Traded Adam Cerra traded to Carlton for pick #6 and F3

[gawndog37]

Players need to agree to being traded mate you can’t just trade them if they are contracted

Not really sure who your referring to in the hypothetical? All of the players I mentioned are out of contract, thus if they request a trade they'll nominate a club and that club will have the leverage because they are out of contract.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Cerra has integrity just like Judd who didn’t want West Coast to get rimmed.

Cerra will decide what the best fit for him which includes a club having enough assets to get the trade done.

*reamed

Rimmed… something else

 

[Rob R]

Think we have a good long-term relationship together, you don't seem to dick us around as other Victorian clubs do. Last year we had a strong interest in MacDonald but think his salary was the stumbling block so we went Pruess. This year

GWS - 13
MFC - Weiderman & 42 knowing also you might grab Buntine (ex-Dandy boy) and generate another pick for us.


That then gives you 13 & you retain your 2022 1st

No-one is giving a first rounder for Weiderman especially GWS, late 2nd at best.

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[perplexed]

I think that if he nominates North it will force the AFL's hand to give us a priority mid-round pick to trade for him. Otherwise it's either hand over a current and future second or go to the PSD, which nobody wants, even though it would pretty much equalise things.

 

[boncer34]

I think that if he nominates North it will force the AFL's hand to give us a priority mid-round pick to trade for him. Otherwise it's either hand over a current and future second or go to the PSD, which nobody wants, even though it would pretty much equalise things.

Is there any noise around North and Cerra?

 

[james Dean]

I think that if he nominates North it will force the AFL's hand to give us a priority mid-round pick to trade for him. Otherwise it's either hand over a current and future second or go to the PSD, which nobody wants, even though it would pretty much equalise things.

You aren’t getting a priority pick after one bad season.

 

[Purple Suit]

I think that if he nominates North it will force the AFL's hand to give us a priority mid-round pick to trade for him. Otherwise it's either hand over a current and future second or go to the PSD, which nobody wants, even though it would pretty much equalise things.

I support the AFL awarding priority picks so Freo gets Overs.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think that if he nominates North it will force the AFL's hand to give us a priority mid-round pick to trade for him. Otherwise it's either hand over a current and future second or go to the PSD, which nobody wants, even though it would pretty much equalise things.

None of the things you said are happening

 

[LeverPuller]

I'm not saying it can't get done, that was apart of Jon Ralphs report. Melbourne can definitely pay the price somehow. I would still like to see my boys take a punt for Cerra but all signs point to us grabbing Narkle and hitting the draft

I mean I think this is a good move for you guys with Astbury going. A development defender to be ready for Grimes retiring and an inside wrecking ball should be top of mind.

 

[citizen-erased]

Melbourne have some cheap trading cards; pick 33, 42, 52, future 1st, Weideman.

Not to mention an ace (Jackson) if he requests a trade. They wouldn’t let him go unless he asks to go Though.

Some clubs want points; Collingwood, Western Bulldogs.

I’m sure Melbourne will find a way if he nominates them. It will need to be inventive though.

Dees are good at getting deals over the line.
I can't remember the last target they missed.

 

[perplexed]

Is there any noise around North and Cerra?

None at all. I don't think we'd take take him unless he payed his own way.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

You aren’t getting a priority pick after one bad season.

Crazy to think we won more games this season than last season.

 

[Glek]

No-one is giving a first rounder for Weiderman especially GWS, late 2nd at best.

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Yeah think thats consensus

GWS - 13 & 50
Melbourne - Weiderman 33 & 42 values Weiderman at pick 35 (not bad for a former 1st rounder who cant get a game in a top side - but could play Ruck/forward) plus we dump the pick closest to Fahey ie Swans at 12 and we use 33 & 42, so in reality we get MFC to pay for Fahey at pick 50. If Fahey goes later than 12 even better we have 33 & 42 to trade on the night. Pick 13 is hit and miss here is our chance to get overs, ready made player, 25ish, yeah ok the kids at 13 might be better but how long will it take? We need to find a way cheaply to get a ready made forward ruck assistance.

