Adam Goodes declines Hall of Fame invitation

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No woke is used to define progressive people who follow identitarian ideology as developed by certain academics. A racist and sexist group of people who believe race and sex is important for your identity rather then behaviours, beliefs and values. They are a very distinct group of people from other lefties such as classical lefties and socialists.
You should apply for a job at the Oz with that sort of sub Sheridanian nonsense.
 

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You should apply for a job at the Oz with that sort of sub Sheridanian nonsense.
Why would I do that. Im a lefty. Not right wing.

us classical lefties are pissed off at wokesters. they lure idiots who don’t realise the awful ramification of their views. They aren’t all that different to nazis in terms of their view of race. They just care about promoting different races.
 
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No woke is used to define progressive people who follow identitarian ideology as developed by certain academics. A racist and sexist group of people who believe race and sex is important for your identity rather then behaviours, beliefs and values. Their goal isn’t to end racism but to simply shift power from one race to the next. They are a very distinct group of people from other lefties such as classical lefties and socialists.
I recall a female politician saying to male colleague something like - how dare you say you can represent a woman in parliament better than me. As if an urban dwelling working professional is going to represent a rural farmer better than another farmer would, simply on the basis of sex.
 

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I could be living my life as a farmer, kind-heartedly handing out free slices of my watermelons for many years to all pass by. If one day an American-African person came along and found it offensive of me to presume they'd like a slice of watermelon, that does not suddenly make it a racist act.

This definition is not even open to dialogue between parties to establish whether the offense taken was justified or misplaced. Ridiculous.
That’s not my definition.
 

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When thousands of spectators are booing an Indigenous player every week, and it's clear that he perceives it as racially motivated and would like it to stop, and you keep doing it anyway, then yeah, that makes you a racist.

You also seem like a bit of a half-wit, if it helps.
how mature, you can’t win an argument with logic so you resort to name calling, the classic 10 year old play.

what you’ve just said, literally, is if an indigenous person wants you to stop doing something, and you don’t, then you’re a racist. Do you understand how moronic that is?
 

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how mature, you can’t win an argument with logic so you resort to name calling, the classic 10 year old play.

what you’ve just said, literally, is if an indigenous person wants you to stop doing something, and you don’t, then you’re a racist. Do you understand how moronic that is?
It’s futile .... Thier argument is, let’s forget how we got here , let’s forget that Goodes actions led to the booing starting (from hawks supporters) let’s forget that Goodes inflamed the issue by stating he didn’t know why Hawks supporters were booing him, let’s forget that he inflamed the situation by aggressively running towards Carlton supporters that hadn’t booed him... and then he states that he wants them to “bring it on” ..... and then the booing gets worse??? And worse .... to point the racist card comes out and now those bringing it on are labeled racists ... anyone critising Goodes is labeled a racist ... and if you boo you are a racist.

mean while Goodes shows no responsibility, asks no questions towards those who booed him.

like I said earlier ... the issue created more divide.
Goodes the victim ... give me a break.
 

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This is an entirely pointless thread.

For me the only issue of interest is who from the AFL leaked Goodes' decision.

As I understand it he politely declined the invite earlier this year and asked there be no publicity about it all. He just quietly wanted to move on and did not consider it newsworthy. But there you go.
 

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It’s futile .... Thier argument is, let’s forget how we got here , let’s forget that Goodes actions led to the booing starting (from hawks supporters) let’s forget that Goodes inflamed the issue by stating he didn’t know why Hawks supporters were booing him, let’s forget that he inflamed the situation by aggressively running towards Carlton supporters that hadn’t booed him... and then he states that he wants them to “bring it on” ..... and then the booing gets worse??? And worse .... to point the racist card comes out and now those bringing it on are labeled racists ... anyone critising Goodes is labeled a racist ... and if you boo you are a racist.

mean while Goodes shows no responsibility, asks no questions towards those who booed him.

like I said earlier ... the issue created more divide.
Goodes the victim ... give me a break.
Yeah, maybe not racist but probably a dickhead.
 

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Shock, horror!

Goodesy further trolling the football world with his indigenous activism...

Yawn.




