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Seems like a weird thing to do given the rooms will face the other way.
There's s**t tons of space around, so why build it into the stadium structure? Why not just build it next door?
Part of why this is even able to be considered is that it doesn't further encroach on parklands - it's still entirely within the oval precinct.
 

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The merit of this plan is debatable

However the aesthetic is terrible. The Eastern looking from King William st side is such a beautiful looking stadium building.

Plonking this structure there will ruin it.

Why not put it at the North West near the Northern entry. Wont interrupt any views and could improve the look of the ground from the outside of that end.

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Seems like a weird thing to do given the rooms will face the other way.
There's s**t tons of space around, so why build it into the stadium structure? Why not just build it next door?
In Adelaide the Parklands Preservation Society or whatever they call themselves these days, believe that the Parklands are more sacred than the Jews believe how sacred the Wailing Wall is. That's how tough it is to build anything on the Parklands. Its amazing how relatively smoothly AO re-development went thru, but it took an act of parliament to make sure it happened and the fact there was an existing structure there.
 
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I don't mind the idea, although as a visitor, not sure when I'd think it was a great idea to stay at Adelaide Oval vs. anywhere else in the city (Test Match... maybe), I guess I'm just not their market. Be good if it included something for non-guests at ground level.

But I'm not loving the design we've seen, I'm sure it will look much better in person, but the brown low rise look is giving me a 80's motel feel crossed with the back of the Footy Park. Obviously it will look a lot more integrated from ground level than it does in the images from above though.
 

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In Adelaide the Parklands Preservation society or whatever they call themselves these days, believe that the Parklands are more sacred than the Jews believe how sacred the Wailing Wall is. That's how tough it is to build anything on the Parklands. Its amazing how relatively smoothly AO re l development went thru back it took an act of parliament to make sure it happened and the fact there was an existing structure there.
Back when Col Light designed the Park Lands it was primarily for defence if the city and recreational pursuits.

In his day recreational pursuits required minimal infrastructure. Hence development was kept to a minimum.

Being a visionary I would bet Light would be more than happy for the Park Lands to be used for stadiums and past times that require infrastructure. Especially the underutilised and unkempt portions

This is what annoys me about the Park Lands preservation people. They have completely misinterpreted the reasoning for the Park Lands

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Back when Col Light designed the Park Lands it was primarily for defence if the city and recreational pursuits.

In his day recreational pursuits required minimal infrastructure. Hence development was kept to a minimum.

Being a visionary I would bet Light would be more than happy for the Park Lands to be used for stadiums and past times that require infrastructure. Especially the underutilised and unkempt portions

This is what annoys me about the Park Lands preservation people. They have completely misinterpreted the reasoning for the Park Lands

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Yep the Parklands outer boundaries, were made more than the distance a cannon ball could travel and therefore not hit buildings, when he designed the city
 

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The lustre of AO is starting to wear off and this can be directly attributed to the SMA's greed. Their price gouging, their insatiable appetite to squeeze every cent out of the rank and file punter, their card only payment system, ever decreasing choice and diminishing service standards is turning people away. They are slowly but surely killing the golden goose and destroying the goodwill the people of SA have towards the place.
 

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The lustre of AO is starting to wear off and this can be directly attributed to the SMA's greed. Their price gouging, their insatiable appetite to squeeze every cent out of the rank and file punter, their card only payment system, ever decreasing choice and diminishing service standards is turning people away. They are slowly but surely killing the golden goose and destroying the goodwill the people of SA have towards the place.
The hotel will fix all that..............

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The lustre of AO is starting to wear off and this can be directly attributed to the SMA's greed. Their price gouging, their insatiable appetite to squeeze every cent out of the rank and file punter, their card only payment system, ever decreasing choice and diminishing service standards is turning people away. They are slowly but surely killing the golden goose and destroying the goodwill the people of SA have towards the place.
At the time the SMA was formed, I thought it was great that football/cricket people would be running the oval and not some professional venue management group (ala Optus Stadium, Docklands until a few years ago etc), so we wouldn't have the issues the Docklands tenants had.

For the SMA to be that incompetent that they make professional venue management groups look good really says something.

Mind you, look at who's running the SMA.
 

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Just build it. Allow visiting teams to stay there. I dont think it looks that bad really.

After a few weeks no one would know its a hotel. Just the outside of the ground.
 

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I thought it was the city end until the development?
Only been the last 5 years they started calling it the river end?

But let me guess, they also ****ed up cathedral end?
Always been the River End. The old Chappel Stands even had the kiosks at either end named the Cathedral (southern end) and River (northern end).
 

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I thought it was the city end until the development?
Only been the last 5 years they started calling it the river end?

But let me guess, they also ****ed up cathedral end?
Nope it's always been the River End. Back in the old days of just the centre members' pavillion and until they built the Creswell Stand at the southern end you would have been able to see the banks from the ground and if you got it right you could lose the ball into the drink.
 

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Pre the redevelopment it was always referred to as either the River Torrens End, or River End for short.

The Riverbank Stand was supposed to be named the Torrens Stand and they actually put up some plaques/ billboards or whatever you call them, with the words Torrens Stand up at AO about 3 or 4 weeks before the Dec 2013 test against the Poms, but 2 weeks before the test the government named it the Riverbank Stand as they had plans to redevelop the whole of the southern end of the River Torrens from Festival Plaza to the Morphett St. They wanted to promote the Riverbank precinct like South Bank in Brisbane and Southbank in Melbourne. Once the change happened, they covered up those plaques/ billboards. They didnt actually put up the lettering on the stand until February 2014.
 

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Still disappoints me that the team names on the scoreboard aren't in team colours like for international/state cricket. Would be good to have them up the top but even where they are - use some colour!
 

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McArthur Recruitment, who provide staff for Ticketek at the ground, directed staff to tell indigenous people a game was sold out when it really wasn’t.

The incident took place during a curtain raiser between two indigenous teams.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-29/adelaide-oval-box-office-staff-discrimination-claims/10948084?pfmredir=sm
Disgraceful.

Responsible person merely stood down for two weeks. They should be sacked, named and shamed.

To turn away patrons based on the colour of their skin is horid.

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