 

[Lore]

Yeah think thats consensus

GWS - 13 & 50
Melbourne - Weiderman 33 & 42 values Weiderman at pick 35 (not bad for a former 1st rounder who cant get a game in a top side - but could play Ruck/forward) plus we dump the pick closest to Fahey ie Swans at 12 and we use 33 & 42, so in reality we get MFC to pay for Fahey at pick 50. If Fahey goes later than 12 even better we have 33 & 42 to trade on the night. Pick 13 is hit and miss here is our chance to get overs, ready made player, 25ish, yeah ok the kids at 13 might be better but how long will it take? We need to find a way cheaply to get a ready made forward ruck assistance.

I reckon we need to get back to talking meaningfully about Cerra in this thread.

If you'd like to continue discussing a potential trade for Weideman, I suggest you make a separate thread for it.

 

[calman]

It will come down to who cerra nomiates as to how well freo do
We have a compromised hybrid trading/free system , where players seem to have the most power
AFL will bend over backwards to keep players happy an lean on clubs to make it happen
Anyone want to argue the AFL is NOT corrupt when it comes to massaging negotiations to get its preferred outcome on any issue, not just trading

Whatever club he goes to will be top 10 pick, plus a sweetener
Freo wont accept anything less
Future first rounders

Cerra nominatign clubs in order of draft picks

North
The worst possible choice for freo, freo want a top 10 pick, north aint giving up pick 1 or including it any trade deal scenario
with pick 1 in the PSD, the only club who are able to use this threat, ie freo, here is a second round pick or PSD
if any other club uses PSD, north would snap him up in a heartbeat

Collingwood
Salary cap too tight, evidenced by fire sale last year to give cerra money he is after
need points for that daicos kid and rebuild
with earliest pick at 34, cant see freo being happy with anythign offered
pies got burned last year tradign away this years pick 2 to GWS

Gold coast
Cerra want to go to victoria , rules out gold coast.
Possibly could trade thier first round for ready made A grader from a top 8 club, which could open it up for one of the top 8 clubs
or just keep addign a grade talent

Adelaide
Cerra want to go to victoria , rules out adelaide
Adelaide still in rebuilding phase, so will want to add a top grade pl;ayer with pick 4

Hawthorn
Definate possibility
Vic club in a rebuild with cap space, age 22 , he fits the profile
Whether cerra wants to go to a club startiing its rebuild would be the question

Carlton
Even though I am a carlton supporter, seems the most likely
club looking to play finals next year, so pick 6 is tradeable
Victorian club
Cap space may be an issue, but carlton have front loaded contracts in the last few years
even if he just gets the betts,murphy and casboult contract combined it , should be enough
No coach at this stage and internal issues, may be a red flag for cerra

Richmond
Another definate possibility if cerra wants to go there in the twilight of thier flag window, not shut yet, but closer to the end than the start
has the picks to get the deal done
A victorian club with cap space
Depends if richmond want to go down a mini rebuild or the top up path to try and pinch another flag
as thier guns are starting to age
( hawthorn and geelong both tried the top up route and it seems to have failed)

 

[manang magoos]

Umm, He's been reading all the reports that he would prefer to go to Melbourne over Carlton.

Might want to go back and read the last 3 pages of the thread

So this thread is the be all and end all

please

 

[juss]

It will come down to who cerra nomiates as to how well freo do
We have a compromised hybrid trading/free system , where players seem to have the most power
AFL will bend over backwards to keep players happy an lean on clubs to make it happen
Anyone want to argue the AFL is NOT corrupt when it comes to massaging negotiations to get its preferred outcome on any issue, not just trading

Whatever club he goes to will be top 10 pick, plus a sweetener
Freo wont accept anything less
Future first rounders

Cerra nominatign clubs in order of draft picks

North
The worst possible choice for freo, freo want a top 10 pick, north aint giving up pick 1 or including it any trade deal scenario
with pick 1 in the PSD, the only club who are able to use this threat, ie freo, here is a second round pick or PSD
if any other club uses PSD, north would snap him up in a heartbeat

Collingwood
Salary cap too tight, evidenced by fire sale last year to give cerra money he is after
need points for that daicos kid and rebuild
with earliest pick at 34, cant see freo being happy with anythign offered
pies got burned last year tradign away this years pick 2 to GWS

