance. it should ditch AFL altogether.This 25.6.20 article from a The Roar "Guru" M. Scafe argues convincingly that in Sydney, on important metrics, the AFL & GR AF is making much more progress there than GR RL & the NRL. There is some good engagement between Scarfe, & those he directly responds to in the Comments' Section.
An editor wrote the clickbait heading, which is misleading. RL leads on all current metrics in Sydney on raw nos., apart from having fewer GR female contact RL players, cf GR female AF players. However, in Sydney's NS, ES, & inner WS, GR AF regd. comp. nos. surpass GR RL contact nos.
Scafe has written about many different sports, & is interested in sports' media, broadcasting, & the business of sport.
Why the NRL can't compete with the AFL in Sydney
The popular and correct perception is that Sydney is and always will be a rugby league heartland. That may well have been the case…www.theroar.com.au
The Roar is complete garbage. Exist only to get hits for wannabe sports writers and seems to rely on crap code war articles for relevance.
Anybody good at maps - Would like to see the Sydney areas designated above as having good AR development shown on a overall Sydney map so we can get context. Anybody ???.The Roar is complete garbage. Exist only to get hits for wannabe sports writers and seems to rely on crap code war articles for relevance. it should ditch AFL altogether.
Have a crack yourself, google earth pro is a free download. Use the ruler function, select polygon, zoom in on Sydney and start drawing. No skill involved.Anybody good at maps - Would like to see the Sydney areas designated above as having good AR development shown on a overall Sydney map so we can get context. Anybody ???.
This 25.6.20 article from a The Roar "Guru" M. Scarfe argues convincingly ,
The Age 29.10.18
Only 7 clubs in the AFL have pokies now- HFC, EFC, Carlton, RFC, & StK FC; & Brisbane & Port. R. Goyder has said it is AFL preference that all AFL Clubs divest themselves of this vlie revenue.
Yep I will have a crack at it. Nothing ventured. Nothing gained.Have a crack yourself, google earth pro is a free download. Use the ruler function, select polygon, zoom in on Sydney and start drawing. No skill involved.
He really doesnt
Checked out the Forest AFL site. There are 74 grounds across Sydney ????? that are deemed suitable for Wet Weather Football on that website.1. Forrest JFC ( in Frenchs Forrest, in Sydney's NS) has U10, U12, U14, U16 & U18 girls' teams.
In its website, it states
"Girls in the Forrest...have the opportunity to get in on the ground floor, at an exciting time...with a clear pathway to a national competition (AFLW- my words & emphasis) for any girls that want to take their sport as far as possible".
Youth Girls AFL | Forest AFL
forestafl.com.au
Female club & school AF in Sydney's NS, ES, & inner WS is booming; & to a lesser extent in the WS, on a much smaller base (However, the Inner WS Clubs, even Magpies based in Croydon Park 10kms SW of CBD, are playing in the Swans-affiliated Sydney Harbour JFL- not the Giants WS jnr comp.).
Many clubs playing in the Sydney Harbour JFL express similar comments on their websites etc about the crucial importance of the AFLW, & female pathways.
Even though the Swans do not have its own AFL team, female AF is still booming in the Swans' zone.
Based on the experience in other parts of Australia, when the Swans do obtain their own AFLW team, it is virtually certain female GR AF in their Sydney zone will be further turbocharged. Local rolemodels8
For many areas of the NS & ES, it is too onerous to travel to the WS, where the Giants AFLW team & elite female snr training etc. is based.
Whilst the Swan have established jnr female Academies, even though they are having some difficulties with their facilities, when the AFLW next expands beyond 14 teams, Sydney should be the next to join (almost certainly before 2024).
Female AF GR growth in Australia would be most benefitted by Sydney having the next team- Vic. already has 8 AFLW teams.
2. Qld., in 2016, had more regd. female AF players than Vic- amazing for a RL state. From the AFLW's birth in 2017, Vic. has surpassed Qld., which is now 2nd biggest in Australia.
The link below is Part 1 of a 3 Part Series ("Women Made This Happen") which attempts, in great detail, to explain this extraordinary female phenomenon.
I am including it here, since many of the strategies expounded on would be equally beneficial for the growth of female AF in NSW & the ACT. I assume these strategies are being replicated, notwithstanding there is no AFLW team in the Swans' zone- by far the stronghold for AF in Sydney.