The thing I found funniest about the whole media circus (the reality vs the media myth) was how quiet and muted the Goodes-booing was as the 2015 season progressed. Aside from the game at Subiaco vs West Coast, the booing came from a small minority of people. It was nothing like the full-on booing which players are sometimes subjected to.. (e.g. Dangerfield vs Port)

Commentators were literally going quiet when Goodes got the ball and straining to hear whether anyone was defying the AFL decree to "stop the booing"

I watched that documentary and in the game at Etihad vs St Kilda, Goodes took a mark and was lining up a set shot for goal when a handful of Saints fans booed him. Maybe 40 or 50 people??? You could hear a pin drop... Certainly WAY LESS than the usual 10,000 St Kilda maniacs who boo an opposition player as they line up for goal.

But this was further evidence of him being "booed out of the game". Please. :rolleyes:
 
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And Everyone keeps ignoring his reception he received first game back from injury in 2014 After he had received Australian of the year .... but it doesn’t suit their narrative ....
 

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Once again this issue has been derailed by the overtly racist, the pathetic apologist brigade and the just downright nasty.

There is an undercurrent of bigotry in this country that in this instance manifests when the name Adam Goodes is mentioned.
Yep.

They certainly don't like the mirror being held up to them, especially by their target(s).
 
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What about Nicky Winmar, I don't remember him playing unfortunately but was he Booed?
Eddie Betts has called out racism also.
Ummm. The Collingwood game where he pulled up his jumper he (and the other Aboriginal boys) were copping it.
Then the president of Collingwood came out and said he doesn't mind Aboriginal people in the game if they act like normal people.
 

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To play devils advocate for a second, plenty of Indigenous players have been subjected to racist taunts in the past as well and they never got or get booed. So why do you think Goodes was singled out?
Put it this way.
Did Goodes play for free kicks? Yep.
Was he the worst? Hell No.
Not even the worst at the time let alone in history.
Did any of the worse floppers come remotely close to getting the same treatment? Nup
Was he dirty? Not really. Have any of the real dirty thugs in the game come close to getting the same treatment? Nup
Some might think he's a dickhead. Is he remotely close to being the biggest dickhead to play the game?
Nowhere near it. Any of the real dickheads come close to getting the same treatment?
No.
Make of that what you will.
 

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Put it this way.
Did Goodes play for free kicks? Yep.
Was he the worst? Hell No.
Not even the worst at the time let alone in history.
Did any of the worse floppers come remotely close to getting the same treatment? Nup
Was he dirty? Not really. Have any of the real dirty thugs in the game come close to getting the same treatment? Nup
Some might think he's a dickhead. Is he remotely close to being the biggest dickhead to play the game?
Nowhere near it. Any of the real dickheads come close to getting the same treatment?
No.
Make of that what you will.
he helped bring in the sliding tackle rule... He had form before the Gibson incident.
He was the face of sliding tackles.

Reported twice in 2012


 
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Ummm. The Collingwood game where he pulled up his jumper he (and the other Aboriginal boys) were copping it.
Then the president of Collingwood came out and said he doesn't mind Aboriginal people in the game if they act like normal people.
The idea that Nicky Winmar was roundly applauded and cheered in the weeks and months after his stand is a rewriting of history from people that weren’t there. That moment has become symbolic over time as people reflected and changed. Just as the Goodes’ saga will.
 

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he helped bring in the sliding tackle rule... He had form before the Gibson incident.
He was the face of sliding tackles.

Reported twice in 2012


Yes I am sure that is why he was booed so much then lol.
So was he the dirtiest ay??
All other players who have been dirtier got treated the same way?
Judd played at the same time. Eye gouging, chicken wings.
Crowley MrPinchy.
Barry Hall punching a bloke out.
For some reason I can't remember them getting booed out of the game.
 

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The idea that Nicky Winmar was roundly applauded and cheered in the weeks and months after his stand is a rewriting of history from people that weren’t there. That moment has become symbolic over time as people reflected and changed. Just as the Goodes’ saga will.
Your right he wasn't. Some people were actually offended by him standing up for himself. Many.
 

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he helped bring in the sliding tackle rule... He had form before the Gibson incident.
He was the face of sliding tackles.

Reported twice in 2012


Yes, and then how many more times for the rest of his career? I'm not 100% sure but I reckon it's close to 0.

People booed Adam because he stood up for himself when racist muppets like Bolt and Newman and McGuire insisted that he should have just shut up and put up with getting called "magilla gorilla".

Not for anything else that happened on the field.
 

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Yes, and then how many more times for the rest of his career? I'm not 100% sure but I reckon it's close to 0.

People booed Adam because he stood up for himself when racist muppets like Bolt and Newman and McGuire insisted that he should have just shut up and put up with getting called "magilla gorilla".

Not for anything else that happened on the field.
The next year was Gibson ... 🙄
 

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