Gold coast
Cerra want to go to victoria , rules out gold coast.
Possibly could trade thier first round for ready made A grader from a top 8 club, which could open it up for one of the top 8 clubs
or just keep addign a grade talent

Adelaide
Cerra want to go to victoria , rules out adelaide
Adelaide still in rebuilding phase, so will want to add a top grade pl;ayer with pick 4

Hawthorn
Definate possibility
Vic club in a rebuild with cap space, age 22 , he fits the profile
Whether cerra wants to go to a club startiing its rebuild would be the question

Carlton
Even though I am a carlton supporter, seems the most likely
club looking to play finals next year, so pick 6 is tradeable
Victorian club
Cap space may be an issue, but carlton have front loaded contracts in the last few years
even if he just gets the betts,murphy and casboult contract combined it , should be enough
No coach at this stage and internal issues, may be a red flag for cerra

Richmond
Another definate possibility if cerra wants to go there in the twilight of thier flag window, not shut yet, but closer to the end than the start
has the picks to get the deal done
A victorian club with cap space
Depends if richmond want to go down a mini rebuild or the top up path to try and pinch another flag
as thier guns are starting to age
( hawthorn and geelong both tried the top up route and it seems to have failed)

Carlton will be absolutely desperate to play finals next year after announcing they believe they are good enough and sacking Teague for not getting them there.

Cerra is a play that provides an immediate boost to get them there, but also will be around for another 10 years. I reckon they are the team that would give Freo and Cerra whatever they/he wants to get him over. If one club is going to overpay Freo or Cerra himself, it'll be Carlton.

 

[Lore]

Umm, what the hell have you been reading, all the media and journos have been saying Cerra will end up at Carlton , with pick 6 part of the deal.

Umm, He's been reading all the reports that he would prefer to go to Melbourne over Carlton.

Might want to go back and read the last 3 pages of the thread

So this thread is the be all and end all

please

Knowing what is being discussed in a thread is pretty close to the be all and end all if you’re planning to participate in it, yes.

Carlton does appear to be in the box seat given no other club really ticks all the boxes: needs him, can afford him (picks & cash), or is in an attractive phase of their rebuild.

The reality is that Cerra officially nominated a state, not a club, it’s not a done deal to Carlton.

The media reports say he is meeting with multiple clubs including Melbourne, not just Carlton. In fact that’s the most recent trade talk on both the AFL website and FoxFooty;

Big guns ‘keen’ on Dockers star — but huge roadblock stands in the way: AFL Trade Whispers

Big guns ‘keen’ on Dockers star — but huge roadblock stands in the way: AFL Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

Hawk hits trigger, Butters in talks, where's the decathlete's deal?

All the latest trade and free agency news as the Trade Period edges closer

www.afl.com.au

If he preferred Carlton or had no preference (in which case Carlton is easier for Freo) there’s no reason not to have nominated Carlton already, and the longer he takes the more people will speculate as to the reasons for it.

 

[JXB]

So this thread is the be all and end all

please

Just a quick video for you to watch if you want to see the media reports I'm talking about

Why Dees can’t get Cerra

AFL: Jon Ralph has the details on Adam Cerra's bid to be traded to a Victorian club, suggesting he'd prefer to join Melbourne but appears far more likely to be a Blue.

www.news.com.au

The thread is not the be-all and end-all, but it's discussing all the media reports coming out that he would prefer to go to Melbourne

I'm also just responding to the bloke that thinks Cerra agreed to go to Carlton a couple of months ago. Just letting him know that he's very far from the truth

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Well

Just a quick video for you to watch if you want to see the media reports I'm talking about

Why Dees can’t get Cerra

AFL: Jon Ralph has the details on Adam Cerra's bid to be traded to a Victorian club, suggesting he'd prefer to join Melbourne but appears far more likely to be a Blue.

www.news.com.au

The thread is not the be-all and end-all, but it's discussing all the media reports coming out that he would prefer to go to Melbourne

I'm also just responding to the bloke that thinks Cerra agreed to go to Carlton a couple of months ago. Just letting him know that he's very far from the truth

Well that is fair enough.

Unfortunately the trade system is set up as such that a team that makes the top 4 like The Dees probably are not in a position to trade for someone like Cerra, given their lack of draft capital.