(See my post#368)Footy Developments in NSW and Queensland
1. "Although rugby league still rules the roost in Qld. & NSW, the AFL is making up ground. There were 383,000 fans who tuned into the AFL Grand Final in Brisbane- the highest audience since 2004" (when Brisbane were last in the GF). "The overall Qld. average audience was 523,000,up 22% on last...www.bigfooty.com
There are 74 grounds across Sydney ????? that are deemed suitable for Wet Weather Football on that website.
Does that mean there are other grounds available suitable for dry weather football only as well. If so that would that mean that new found doors are being opened up there to our game.
The ACT is simply too large a market to only have 3 AFL comp. games pa over the medium to long term.
This large & rapidly growing population makes it very likely, IMO, that there will be a combined South Sydney Canberra team some time c. 2035.
GWS will become Western Sydney, & share the Riverina with the new SS Canberra Club (playing games in Campbelltown? & Canberra; & Melb. Clubs to sell Away games in Wollongong).
I doubt the ACT could find sufficient private sponsorship & govt. funds to afford, & be granted its own Club, playing 11 home games only in Canberra. 6/5 split.
Would the Can-SS team have a Canberra or SS name? Canberrans are used to supporting a Sydney team, so it wouldn't be too much of a shift [Agree], but we would still not get a lot of local media.[If called South Sydney Canberra 'Burras, why not?]
I can't imagine Sydneysiders in Campbelltown going for a Canberra team with a Western Sydney team right [?] there. [Campbelltown is 43kms from Homebush, a 40 min.+ drive- much more if using PT] Might be more willing for a southern split with Wollongong like the Dragons in the NRL [Yes. St George Illawarra works well].
This is a question for Canberra Pear - What is the all important newspaper and TV media coverage like in the ACT - Does it favour RL or our game.From Canberra Pear, who said, re July 2020 GR re-start
"Even without a full time local team, & the media saturation which follows, footy's participation is showing up League. There are 31 men's footy teams in the Canberra Region (ACTAFL comp. includes bordering NSW towns of Queanbeyan, Goulburn, Yass etc) not including another 7 Rising Star (U19) teams (ie total 38 snr AF teams- my words in brackets).
In comparison, there are 12 men's RL teams in the Canberra region, with only half these actually in the ACT".
(Scroll down to post#245).Footy Developments in NSW and Queensland
NRL is no.1 code in part of country with over 50% of population. But in the other 50% of the nation it hardly exists whereas the AFL has penetrated the northern states way better and are growing their base year on year! If RL is such a great game how come they don't have another team in...www.bigfooty.com
After Tas. becomes the 19th team, the strong GR AF growth in the ACT, together with its large & rapidly growing population, increases greatly the chances for an eventful South Sydney Canberra FC (Kooka-'burras?) 20th team (after GWS regularly has lockout crowds at Giants' Stadium- after 2030?).
This is a question for Canberra Pear - What is the all important newspaper and TV media coverage like in the ACT - Does it favour RL or our game.
From Canberra Pear, who said, re July 2020 GR re-start
"Even without a full time local team, & the media saturation which follows, footy's participation is showing up League. There are 31 men's footy teams in the Canberra Region (ACTAFL comp. includes bordering NSW towns of Queanbeyan, Goulburn, Yass etc) not including another 7 Rising Star (U19) teams (ie total 38 snr AF teams- my words in brackets).
In comparison, there are 12 men's RL teams in the Canberra region, with only half these actually in the ACT".
(Scroll down to post#245).Footy Developments in NSW and Queensland
NRL is no.1 code in part of country with over 50% of population. But in the other 50% of the nation it hardly exists whereas the AFL has penetrated the northern states way better and are growing their base year on year! If RL is such a great game how come they don't have another team in...www.bigfooty.com
After Tas. becomes the 19th team, the strong GR AF growth in the ACT, together with its large & rapidly growing population, increases greatly the chances for an eventful South Sydney Canberra FC (Kooka-'burras?) 20th team (after GWS regularly has lockout crowds at Giants' Stadium- after 2030?).
Move gws to Canberra - regular season home crowds are big there anyway