Analysis Adelaide Crows depth chart 2022.

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Just an idea that occurred to me when discussing needs in another thread. Feel free to tell me if I have missed anyone, you think the position is really wrong, or the ranking is out. This is just my initial thoughts and I'm happy to edit.

Key Defenders: Jordan Butts, Nick Murray, Billy Frampton, Fischer McAsey, Elliot Himmelberg James Borlase

Medium defenders: Tom Doedee, Josh Worrell, Mitch Hinge, James Borlase, Patrick Parnell

Small defenders: Luke Brown, Andrew McPherson, Patrick Parnell

Running defenders: Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Will Hamill, Wayne Milera (inj), Lachlan Sholl, Patrick Parnell

Wingmen: Paul Seedsman, Brayden Cook, Lachlan Sholl, WIll Hamill, Rory Sloane

Key Forwards: Riley Thilthorpe, Darcy Fogarty, Elliot Himmelberg, Fischer McAsey, Billy Frampton

Medium Forwards: Shane McAdam, Lachlan Gollant, Rory Sloane, Brayden Cook

Small Forwards: James Rowe, Ned McHenry, Lachie Murphy, Tariek Newchurch

Midfielders: Ben Keays, Rory Laird, Harry Schoenberg, Matt Crouch, Sam Berry, Ned McHenry, Luke Pedlar, Rory Sloane, Jackson Hately, Chayce Jones

Rucks: Reilly O'Brien, Kieran Strachan, Riley Thilthorpe, Billy Frampton
 
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dogs105 said:
Just an idea that occurred to me when discussing needs in another thread. Feel free to tell me if I have missed anyone, you think the position is really wrong, or the ranking is out. This is just my initial thoughts and I'm happy to edit.

Key Defenders: Jordan Butts, Nick Murray, Billy Frampton, Fischer McAsey, Elliot Himmelberg James Borlase

Medium defenders: Tom Doedee, Josh Worrell, Mitch Hinge, James Borlase, Patrick Parnell

Small defenders: Luke Brown, Andrew McPherson, Patrick Parnell

Running defenders: Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Will Hamill, Wayne Milera (inj), Lachlan Sholl, Patrick Parnell

Wingmen: Paul Seedsman, Brayden Cook, Lachlan Sholl, WIll Hamill, Rory Sloane

Key Forwards: Riley Thilthorpe, Darcy Fogarty, Elliot Himmelberg, Fischer McAsey, Billy Frampton

Medium Forwards: Shane McAdam, Lachlan Gollant, Rory Sloane, Brayden Cook

Small Forwards: James Rowe, Ned McHenry, Lachie Murphy, Tariek Newchurch

Midfielders: Ben Keays, Rory Laird, Harry Schoenberg, Matt Crouch, Sam Berry, Ned McHenry, Luke Pedlar, Rory Sloane, Jackson Hately, Chayce Jones

Rucks: Reilly O'Brien, Kieran Strachan, Riley Thilthorpe, Billy Frampton
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Don’t think we should be listing players twice. Would prefer we only list them once (I understand they can play multiple positions, but as a depth chart we should only list them once in their preferred position.

id also have a ruck/forward position (frampton, berg, TT fall into this)
 
dogs105 said:
Just an idea that occurred to me when discussing needs in another thread. Feel free to tell me if I have missed anyone, you think the position is really wrong, or the ranking is out. This is just my initial thoughts and I'm happy to edit.

Key Defenders: Jordan Butts, Nick Murray, Billy Frampton, Fischer McAsey, Elliot Himmelberg James Borlase

Medium defenders: Tom Doedee, Josh Worrell, Mitch Hinge, James Borlase, Patrick Parnell

Small defenders: Luke Brown, Andrew McPherson, Patrick Parnell

Running defenders: Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Will Hamill, Wayne Milera (inj), Lachlan Sholl, Patrick Parnell

Wingmen: Paul Seedsman, Brayden Cook, Lachlan Sholl, WIll Hamill, Rory Sloane

Key Forwards: Riley Thilthorpe, Darcy Fogarty, Elliot Himmelberg, Fischer McAsey, Billy Frampton

Medium Forwards: Shane McAdam, Lachlan Gollant, Rory Sloane, Brayden Cook

Small Forwards: James Rowe, Ned McHenry, Lachie Murphy, Tariek Newchurch

Midfielders: Ben Keays, Rory Laird, Harry Schoenberg, Matt Crouch, Sam Berry, Ned McHenry, Luke Pedlar, Rory Sloane, Jackson Hately, Chayce Jones

Rucks: Reilly O'Brien, Kieran Strachan, Riley Thilthorpe, Billy Frampton
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No Taylor Walker? Do you know something we dont?
 
