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indy nile said:
This kind of thing is way short of what Tebow was doing before he became irrelevant. As long as GAJ doesn't start thanking Jesus for winning games I don't have a problem
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I always think thanking God for winning games has validity so long as you always swear at God for losing games.
 
It ain't private if it's on twitter.
I'd be happy to see the AFL make it clear their is no place for religious statements of any kind inside footy.
He and anyone else for that matter can do whatever they like on their own time even tweet their buttocks.
 
Everyone remember GF Shaun Hart on his knees after the siren in the born again 'praise the lord' arms routine?

What about those idiot Brazilian world cup players with their Jesus t-shirts?

#### that. Keep your Jesus crap at home and don't bring it to the playing field or the bloody changrooms for that matter.

I mean FFS, does praying before, during and after a game help anything? What's wrong with doing it at home before you leave for the ground?

Tebow looked ridiculous praying on the sidelines. Plenty of NFL Jesus freaks playing the game who don't feel the need to break out in prayer during a football game.

Attention seeking bullshit it is.
 

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nerRADIAN said:
Bachar Houli is praised for embracing his religion publicly and is known to prey before match day, albeit to a different god. I'm glad they're not on the same team.
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In the interest of good inter-faith relations you might want to double-check your spelling on this one.
 
SHAKESPEARE said:
Why pray when he could just call his father? The lord and saviour god himself.
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Yeah, a lot of good it did the old man.

Look at him now. A recluse who lives the life of a...what ever he does.

Maybe little Gaz is praying he doesn't end up nutty like his brother and his dad.

And I won't even mention the drugs and hotel rooms.

In fact, I wouldn't blame Gaz in praying for serenity from the family troubles he's had to deal with over the years. They probably have caused him to have many sleepless nights of worry and confusion.
 
Why does anybody care what he believes? And he should be allowed to post whatever he wants on that waste of a site. It's called freedom of expression.

And no, I don't think we're going to see Ablett praying on the sidelines. Even if he decided to do that, there'd still be nothing wrong with it. If we all thought the same thing and held the same beliefs this world would be a really ****ing boring place.
 

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CAS79 said:
I wish you would say more because I don't understand your point. Can you expand it on it?
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I'll probably get modded at some stage for this but...

Religion is a mode of thinking. In my opinion, it's a form of insanity. Answer unanswerable, infinitely complex questions with very simple human answers - "why, an infinitely complex being who just kind of does everything and is everything and yes"

Most importantly, it presents an otherwise good, level person with an irrational set of baseline existential assumptions that form very outer boundaries of the consciousness. Meaning, a religious person is indistinguishable in the rationalism of their thinking from another person - until you question them on something that intersects with a religious assumption. They'll make a statement like "god is loving", but they will not think critically about god as a valid/invalid concept. They will think critically about the nature of god, and/or why he/she/it operates this way or that. But the assumption is that god exists. Religion works on the basis that you spend your existence making sense of and finding answers to step 2 and beyond, taking step 1 as a given. In this way critical thinking is discouraged in all religions. This is a requirement for religion to exist. You are not allowed access into the mormon temple for instance without agreeing not to have contact with people who have views contrary to the church. Aaah, I can hear the "conventional" Christians letting off repugnant snorts. Your book is older. There is no more evidence for your fundamentals.

This line of thinking also has inextricable capacity for destruction, because it has the unique capacity to bring hurt from the hands of good people. Kill your son Abraham. "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

To make my point - catholicism goes to AIDS-ridden Africa and tells people contraception is evil. The inquisition. The world trade centres. Religion by nature imposes itself on others. It masquerades at street level as a harmless, nay enriching personal choice. Religious thought is anything but that.
 
SBD Gonzalez said:
I always think thanking God for winning games has validity so long as you always swear at God for losing games.
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I know I did on Friday night
 
BuddyGlove said:
Why does anybody care what he believes? And he should be allowed to post whatever he wants on that waste of a site. It's called freedom of expression.

And no, I don't think we're going to see Ablett praying on the sidelines. Even if he decided to do that, there'd still be nothing wrong with it. If we all thought the same thing and held the same beliefs this world would be a really ******* boring place.
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Yes there ####ing well is a lot wrong with it.

It's selfish. It's making your team mates feel uncomfortable (even thought they would never admit it) and again...what's wrong with saying a prayer at home before you leave?

