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So basically after 115 pages the take home message is if you are going to boo someone, you better make dam sure they are white first.
No it's even more perplexing than that.

Apparently you can boo all manner of footballers, even of all races, just don't boo any non-white who it's decided represents their race best and speaks most, or else you are somehow racist against all his people automatically. Even though you aren't? Because you like a lot of his people a lot? You, like, don't even see skin colour as a factor of if you like someone? You just don't like him...

Mind. Totally. Blown. How. This. Is. Actually. Reality.
 

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So how was Long keeping his culture to himself? He changed the whole system by his actions. He forced change by confronting the system that had harboured racism for years. That is a terrible example.
It was an example of the backlash that indigenous Australians get home they don't keep to themselves or they try to confront racism. As was Aly's point. It especially fits this conversation because Long is constantly brought up as the right way of discussing race, when in fact he was widely slammed for it at the time.
 

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Is he a nob because he challenges you?

If he shut up he would be a good bloke, aye?

Maybe he should be going out smashing 24 frothies and then he should spew on someone, that would make him a "FARKIN FUNNY LEG AYE!"
No he's a knob because he points at young girls and does wardances at the only bay full of opposition supporters. He's a tosser.
 

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So a good bloke just cops racist abuse and celebrates by tipping his imaginary cap to team mates then?
Carlton supporters being racist were they? Must of missed that, along with the security, police, and media. Good to see you caught it though. Bloke is a champion player, does not make him a champion bloke. Even if he happens to play for a team you support.
 

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It was an example of the backlash that indigenous Australians get home they don't keep to themselves or they try to confront racism. As was Aly's point. It especially fits this conversation because Long is constantly brought up as the right way of discussing race, when in fact he was widely slammed for it at the time.
Or how about how Andrew Mcloud talks about race? Not a good example I know as he is universally loved and admired for being a good guy. Difference between when players like Macca, Wanganeen or Bourgoyne talk about it is everyone listens, when people like Goodes, Mundine or Harry O talk about 3/4rs of people tune out because they are knobs. Now which one is best to represent their people?
 

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It was an example of the backlash that indigenous Australians get home they don't keep to themselves or they try to confront racism. As was Aly's point. It especially fits this conversation because Long is constantly brought up as the right way of discussing race, when in fact he was widely slammed for it at the time.
Was he :confused: i don't remember much negative backlash. And it has been progress ever since.

This is the most bewildering thing about this particular incident, there has not even been an incident of racism. No one has been reported for anything, no one has been accused of anything. All we have is a whole bunch of conclusions drawn from some booing.
 

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Was he :confused: i don't remember much negative backlash.
Are you serious?
Or how about how Andrew Mcloud talks about race? Not a good example I know as he is universally loved and admired for being a good guy. Difference between when players like Macca, Wanganeen or Bourgoyne talk about it is everyone listens,
Can you give me examples of them talking about racism or indigenous disadvantage?
 

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You serious? Macca spoke at the UN about it. Even a lazy google search would have pulled that up. Unless your just trolling?
McLeod's address to the UN detailed AFL policies on racism. If you can direct me to the parts where he made comments about current indigenous issues in Australian culture I'd be happy to read them.

In any case, I'll accept McLeod. What about the others you named?
 

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You serious? Macca spoke at the UN about it. Even a lazy google search would have pulled that up. Unless your just trolling?
You see, unless you are Adam Goodes, your platform is just not wide enough, whether you are Mcleod speaking to the UN or Stokes writing open letter to the PM, you are not AOTY and you just don't count. Only Adam Goodes speaks up against racism.

Goodes' platform was far wider than what Stokes had. Most of the people criticising Goodes wouldnt read the front part of the newspaper that would have been printed in.

Goodes took the AOTY award and used it to drive home some truths about the racist history of this country. That makes many uncomfortable.

Just as Ali was hammered for pointing out the racism and warmongering of US society, Goodes is copping the same.
 
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The main argument that people are using to support booing Goodes is that since people aren't racist to all aboriginal players it is therefore impossible to be racist to one :drunk:
Yeah that is sort of the definition of racism. That a person is racist, means that he has a belief that the ENTIRE race is different and not equal to their own. Being against one means you don't like THAT particular person. It is exacerbated when that person uses their race as cover for their improper behavior. Now if you are going to extend the definition of racism to disliking anyone at all, then you are very talentedo_O.

Except the booing itself did most likely have racist undertones
That belief is..... because you wrote it and Adam Goodes insuniated it. Well I guess that proves it then. Since you and Adam know what I and everyone else is thinking, can you tell me where to go to dinner? I am undecided As to what to eat.

Ok that's it no more posting but just couldn't resist.
 

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McLeod's address to the UN detailed AFL policies on racism. If you can direct me to the parts where he made comments about current indigenous issues in Australian culture I'd be happy to read them.

In any case, I'll accept McLeod. What about the others you named?
Dis you forget Wanganeen issue with Dipper over being called an Abo?
 

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Carlton supporters being racist were they? Must of missed that, along with the security, police, and media. Good to see you caught it though. Bloke is a champion player, does not make him a champion bloke. Even if he happens to play for a team you support.
I'm pretty sure you were making reference to the Pies fan who abused Goodes in your post.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong?
 

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Yeah that is sort of the definition of racism. That a person is racist, means that he has a belief that the ENTIRE race is different and not equal to their own. Being against one means you don't like THAT particular person. It is exacerbated when that person uses their race as cover for their improper behavior. Now if you are going to extend the definition of racism to disliking anyone at all, then you are very talentedo_O.
So its all fine to call Goodes an ape then as long as you are only referring to him or his appearance as ape like and not his race?
 
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