dogs105 said:
Just an idea that occurred to me when discussing needs in another thread. Feel free to tell me if I have missed anyone, you think the position is really wrong, or the ranking is out. This is just my initial thoughts and I'm happy to edit.
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Key Defenders: Jordan Butts, Nick Murray, Billy Frampton, Josh Worrell, Fischer McAsey, Elliot Himmelberg James Borlase

Medium defenders: Tom Doedee, Andrew McPherson, Josh Worrell, Mitch Hinge, James Borlase, Patrick Parnell

Small defenders: Luke Brown, Andrew McPherson, Patrick Parnell

Running defenders: Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Will Hamill, Wayne Milera (inj), Lachlan Sholl, Patrick Parnell

Wingmen: Jordan Dawson, Paul Seedsman, Lachlan Sholl, Brayden Cook, WIll Hamill, Rory Sloane

Key Forwards: Riley Thilthorpe, Taylor Walker, Darcy Fogarty, Elliot Himmelberg, Fischer McAsey, Billy Frampton

Medium Forwards: Lachlan Gollant, Brayden Cook, Shane McAdam, Rory Sloane,

Small Forwards: Ned McHenry, James Rowe, Lachie Murphy, Tariek Newchurch

Midfielders: Rory Laird, Ben Keays, Harry Schoenberg, Matt Crouch, Rory Sloane, Sam Berry, Ned McHenry, Luke Pedlar, Jackson Hately, ROC Chayce Jones

Rucks: Reilly O'Brien, Kieran Strachan, Riley Thilthorpe, Billy Frampton

Would be my guess at how it shakes out currently.
 
dogs105 said:
Just an idea that occurred to me when discussing needs in another thread. Feel free to tell me if I have missed anyone, you think the position is really wrong, or the ranking is out. This is just my initial thoughts and I'm happy to edit.

Key Defenders: Jordan Butts, Nick Murray, Billy Frampton, Fischer McAsey, Elliot Himmelberg James Borlase

Medium defenders: Tom Doedee, Josh Worrell, Mitch Hinge, James Borlase, Patrick Parnell

Small defenders: Luke Brown, Andrew McPherson, Patrick Parnell

Running defenders: Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Will Hamill, Wayne Milera (inj), Lachlan Sholl, Patrick Parnell

Wingmen: Paul Seedsman, Brayden Cook, Lachlan Sholl, WIll Hamill, Rory Sloane

Key Forwards: Riley Thilthorpe, Darcy Fogarty, Elliot Himmelberg, Fischer McAsey, Billy Frampton

Medium Forwards: Shane McAdam, Lachlan Gollant, Rory Sloane, Brayden Cook

Small Forwards: James Rowe, Ned McHenry, Lachie Murphy, Tariek Newchurch

Midfielders: Ben Keays, Rory Laird, Harry Schoenberg, Matt Crouch, Sam Berry, Ned McHenry, Luke Pedlar, Rory Sloane, Jackson Hately, Chayce Jones

Rucks: Reilly O'Brien, Kieran Strachan, Riley Thilthorpe, Billy Frampton
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I think Chayce Jones should only be in the defender category. That's where he established himself in the starting 22 this season. He may move into the midfield eventually but for now he is a defender.
 
Josh Worrell is taller than Borlase, not sure which is in the wrong category, probably Borlase.

Yes he can lock down defenders, can he do this at AFL, he is more Jake Kelly's height.

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LoBu said:
Josh Worrell is taller than Borlase, not sure which is in the wrong category, probably Borlase.

Yes he can lock down defenders, can he do this at AFL, he is more Jake Kelly's height.

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I kind of took it as the mid-defender role covered both that and a third tall (which Worrell is).
 
I like this kind of analysis. Here’s a Q tho-

1. is the idea that you assess depth in each position, so that a player can appear in multiple positions if they could play in that position?
OR
2. Is it about listing each player once in their best position?

I guess it depends on what it is used for. I see it as being a measure of depth (!) so that it will show what positions need more players recruited to cover possible injuries. So option 1 makes sense to me for that purpose.

Also, I assume ‘running defenders’ means attacking defenders ie ppl you don’t really look to for hard lockdown defence? And the other three categories all are players whose primary role is to to lockdown?

I’d probably swap the category ‘wingmen’ with ‘outside midfielders/wings’.
 

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WeeBlake said:
I like this kind of analysis. Here’s a Q tho-

1. is the idea that you assess depth in each position, so that a player can appear in multiple positions if they could play in that position?
OR
2. Is it about listing each player once in their best position?

I guess it depends on what it is used for. I see it as being a measure of depth (!) so that it will show what positions need more players recruited to cover possible injuries. So option 1 makes sense to me for that purpose.

Also, I assume ‘running defenders’ means attacking defenders ie ppl you don’t really look to for hard lockdown defence? And the other three categories all are players whose primary role is to to lockdown?

