Adani Mine - "Automated from pit to port."

[medusala]

A science PhD friend of ours works on a mine directing traffic.

Says more about the s**t state of our science funding and career paths than anything really.

It may also tell you that mining jobs can pay extremely well.

 

[Chief]

It may also tell you that mining jobs can pay extremely well.

Once you take into account the plane fares it’s basically a pay cut.

Then there is family stress from absence and it’s not a desirable job.

 

[Power Raid]

A science PhD friend of ours works on a mine directing traffic.

Says more about the s**t state of our science funding and career paths than anything really.

Like any one else with an idea alone, you’ll find it worthless. Wrap it up with a business model, attract funding, develop the concept and then commercialise it and it’s possibly worth something.

If one can’t do that, why waste all that time and take up space of others at uni that can?

Society rewards doers and contributors more than just ideas men

 

[Chief]

Like any one else with an idea alone, you’ll find it worthless. Wrap it up with a business model, attract funding, develop the concept and then commercialise it and it’s possibly worth something.

If one can’t do that, why waste all that time and take up space of others at uni that can?

Society rewards doers and contributors more than just ideas men

Yes because spending public money on scientific research never got anyone anywhere.

(Internet, iPhone, wi-fi, Tesla...)

 

[Power Raid]

Yes because spending public money on scientific research never got anyone anywhere.

(Internet, iPhone, wi-fi, Tesla...)

Were you one of the people supporting policies at the last election that would have destroyed our investment sector attacking long term investment classes like infrastructure, R&D, technology, innovation, renewables (outside of some crazy government controlled subsidies concept) etc etc.?



PS There is nothing wrong with government support (preferably on commercial arms length basis) but it shouldn't do all the heavy lifting.

 

[Chief]

Were you one of the people supporting policies at the last election that would have destroyed our investment sector attacking long term investment classes like infrastructure, R&D, technology, innovation, renewables (outside of some crazy government controlled subsidies concept) etc etc.?



PS There is nothing wrong with government support (preferably on commercial arms length basis) but it shouldn't do all the heavy lifting.

Undirected government funding of research is vital to any economy.

 

[Power Raid]

Undirected government funding of research is vital to any economy.

But that wasn’t the question

And yes I agree. Further do you think that isn’t happening?

 

[Kwality]

Yes because spending public money on scientific research never got anyone anywhere.

(Internet, iPhone, wi-fi, Tesla...)

So whats the story with the PhD guy ... a sabbatical, an academic, a square peg in a round hole.

Aus has researchers, just got to look.

 

[Chief]

But that wasn’t the question

And yes I agree. Further do you think that isn’t happening?

With Turnbull wanting the CSIRO to focus on selling services instead of research that benefits everybody?

The industry in Australia is shrinking.

 

[Power Raid]

With Turnbull wanting the CSIRO to focus on selling services instead of research that benefits everybody?

The industry in Australia is shrinking.

From my experience with ANSTO and CSIRO in recent years, their model has incorporated doing research on live issues and selling those services or profit sharing with industry.

That’s sensible!

Theoretical science also has a place but solving problems has immediate measurable value......both providing opportunities to our best and brightest......but only one provides opportunities to blue collar and the ordinary

 

[Kwality]

Here is a bit for those interested in tech mining style thru Aus innovation:

BHP’s remote operations centre, where skilled workers power millions of dollars worth of mining equipment from thousands of kilometres away.

Mining tech show puts Curtin innovation on global stage

The university’s research into the mining and oil and gas industries will be brought to life for all to see as it becomes a partner for the inaugural Resources Technology Showcase 2019.

thewest.com.au

BHP’s remote operations centre, where skilled workers power millions of dollars worth of mining equipment from thousands of kilometres away.Picture: Michael Wilson
“For more than 110 years, the school has provided high-quality education and undertaken both applied and advanced research, earning a reputation for producing highly skilled and industry-ready graduates,” she said.

“For the third year in a row, the school’s mineral and mining engineering programs were ranked first in Australia and second globally by the prestigious QS World University Rankings. And all of its other major engineering programs — chemical, civil and structural — ranked in the top 100 in the world.

“As the industry moves rapidly towards remote and autonomous production, it will need more skilled operators, technicians, instrumentation geologists, geoscientists, surveyors and engineers and environmentalists — and each of these jobs will require different skill sets than previously thought.

 

[Elroo]

Once you take into account the plane fares it’s basically a pay cut.

Then there is family stress from absence and it’s not a desirable job.

If they are paying their own airfares they are either a fool or they've just started in the industry.

 

[Steinfreo]

Here is a bit for those interested in tech mining style thru Aus innovation:

BHP’s remote operations centre, where skilled workers power millions of dollars worth of mining equipment from thousands of kilometres away.

