Banter Adelaide Board's Combined Politics/Covid discussion Banter Thread (WARNING NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED)

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Kane McGoodwin

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Their Government posted a $5.6billion surplus.

If they can't cope, we are all f’ed.



Also, an ALP Government posting a surplus!!!

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$5.6B buys plenty more hospital beds, equipment & clinical staff of you can find them... even in the most expensive jurisdiction in the country.
 

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Will be interesting to watch the polls after this McGowan decision. I reckon his high approval rating may start to slide after this major broken promise.

This may end up helping ScoMo in the upcoming election to gain back some ground in WA.
 

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$5.6B buys plenty more hospital beds, equipment & clinical staff of you can find them... even in the most expensive jurisdiction in the country.

That's a very good question that WA journalists should be asking him.
Surely they already are. I can understand some of the public happy about the idea of borders being shut and being kept "safe", but surely they have to be asking why carry a massive surplus if their health system is f’ed. Thats why he's kept the borders shut, its face saving because he knows he would be belted when the system didn't cope.
 

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Jack Darling the latest player who hasn't returned back to training as he remains unvaccinated.
 

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Come on Pete.. I’m going to remain civil and respectful because I made a promise I would.

But… Surely you dont honestly think that pre covid the parents of children suffering from Cancers, heart conditions or other comorbidities that weakened their immune systems werent doing everything they possibly could to protect their sick child from seasonal viruses like the flu, including isolating themselves from the outside world at times, wearing masks, getting their families vaccinated against viruses and probably disinfecting the hell out of everything?

Totally get it. Anybody would do the same. But it’s always been that way.

What I’m saying is that where children are concerned there’s no special consideration that should be given to COVID above anything else. The data clearly shows this.

Look. There were 1805 deaths in 2020 of people between the ages of 0-19. That’s all cause deaths. Want to know how many were from COVID?

Zero. Not a single one!

In 2021/2022, the number is six. (That’s tested positive. We don’t know the extent to which COVID contributed to these deaths).

COVID as a cause of death among all children — even immunocompromised children — barely even registers on the radar.

The data couldn‘t be clearer on this.

I‘m not sure what else you want me to say.

You people are talking about a “threat” that is paper thin, it is less than the flu.

In terms of your child, if you were not doing any of this for the flu, than doing it for COVID is objectively an overreaction.

That’s just a fact.
 

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$5.6B buys plenty more hospital beds, equipment & clinical staff of you can find them... even in the most expensive jurisdiction in the country.
Only $2b more than what the young american girl who won this morning at the Australian open stands to inherit from her father apparently..bit of trivia

Not that i am suggesting she funds extra beds for WA
 

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Yes. Because unvaccinated people are 9 times more likely to end up IN ICU and only end up making things worse. Deploy them in non patient contact positions, but they cannot be on the front lines. It isn’t rocket science.
Just got back from ADEL .....did the obligatory catchup with my Sister, who is the polar opposite to me ......she's a big smoker, had cancer a couple of years back ....her husband has emphysema, still smokes & has a list of ailments that makes you wonder how he's still alive

Yet I discover the whole family, including their grown up children are not vaccinated ....and have no intentions of getting vaccinated

You might think I was surprised ....nope, didn't even bother questioning her

Anyone in that family that catch's CoVid will die ......you just can't rationalise with some people & that includes all matters health, religion, and politics
 

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Totally get it. Anybody would do the same. But it’s always been that way.

What I’m saying is there’s no special consideration that should be given to COVID above anything else. The data clearly shows this.

Look. There were 1805 deaths in 2020 of people between the ages of 0-19. That’s all cause deaths. Want to know how many were from COVID?

Zero. Not a single one!

In 2021/2022, the number is six. (That’s tested positive. We don’t know the extent to which COVID contributed to these deaths).

COVID as a cause of death among all children — even immunocompromised children — barely even registers on the radar.

The data couldn‘t be clearer on this.

I‘m not sure what else you want me to say.

You people are talking about a “threat” that is paper thin, it is less than the flu.

In terms of your child, if you were not doing any of this for the flu, than doing it for COVID is objectively an overreaction.

That’s just a fact.
No, a child died in WCH from covid in the last month, so you can't claim there have been no deaths... as yet more fake Slippery facts.

I gather there would also be a small number in other states too
 

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It depends what the actual public think though, that's they key.

A right wing media outlet being critical of a Labor politician isn't really a watershed moment.
The State Govt's are simply making calls which reflects their polling .....all reference to "listening to Health Experts" has disappeared from the vernacular

It's all about getting re-elected now
 

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Also too opening up and living with the virus like certain people on here have been pushing for hasn't been the panacea either.

Shopping centres are like ghost towns, I was at Burnside last night and there would have only been 50 people there.

People are essentially insolating themselves with or without lockdowns. The only difference is that after a lock down people then feel somewhat safe about leaving their house rather than the current situation where the fear of getting COVID remains a permanent thing.

They're seeing that it's still an economic train wreck living with the virus so that's most probably not helping either.
That might be Burnside, but Marion is still packed during the week
 

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Will be interesting to watch the polls after this McGowan decision. I reckon his high approval rating may start to slide after this major broken promise.

This may end up helping ScoMo in the upcoming election to gain back some ground in WA.
I doubt it. It might make his popularity east of the Nullarbor take a hit - but those aren't the people voting for him. WA residents love him for keeping them safe.
 

