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Aaron Naughton or Oscar Allen
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Naughton spent his entire first season playing in defense. Why do you Eagles keep on ignoring that while talking up Allen playing in multiple positions?
Okay, I didn't know that. Please accept my deepest apologies.
He came 4th in our BnF the year he spent at CHB. Has has a couple of injury interupted years since and this is his first full pre season and full season as a forward. Flying at the minute. Just needs to nail a few more easy shots.
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At this point in time considering injuries, experience, size and how good and bad each players respective teams are, it is unequivocally Oscar Allen who is the better player.
Is that what an Eagles supporters life is like atm? Lurking old threads to make the season relevant. Nobody would take Allen over naughton cause he's missed years of football. Naughton is durable and a game changer. Allen has played 8 games of decent footy in 2.5 years.
Good call on we Eagles fans.
As for Oscar other than missing 2022 completely, & he's getting back to his best this season, slowly but surely. He's a key position player who can ruck.
Naughton was a great get for the Dogs, as is English.
Allen is a great player don't get me wrong but Naughton has had a far better career so far it isn't a debate. Hope Allen keeps on the park you guys deserve to have 1 shining light to watch
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Naughton a better forward, Allen plays the forward/ruck role well, nearly as good as Rory Lobb but not quite yet, plenty of improvement left in Allen though.
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You saying Lobb is better than Allen? Not a chance....if Allen was in a team in the top 12 he'd be close to leading the Coleman
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I’m saying if you’re calling Allen a forward ruck, he’s behind Lobb in that role, if you’re calling Allen a forward he’s behind Naughton in that role.
All three have fairly similar winning percentages throughout their careers, so not sure the top 12 argument is worth having.
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It is when we're talking 2023, not 2019
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Yeah I’m happy to admit Oscar Allen is having a better 2023 than Aaron Naughton but nine rounds doesn’t make one player better than another.
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Maybe Naughton and Allen is a tight race, but Allen is definitely a) a better current player than Lobb and b) will only increase his superiority over Lobb over the next 2-3 years
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Oscar Allen by an absolute mile lol
Allen 91 goals in 69 games Naughton 161 goals in 110 games (18 of which were as a defender) please tell me how its Allen by an absolute mile?
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1. Naughton has been playing with a much better team who get the ball down to him much more frequently and plays as the number 1 target
2. Allen was playing in Kennedy and Darling's shadow and not getting to show his potential
3. Allen has been riddled with injuries
4. I feel like this is the only season where we can get a gauge on the comparison. Allen better in every category, whilst playing for the worst team in the league
5. Allen much more versatile, can even go into the ruck
Naughton is an overrated player.
Since drafted Naughtons teams have finished 13th/7th/7th/5th/8th Allens have finished 2nd/5th/5th/9th/17th (17th he played 0 games) so point 1 debunked
Naughton in turn plays on the best defender each week Oscar has been getting a mid sized 3rd
How does being riddled with injuries become a positive? You'd be picking Naughton on his durability alone
You've just contradicted your first point Allen is the only target Naughton has Lobb/Ugle-Hagan
Naughton has 14 hitouts this year Allen has 1
Suggest you do a tiny bit of research and try to formulate a genuine argument.
Not sure you can be overrated kicking 48 and 51 goals as a 21 and 22 year old whilst being on track for another 50 goal season again but hey you do you
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Clearly it's Naughton fairly comfortably now, unfortunately Oscar Allen has had 2 plus years of footy pretty much decimated with injury.
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Allen was playing a lot of ruck when Kennedy and Darling were in the team. His goals stats are skewered as a result, plus playing with two powerhouse forwards up until this year. The only reason Allen only has 1 hitout this year is because he hasn't been rucking, not too hard to fathom given Bailey Williams and Jamieson have been doing a lot of that. In years prior Allen was averaging over 50 hitouts a season.
Allen has only been the "only" (which is not true as Darling and Waterman have been playing) target this year because Kennedy has retired.
Right now, I'd be picking Allen. 100%. Allen is only just showing us what he's capable of as a forward. 30 goals to Naughton's 20 whilst playing for one of the worst teams to ever grace the league is pretty impressive. Imagine if he was in a genuine side, such as the the Bulldogs.
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Look at the post above yours....
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1. Naughton and Allen almost have an identical winning percentage.
2. Naughton hasn’t been the only forward in our forward line either
3. So? Is he injury prone then? If that’s a factor surely the points go to Naughton there.
4. That’s convenient.
5. Naughton finished top five in the best and fairest in his first year as a key defender and is regularly swung back at the end of close games. Ask anyone if they’d rather a forward who can go down back or a forward that can ruck.
He doesn't have the same footy nous as Allen.
Allen will eventually drift all around the ground as he has a better skill-set. A pure footballer.
Hope he stays healthy because he has so much upside in his game.