Cerra would probably know this too, even if he prefers to go the Dess.

Now assuming you right about that, can't blame.Melbourne for having a crack, but let's also
consider Fremantle and their needs also have to satisfied, which is why it does seem likely/probable he ends up at Carlton.

You guys are two wins away from a flag anyway (honestly been cheating for The Dees all finals so far), and your list age and demographic seems set up for a solid flag challenge for at least the next 7 or 8 years with or without Cerra anyway, so I wouldn't stress if you don't get him.

 

[Glek]

Knowing what is being discussed in a thread is pretty close to the be all and end all if you’re planning to participate in it, yes.

Carlton does appear to be in the box seat given no other club really ticks all the boxes: needs him, can afford him (picks & cash), or is in an attractive phase of their rebuild.

The reality is that Cerra officially nominated a state, not a club, it’s not a done deal to Carlton.

The media reports say he is meeting with multiple clubs including Melbourne, not just Carlton. In fact that’s the most recent trade talk on both the AFL website and FoxFooty;

Big guns ‘keen’ on Dockers star — but huge roadblock stands in the way: AFL Trade Whispers

Big guns ‘keen’ on Dockers star — but huge roadblock stands in the way: AFL Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

Hawk hits trigger, Butters in talks, where's the decathlete's deal?

All the latest trade and free agency news as the Trade Period edges closer

www.afl.com.au

If he preferred Carlton or had no preference (in which case Carlton is easier for Freo) there’s no reason not to have nominated Carlton already, and the longer he takes the more people will speculate as to the reasons for it.

With all due respect some are over valuing the media guessing game - Jon Ralph is only stating an opinion.

Cerra is a professional footballer and has the right to choose the employer of his choice. Might not suit some supporters and their some what one-eyed views.

I'm amazed at some supporters hypocrisy - the Cerra thread and the Neale thread are classic examples.

Time to respect all players from all clubs, let them get on with their lives and stop treating them like pieces of meat. Time for some supporters to grow up and treat all players with some respect irrespective what colours he or she wears.

Let the boy choose what is best for him, let the clubs then sit down like grown adults and work it out, some you win some you lose, what goes around comes around.

All I said was I think Melbourne are further down the path than many think. I'm sure as a club we Giants will do our best to help, assuming the deal is fair for us. Melbourne never dick us around.

 

[WilloTree]

I think that if he nominates North it will force the AFL's hand to give us a priority mid-round pick to trade for him. Otherwise it's either hand over a current and future second or go to the PSD, which nobody wants, even though it would pretty much equalise things.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

With all due respect some are over valuing the media guessing game - Jon Ralph is only stating an opinion.

Cerra is a professional footballer and has the right to choose the employer of his choice. Might not suit some supporters and their some what one-eyed views.

I'm amazed at some supporters hypocrisy - the Cerra thread and the Neale thread are classic examples.

Time to respect all players from all clubs, let them get on with their lives and stop treating them like pieces of meat. Time for some supporters to grow up and treat all players with some respect irrespective what colours he or she wears.

Let the boy choose what is best for him, let the clubs then sit down like grown adults and work it out, some you win some you lose, what goes around comes around.

All I said was I think Melbourne are further down the path than many think. I'm sure as a club we Giants will do our best to help, assuming the deal is fair for us. Melbourne never dick us around.

I agree with a lot you say, bur players these days have enough leverage anyway, especially due to Free Agency, and Fremantle have used a very valuable draft pick on him and spent a few years and money on developing him, and should be adequately compensated as such.

Your suggestion of pick 12 (which is likely to be near 20 after F/S and academy pushbacks) and Weideman is woefully inadequate/unders and one Freo would obviously not entertain.

I don't see why the Giants would help Melbourne out in that scenario, it doesn't help GWS in any way.

 

[Chaisa]

I can’t see how Melbourne can afford him unless they deal Brayshaw or something (or Jackson but that ain’t happening). Bell’s become borderline Dodoro-esque and their first clearly isn’t high enough to entertain it.

Carlton still in the box seat for that reason although the nature of the deal will be interesting.

 

[whatwhatsaywhat]

Dees are good at getting deals over the line.
I can't remember the last target they missed.

i can - isaac smith last year as a free agent