Adelaide Crows Premiers of 93

[Don]

Seeing as both Carlton and Essendon where found cheating the salary cap should the Crows be declared the Premiers and be given the cup.

 

[Bloodstained Angel]

Most definitely

Besides, the Crows were the best team that year anyway.

 

[Arch]

the crows can stuff off and be given a video copy of their prelim final.

essendon can breach what they want, and evryone else can go to hell.

A.

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BOMBERS REIGN SUPREME.

 

[Dave]

Don,
how do you know they weren't over the cap too? BA, how do you rate them as the best team of the year when they finished 5th? Aside from the two GF teams, North were far and away a better team (pretty stiff to miss out on a top two finsish too).

 

[Don]

Because all the other teams were caught and fined. Gold medals are stripped for cheating and retrospective Brownlows awarded. Whichever way Adelaide must be considered the team of the 90s.

 

[mtffafl]

Adelaide is nowhere near the side of the 90's.

They had 2 fluke premierships they didn't deserve - neither year were they in the best 3 sides for the year.

Other than that, finals appearances have been minimal and they were appalling in their first 2 years, not very good in their 3rd (93), useless 94, 95 and 96.

Adelaide would be approx. 5th best team of the 90's, if that.

2 Undeserving premierships won by a weak side is all they can claim.

West Coast or North would have to be the side of the 90's... 2 very deserving premierships each as well as at least 1 more GF appearance.

And West Coast never missed the finals.

West Coast is the best of the 90's
then Kangas
then a few other teams could be bottled together, with Adelaide being the lowest of them.


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Obviosuly a few people in SA need to get their egos checked.

Matt

A Collingwood supporter who thinks we won't make the 8, but are proud of our efforts so far.

 

[Dave]

No Don, all the other clubs weren't caught, they took advantage of the league's moratorium (just becuase they weren't caught doesn't mean they weren't cheating) and escaped penalty, so quite possibly Adelaide were over the cap as well. You want to believe they were the team of the 90's go ahead, I wont lose any sleep. Maybe I'll go watch that '93 prelim again (beats watching last years!!).

 

[Power Mad]

Good TROLL there, Don - sucked in quite a few of them.

 

[Don]

Thanks Powermad I was going to go after you next and suggest that the cows be considered The Port Adelaide of the AFL as 3 flags in Ten years was the equal of 30 over 100 years.

 

[Dave]

Don't dislocate your shoulders there boys, troll baiting can be just as much fun as trolling....

 

[The Dutchman!]

Matt

Don't know about North have two very deserved flags. I'd go with one and one they should've won (98). But 99 deserved with you're the third best team???

I mean come on - sure congratulations for the taking care of business North and winning the thing but erm.. deserved... hello!

Incidently, regardless of the myriad of dickhead Collingwood supporters coming out their collective coma and ranting on here, I think a resurgent Collingwood is very good for football (can't believe I'm saying this). I also like the way their going about their footy - remind me of the late 98 bombers... in short Noel Judkins is a genius!

Dutch

 

[mtffafl]

Judkins is a very good recruiter.

But whoever is at West Coast and continually gets them highly skilled players like Braun, Read, and the new brigade...

West Coast's recruiting has been the best over the past 7 or 8 years. Maybe they're at an advantage over there???

matt

Mayeb your right about the 99 flag... Brisbane certainly seemed a better team... but more deserved than the Adelaide ones

 

[Don]

Braun And Read are good runners but shocking kicks, terrible users of the pill

 

[Power Mad]

Don,

Difference being that Port Magpies fans never carry on about flags we *should* have won - we've got plenty of the real thing (36 btw).

 

[Don]

But the Cows did win the others cheated

 

[The Dutchman!]

PM

Again, I refer you to the Regional League's board. This 36 flags stuff is terrific but we may as well be talking about the Mildura Imps for all anyone cares on a AFL forum.

Other than that good to have you back after your brief hiatis.

Dutch

 

[Power Mad]

Hey Dykeboy,

Who died and made you the Queen (is that why you're in London)? I was responding to the originator of this topic, so pick his nits instead.

Tally Ho!