Mining tech show puts Curtin innovation on global stage

The university’s research into the mining and oil and gas industries will be brought to life for all to see as it becomes a partner for the inaugural Resources Technology Showcase 2019.

thewest.com.au

BHP’s remote operations centre, where skilled workers power millions of dollars worth of mining equipment from thousands of kilometres away.Picture: Michael Wilson
“For more than 110 years, the school has provided high-quality education and undertaken both applied and advanced research, earning a reputation for producing highly skilled and industry-ready graduates,” she said.

“For the third year in a row, the school’s mineral and mining engineering programs were ranked first in Australia and second globally by the prestigious QS World University Rankings. And all of its other major engineering programs — chemical, civil and structural — ranked in the top 100 in the world.

“As the industry moves rapidly towards remote and autonomous production, it will need more skilled operators, technicians, instrumentation geologists, geoscientists, surveyors and engineers and environmentalists — and each of these jobs will require different skill sets than previously thought.

We gonna teach all the mine workers code?

 

[Kwality]

We gonna teach all the mine workers code?

You might be surprised, pleasantly of course.

 

[Elroo]

So French journalists were filming an anti-Adani protest, weren't given a move on notice by Police, but were arrested and had imposed a bail condition that stops them from coming with 20km of any Adani sites!

French journalists' bail conditions after Adani arrest labelled 'abuse of police power'

Queensland Council of Civil Liberties says banning them reporting near Carmichael mine ‘entirely inappropriate’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Gough]

So French journalists were filming an anti-Adani protest, weren't given a move on notice by Police, but were arrested and had imposed a bail condition that stops them from coming with 20km of any Adani sites!

French journalists' bail conditions after Adani arrest labelled 'abuse of police power'

Queensland Council of Civil Liberties says banning them reporting near Carmichael mine ‘entirely inappropriate’

www.theguardian.com

This is what Australia wants apparently.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

This is what Australia wants apparently.

Queensland does, they pretty much voted for it remember?

 

[Craven Morehead]

So French journalists were filming an anti-Adani protest, weren't given a move on notice by Police, but were arrested and had imposed a bail condition that stops them from coming with 20km of any Adani sites!

French journalists' bail conditions after Adani arrest labelled 'abuse of police power'

Queensland Council of Civil Liberties says banning them reporting near Carmichael mine ‘entirely inappropriate’

www.theguardian.com

Bad enough having you pesky Southerners sticking your nose into our business, but the French!!

 

[Elroo]

Bad enough having you pesky Southerners sticking your nose into our business, but the French!!

You pesky southerners?

 

[Kwality]

This is what Australia wants apparently.

Jackie has lost the plot, give Ms P a yell.

 

[Craven Morehead]

You pesky southerners?

Yes, you pesky Southerners who feel the need to travel up here in convoys, like that supreme dickhead Bob Brown and his entourage, and tell us all what we should be doing.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Dont know if this includes Adani??

Insurance giant Suncorp says it will no longer cover new thermal coal projects
Activists say move means there are now no Australian insurers willing to underwrite new thermal coal developments


Australian insurance giant Suncorp will no longer invest in, finance or insure new thermal coal mines and power plants, and will not underwrite any existing thermal coal projects after 2025.


This is the latest in a series of pledges by banks and financial services companies that they will not support projects that mine or burn coal used for electricity generation, in line with the goals of the 2015 Paris climate agreement.

Insurance giant Suncorp says it will no longer cover new thermal coal projects

Activists say move means there are now no Australian insurers willing to underwrite new thermal coal developments

www.theguardian.com

 

[HairyO]

Blaming the environment for dumb business decisions.

 

[Power Raid]

Dont know if this includes Adani??

Insurance giant Suncorp says it will no longer cover new thermal coal projects
Activists say move means there are now no Australian insurers willing to underwrite new thermal coal developments


Australian insurance giant Suncorp will no longer invest in, finance or insure new thermal coal mines and power plants, and will not underwrite any existing thermal coal projects after 2025.


This is the latest in a series of pledges by banks and financial services companies that they will not support projects that mine or burn coal used for electricity generation, in line with the goals of the 2015 Paris climate agreement.

Insurance giant Suncorp says it will no longer cover new thermal coal projects

Activists say move means there are now no Australian insurers willing to underwrite new thermal coal developments

www.theguardian.com

you'll see a greater and greater separation between business and superannuation

and a greater and greater transfer of wealth to foreigners............hello India

 

[Chief]

From my experience with ANSTO and CSIRO in recent years, their model has incorporated doing research on live issues and selling those services or profit sharing with industry.

That’s sensible!

Theoretical science also has a place but solving problems has immediate measurable value......both providing opportunities to our best and brightest......but only one provides opportunities to blue collar and the ordinary

But they aren’t a service business. It’s a forced pivot that isn’t working.