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Are people really afraid to leave their house…..

Who are these people?

There's plenty of seniors out there that feel that way

Also if you go out to any shopping centre, movie cinemas etc it's blatantly obvious that Gen Xers and Boomers are limiting their movements to a degree
 

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Totally get it. Anybody would do the same. But it’s always been that way.

What I’m saying is that where children are concerned there’s no special consideration that should be given to COVID above anything else. The data clearly shows this.

Look. There were 1805 deaths in 2020 of people between the ages of 0-19. That’s all cause deaths. Want to know how many were from COVID?

Zero. Not a single one!

In 2021/2022, the number is six. (That’s tested positive. We don’t know the extent to which COVID contributed to these deaths).

COVID as a cause of death among all children — even immunocompromised children — barely even registers on the radar.

The data couldn‘t be clearer on this.

I‘m not sure what else you want me to say.

You people are talking about a “threat” that is paper thin, it is less than the flu.

In terms of your child, if you were not doing any of this for the flu, than doing it for COVID is objectively an overreaction.

That’s just a fact.
No, a child died in WCH from covid in the last month, so you can't claim there have been no deaths... as yet more fake Slippery facts.

I gather there would also be a small number in other states too

And can you think of a reason why we didn't see many deaths related to COVID in Australia in 2020 and 2021? Anything? Anything at all?
 

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That might be Burnside, but Marion is still packed during the week

That's great if that's the case, I was at Marion on Saturday and thought it was dead compared to what I've seen it in the past, but maybe it was just a once off.

I'm from the North East and TTP is nowhere even close to pre-pandemic levels in terms of the level of foot traffic.

A friend of my wife and I runs a business at TTP and their turn over was down over 100k in 2021 and said that it's shaping up to be the worst January on record too.
 
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The Morrison Government’s long-foreshadowed, long-desired pivot to a “we can’t be f’ed anymore” approach to pandemic and economic management is not yet yielding the promised results, the strategy apparently failing to account for how people, economies and viruses behave. Admittedly paying less attention to ******* everything is probably good advice for managing anxiety on a personal level, but on a level of governance and logistics hakuna matata is a less than ideal philosophy.

Atop this shitshow and finally getting his “let ‘er rip” wishes after being ignored by state premiers for years – Daniel Andrews in particular, but all of them to a degree – sits Scott John Morrison, Australia’s Prime Minister for the next few months.

As disaffected by parliamentary politics as I and a staggering number of younger people now are, outcomes like this and dead-eyed mannequins like Morrison are why elections matter. There is a fundamental difference between the effectiveness of an administration that believes in the worth of government and one that thinks the exercise is a lucrative waste of time. Beliefs such as these become self-fulfilling prophecies: governments that don’t believe in the worth of government are fairly ******* worthless.
 

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No, a child died in WCH from covid in the last month, so you can't claim there have been no deaths... as yet more fake Slippery facts.

I gather there would also be a small number in other states too
From COVID or infected, but died from other causes?

Also was not in hospital.



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I doubt it. It might make his popularity east of the Nullarbor take a hit - but those aren't the people voting for him. WA residents love him for keeping them safe.
I've talked to actual, real life people in Perth today, and they tell me the opposite. They are heart broken and completely bewildered.
 

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Just got back from ADEL .....did the obligatory catchup with my Sister, who is the polar opposite to me ......she's a big smoker, had cancer a couple of years back ....her husband has emphysema, still smokes & has a list of ailments that makes you wonder how he's still alive

Yet I discover the whole family, including their grown up children are not vaccinated ....and have no intentions of getting vaccinated

You might think I was surprised ....nope, didn't even bother questioning her

Anyone in that family that catch's CoVid will die ......you just can't rationalise with some people & that includes all matters health, religion, and politics
Dumbfounding isnt it..

I think I meantioned my missus’s best friend a few weeks back on here. Shes an antivaxer that a few weeks back told my missus that shes been passing huge globs of blood from her uterus.. has also been passing blood from her rear end.. sometimes even when she just passes wind…

She finally got into see a specialist last week who did some tests. Unfortunately the diagnosis came back this week of Cervical cancer. She now has to have an MRI in the coming days to see how far it has spread but given the passing of blood from her anus its likely its spread to her bowels.

******* guttering news. Shes an awesome chick in her 40’s so still young really. She is also a single mother to a great little 8 year old lad (the father lives interstate and didnt want to be involved from the very beginning so he hasnt even ever met his dad)

But even with all this and the obvious fight of her life that shes going to have to make and hopefully win in the very near future.. she’s still stubbornly refusing to get the vax..

She’s even worried they may force her to have the jabs because my missus had day surgery before Xmas and the hospital demanded to see her vax status and the results of a PCR 72hrs prior to admitting her.. wouldnt admit her otherwise. Although that was in the private hospital system…
 

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I stand corrected she wasn't in the WCH, but she did have covid. This is every parents fear & hopefully we won't see any more like this.
She did. I remember this one well. Put a scare in us.

But not necessarily died from it. Have the coroner findings been released?


Assuming she died of COVID adds to the hysteria around COVID. And an example of a trigger for unnecessary ED visits.

The reality being now many toddlers have had COVID in SA and pulled through fine with routine paracetamol.


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