I’d probably swap the category ‘wingmen’ with ‘outside midfielders/wings’.
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Option 1 is what I was thinking.
Yep, that's what I meant for running defenders.
You're probably right with outside mids
 
Golumless said:
Key Defenders: Jordan Butts, Nick Murray, Billy Frampton, Josh Worrell, Fischer McAsey, Elliot Himmelberg James Borlase

Medium defenders: Tom Doedee, Andrew McPherson, Josh Worrell, Mitch Hinge, James Borlase, Patrick Parnell

Small defenders: Luke Brown, Andrew McPherson, Patrick Parnell

Running defenders: Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Will Hamill, Wayne Milera (inj), Lachlan Sholl, Patrick Parnell

Wingmen: Jordan Dawson, Paul Seedsman, Lachlan Sholl, Brayden Cook, WIll Hamill, Rory Sloane

Key Forwards: Riley Thilthorpe, Taylor Walker, Darcy Fogarty, Elliot Himmelberg, Fischer McAsey, Billy Frampton

Medium Forwards: Lachlan Gollant, Brayden Cook, Shane McAdam, Rory Sloane,

Small Forwards: Ned McHenry, James Rowe, Lachie Murphy, Tariek Newchurch

Midfielders: Rory Laird, Ben Keays, Harry Schoenberg, Matt Crouch, Rory Sloane, Sam Berry, Ned McHenry, Luke Pedlar, Jackson Hately, ROC Chayce Jones

Rucks: Reilly O'Brien, Kieran Strachan, Riley Thilthorpe, Billy Frampton

Would be my guess at how it shakes out currently.
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For completeness Andrew McPherson still in in 2x
 
I edited this to include ppl in roles they *could* play. I’m not saying they *should* play there, just that they could if we were stretched in that position.

I guess not surprising but there’s huge overlap in my running defenders and outside mids/wing list.

I will continue to beat my too-many-kpds drum. We have almost as much depth in KPDs as in mids!



Key Defenders: Jordan Butts, Nick Murray, Billy Frampton, Fischer McAsey, Elliot Himmelberg, James Borlase, Josh Worrell, Tom Doedee

Medium defenders: Tom Doedee, Josh Worrell, Mitch Hinge, James Borlase

Small defenders: Luke Brown, Andrew McPherson, Patrick Parnell, Chayce Jones

Running defenders: Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Will Hamill, Wayne Milera (inj), Lachlan Sholl, Patrick Parnell, Rory Laird

Outside Mids/Wingmen: Paul Seedsman, Brayden Cook, Lachlan Sholl, Will Hamill, Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Wayne Milera

Key Forwards: Riley Thilthorpe, Darcy Fogarty, Elliot Himmelberg, Fischer McAsey, Billy Frampton, Taylor Walker

Medium Forwards: Shane McAdam, Lachlan Gollant, Rory Sloane, Brayden Cook, Sam Berry,

Small Forwards: James Rowe, Ned McHenry, Lachie Murphy, Tariek Newchurch

Inside Midfielders: Ben Keays, Rory Laird, Harry Schoenberg, Matt Crouch, Sam Berry, Ned McHenry, Luke Pedlar, Rory Sloane, Jackson Hately

Rucks: Reilly O'Brien, Kieran Strachan, Riley Thilthorpe, Billy Frampton
 
DEFENCE
Key Defenders: Jordan Butts, Nick Murray, Billy Frampton, Fischer McAsey, Elliot Himmelberg, James Borlase, Josh Worrell, Tom Doedee

Medium defenders: Tom Doedee, Josh Worrell, Mitch Hinge, James Borlase

Small defenders: Luke Brown, Andrew McPherson, Patrick Parnell, Chayce Jones

Running defenders: Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Will Hamill, Wayne Milera (inj), Lachlan Sholl, Patrick Parnell, Rory Laird

MIDFIELD
Outside Mids/Wingmen: Paul Seedsman, Jordan Dawson, Brayden Cook, Lachlan Sholl, Will Hamill, Brodie Smith, Chayce Jones, Wayne Milera

Inside Midfielders: Ben Keays, Rory Laird, Harry Schoenberg, Matt Crouch, Sam Berry, Ned McHenry, Luke Pedlar, Rory Sloane, Jackson Hately

Rucks: Reilly O'Brien, Kieran Strachan, Riley Thilthorpe, Billy Frampton

FORWARDS
Key Forwards: Riley Thilthorpe, Darcy Fogarty, Elliot Himmelberg, Fischer McAsey, Billy Frampton, Taylor Walker

Medium Forwards: Shane McAdam, Lachlan Gollant, Rory Sloane, Brayden Cook, Sam Berry,

Small Forwards: James Rowe, Ned McHenry, Lachie Murphy, Tariek Newchurch


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