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A very warped attitude we have in place. You can see it filtering all the way through to the family courts. No matter how responsible the man, we still think that an irresponsible womans judgement should be put before it.
A very warped attitude we have in place. You can see it filtering all the way through to the family courts. No matter how responsible the man, we still think that an irresponsible womans judgement should be put before it.
How do you come to that conclusion. Why is a woman who seeks an abortion irresponsible?
If anything they acknowledge they haven't the financial, physical, emotional or mental resources to cope with the responsibility of parenthood I'd say they are making a difficult yet responsible choice.
If we have abortion, then someone needs to make the decision.
Sure, in a perfect world, everyone with a stake in it would get a vote, the size of which varies with their personal involvement, adjusted for the individual involved, but that would be ridiculously difficult to impliment and unfair on the mother if she was outvoted (do we then force her to eat the perfect baby diet, and live the 'right' lifestyle?).
But in the real world, it's simplified down to the person who usually has the biggest stake makes the call, and that's the mother.
Maybe because if you ****, you can get pregnant. I thought we all knew that? Imagine wanting to kill something because you got pissed and knocked up(yes, that does happen a lot in our society).
It's actually quite easy not to get knocked up. Are we dealing with a lot of halfwits then?
You can send it to one of those nice church runYes it is easy not to get knocked up. Yet contraception fails sometimes so what then? As for your comment about wanting to kill something. I don't consider abortion murder. So what is the alternative, force an unwanted pregnancy and child on someone who doesn't want it and is ill equipped for it.
Yes it is easy not to get knocked up. Yet contraception fails sometimes so what then? As for your comment about wanting to kill something. I don't consider abortion murder. So what is the alternative, force an unwanted pregnancy and child on someone who doesn't want it and is ill equipped for it.
Agreed. Two people are responsible for the creation of life. If both agree it's not for them, then no issues with it.
The biggest at stake in the affair is the foetus. It would be unfair to terminate it if there was one parent who was happy for it to brought into the world and cared for.
So, woman walks into a clinic and says "The father was one of the bunch of guys I shagged that week, don't remember their names."
Sure, it's probably a lie, but what do you do then?
Having abortion allowed means the foetuses rights are deemed inconsequential.
Spey her.
True enough, that's the kinds of Syds mindset that we live among our society these days though.
If both people involved do not want the child then no issues with an abortion.
It's different when one person is willing to care and provide for the child and another wants to terminate it.
Thanks for the "label" but you are wrong! I worked with females in the 80" and 90's and saw the anguish, pain, humiliation and depression that many went through. I also saw many females that carried the pregnancy to full term and finally give the child up (some aged 14/15) because they were forced to carry the pregnancy. I saw the affect to this as well.What a load of feminist bullshit. Like a father doesn't feel as much pain at the loss of a child be it born or unborn. Imagine being the kind of Syd who spins the "oh you're not a female so you wouldn't understand line".
Thanks for the "label" but you are wrong! I worked with females in the 80" and 90's and saw the anguish, pain, humiliation and depression that many went through. I also saw many females that carried the pregnancy to full term and finally give the child up (some aged 14/15) because they were forced to carry the pregnancy. I saw the affect to this as well.
I also believe that most females are well informed and would not make a decision to terminate lightly.
That has absolutely nothing at all to do with what the male feels. Funny how men can't have an opinion on what women feel but women are always quick to dismiss what a man feels as if they know.
That has absolutely nothing at all to do with what the male feels. Funny how men can't have an opinion on what women feel but women are always quick to dismiss what a man feels as if they know.
Gus Poyet hates women.
I believe the individual Doctor is completely within his/her rights to refuse to perform and abortion.I can't handle the concept of doctors arguing for a conscience vote of whether they want to do parts their job. They are either doctors or not.
"Frankston MP Geoff Shaw says overhauling Victoria's abortion laws has nothing to do with women's reproductive rights and is about doctors being able to follow their consciences."
Thoughts? Are doctors there to do their job or to discriminate against people in their hour of need?
In Canberra we have a Private Catholic Hospital which contract Public Hospital Services.I would argue that a great many hospitals do indeed have the right to impose their moral beliefs upon their employees conduct.
Do you really think private Catholic hospitals will want their staff encouraging abortions let alone forcing their own staff to support them if they do not morally agree with the practice?
A Dr from St Vincents and Mercy hospital should have every right to refuse any action to do with an abortion.
While I agree in principal there is the reality that only one of the parents. takes the risks of carrying and delivering the prospective baby.If both people involved do not want the child then no issues with an abortion.
It's different when one person is willing to care and provide for the child and another wants to terminate it.
While I agree in principal there is the reality that only one of the parents. takes the risks of carrying and delivering the prospective baby.
There is also the very real likelihood that a father willing to take on the responsibility at a point in time when the prospective child is for all intents and purposes an unknown "novelty" hidden away deep in a womb, in someone else will walk away after the reality of the decision comes to bear.
It is no easy issue.