Is there some benefit doing it just before the game starts?

Does that make it more...effective praying?

Attention seeking rubbish. Run out, play the game and then run down to the closest Hill Song church and belt out a few tunes all you like.

But don't bring to the ground with all the TV cameras on you.

Turn it ####ing up ffs!!!:rolleyes:
 
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I'll probably get modded at some stage for this but...

Religion is a mode of thinking. In my opinion, it's a form of insanity. Answer unanswerable, infinitely complex questions with very simple human answers - "why, an infinitely complex being who just kind of does everything and is everything and yes"

Most importantly, it presents an otherwise good, level person with an irrational set of baseline existential assumptions that form very outer boundaries of the consciousness. Meaning, a religious person is indistinguishable in the rationalism of their thinking from another person - until you question them on something that intersects with a religious assumption. They'll make a statement like "god is loving", but they will not think critically about god as a valid/invalid concept. They will think critically about the nature of god, and/or why he/she/it operates this way or that. But the assumption is that god exists. Religion works on the basis that you spend your existence making sense of and finding answers to step 2 and beyond, taking step 1 as a given. In this way critical thinking is discouraged in all religions. This is a requirement for religion to exist. You are not allowed access into the mormon temple for instance without agreeing not to have contact with people who have views contrary to the church. Aaah, I can hear the "conventional" Christians letting off repugnant snorts. Your book is older. There is no more evidence for your fundamentals.

This line of thinking also has inextricable capacity for destruction, because it has the unique capacity to bring hurt from the hands of good people. Kill your son Abraham. "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

To make my point - catholicism goes to AIDS-ridden Africa and tells people contraception is evil. The inquisition. The world trade centres. Religion by nature imposes itself on others. It masquerades at street level as a harmless, nay enriching personal choice. Religious thought is anything but that.
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Thankyou for expanding, I will stick to your last point about personal choice and while not disagreeing religion crosses that line frequently, I will say if I thought Ablett had stepped into cajoling others to religion through a football club I would condemn. But I cant see it in this case.
 
Anyway, I'll wait to see what Robbo says about it all.

HE will lead us down the right path.

True Gods do that you know.
 

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TheBrownDog said:
Because of less belief in sky fairies?

Yeah... weird...
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The fact that we let something like a relatively personal belief, which the footballer is hardly trying to mass expose, leads to comments like 'genuinely disappointed'.

As if people deserved to have an actual opinion about him in the first place is beyond the point, using it as a reason to dislike him is just weird. Almost as weird as how Americans treat the reversed situation (Where to be ungracious religiously is an affront seemingly at times).
 
Shane Hird said:
Yes there ####ing well is a lot wrong with it.

It's selfish. It's making your team mates feel uncomfortable (even thought they would never admit it) and again...what's wrong with saying a prayer at home before you leave?

Is there some benefit doing it just before the game starts?

Does that make it more...effective praying?

Attention seeking rubbish. Run out, play the game and then run down to the closest Hill Song church and belt out a few tunes all you like.

But don't bring to the ground with all the TV cameras on you.

Turn it ####ing up ffs!!!:rolleyes:
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Suppose we'll have to agree to disagree then. I really don't see how this small act is as harmful as you suggest.

For what it's worth I am in no way religious, I'm just of the opinion that it's a basic human right to express yourself freely without persecution. What you've just posted goes directly against that. Good luck with that whole negative outlook thing, though.
 
Shane Hird said:
Yes there ####ing well is a lot wrong with it.

It's selfish. It's making your team mates feel uncomfortable (even thought they would never admit it) and again...what's wrong with saying a prayer at home before you leave?

Is there some benefit doing it just before the game starts?

Does that make it more...effective praying?

Attention seeking rubbish. Run out, play the game and then run down to the closest Hill Song church and belt out a few tunes all you like.

But don't bring to the ground with all the TV cameras on you.

Turn it ####ing up ffs!!!:rolleyes:
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Many players will have pre-game rituals/superstitions. If praying is one of GAJ's then so what?
 
TheSheik said:
Who gives a shit what religion he practices and how he wants to adapt it to his pre-game preparation ??

Seriously, it's such a non-issue its bordering on henpecking to be discussing it here.

Move on FFS.
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this :thumbsu:

Plus it will turn into a completely non-related religion dummy spit circular argument which has absolutely nothing to do with football and is frankly boring as shit.
 
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