 

[Eagle_Fan]

Woah Don! Obviously I've got to object! It's true that Brauny & Read aren't 'natural' talents (like Cousins, say) and have developed over the past few years, but they are not bad 'users of the pill'. Given that our midfield is based on two players with really bad kicks (Banfield -though has improved a lot, and Cuz -his disposal is shocking at times. Won't win a brownlow till it's fixed up), they are two of our better users of the ball! [Braun will be a star, provided his knees don't give in]

Anyway, that's way off topic..... (sorry Dutchy

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[c]

Who are the great underachievers of the '90's.
Yep! you guessed it COLLINGWOOD.
If our 2 flags were flukes what about the 1990 one?
Look at our finals record it is impeccable:

1993:3 finals (1 win/2 losses)
1997:4 finals (4 wins 1 Premiership)
1998:4 finals (3wins / 1 loss /1 premiership against the the unbeatable Roos.
Our record speaks for itself I don't even know why I had to spell it out to you!!!!!!!!
11 Finals matches for 2 FLAGS THAT'S A DAMN GOOD STRIKE RATE IN ANYONE'S LANGUAGE EVEN YOURS.

Originally posted by mtffafl:
Adelaide is nowhere near the side of the 90's.

They had 2 fluke premierships they didn't deserve - neither year were they in the best 3 sides for the year.

Other than that, finals appearances have been minimal and they were appalling in their first 2 years, not very good in their 3rd (93), useless 94, 95 and 96.

Adelaide would be approx. 5th best team of the 90's, if that.

2 Undeserving premierships won by a weak side is all they can claim.

West Coast or North would have to be the side of the 90's... 2 very deserving premierships each as well as at least 1 more GF appearance.

And West Coast never missed the finals.

West Coast is the best of the 90's
then Kangas
then a few other teams could be bottled together, with Adelaide being the lowest of them.


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Obviosuly a few people in SA need to get their egos checked.

Matt

A Collingwood supporter who thinks we won't make the 8, but are proud of our efforts so far.

 

[Joel]

You absoloute fool C!
I seem to remember Collingwood winning most of their games in 1990, including a 9 wins in a row at some stage. A Fluke? I don't think so...get your facts straight before making any comments about 1990, or any other year that matter. The facts is, how could Collingwood be the under achievers if they really haven't a decent team since at least 1994, when they last made the finals.
Also how could Adelaide be the team of the 90s if they made the finals only in 3 years? Yeah right! You might have a good strike rate when you make the finals but they doesn't make Adelaide the team of the 90s. However, I strongly believe that West Coast should be awarded the team of the 1990s purely on consistencesy, North werent a great team really until around 95-96.

 

[Eagle_Fan]

Yeah, but we weren't a good team from ~95 onwards remember. (But our bad form was still better than their bad form

) I still believe we were the team of the ninties, but it doesn't really mean anything does it?

C- your post was a joke, right? Finals records only count when you play in the finals consistantly. According to your rationale, the best team of the last decade could hypothetically be a team who finished on the bottom of the ladder 8 years, but won the flag in the other two.

And while I don't want to start the good all season vs good finals run arguement again, (really), I don't think it's fair to say Adelaide don't deserve their flags. Maintaining good enough form all season so you actually make the finals is hard enough (just ask Freo!), but to actually peak (or play at their team best) in the last few games of the season, is an excellent achievement, and definately not a 'fluke'. But to be clearly the best for the whole season, and maintain that form in the finals (as some teams -woof- can't seem to do) is also more than worthy of a flag.

Besides, right now Adelaide are worthy of anything......

 

[The Dutchman!]

PM

I'll mention that Dykeboy comeback to my wife tonight - I'm sure she'll find it hilarious as well.

Not up to your normal standards of wit there PM - the ol' Imps comment musta hit a nerve..

 

[Don]

So by the fact that you all attack the other teams then you agree with me Adelaide are entitled to claim 3 Premierships in the 90s, making them thes team of the 90s. As a result of this they can claim to be the Port Adelaide of the AFL.

PS Braun and Read go long all the time because they cannot hit targets they are shockers and I have watched them play, that is why they both went so late in the draft.

 

[CrowFan]

This is a such a stupid post!

We didn't win in '93, and there is no point harping on about it. Port lost in 84 to a team ranked 5th, but who cares?? You made up for it, and so did the crows. Enough said.

 

[Power Mad]

Agreed, but don't let Rembrandt catch you discussing it here