Adelaide v Brisbane: teams

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Hmmm, can recall Bassett struggling against other big players too. Wasn't he playing on Quentin Leach when he kicked 5 goals? Too many coopers at lunch, so I will need to get back to you on others... but IMO it is not a myth.

Except the West Coast were dominating the midfield when all taht happened and Leach would have got kicks on King Kong at that stage.

I had two Coopers at lunch as well. :d

We may have to agree to disagree

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Jars458
Except the West Coast were dominating the midfield when all taht happened and Leach would have got kicks on King Kong at that stage.

I had two Coopers at lunch as well. :d

We may have to agree to disagree

Yeah, think will agree to disagree - just a pity we are not doing it over a few more drinks!

 

[ScottWelshLuva]

There is one player we really have to watch...and that's Jarrad Brennan.

That kid is an absolute gun!!!! Geez, I feel sorry for the dude thats gonna stand him.

 

[footychick]

Originally posted by dezzmo
I heard on the radio that "someone" has a back problem and is in doubt - looking at who they're taking iI would say its a midfield/run-with player - my guess is Stenglein - but thats only a shot in the dark.

I heard the same thing on 10 news...they said that they thought it was Ruccioto but they didn't know for sure...hope not

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by footychick
I heard the same thing on 10 news...they said that they thought it was Ruccioto but they didn't know for sure...hope not

I listened to Phil Harper on 5AA today and he said that it was one of our better players. He was talking to KG and COrnesy during the trainig session and he said that the player looks OK on the training track and they should go in as named. Massie is most likely to hop on a plane tommorow afternoon.

If "the player" still feels back soreness tommorrow then we are in even more strife than we were yesterday.

 

[DaveW]

Wasn't Leach the Freo player who kicked a goal after the siren in back in their early days? (97 or 98) Can't remember him doing anything else of note.

Anyway if you're referring to last year's match against West Coast, that was Quinten Lynch (apparently not Bassett's favourite surname).

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I listened to Phil Harper on 5AA today and he said that it was one of our better players. He was talking to KG and COrnesy during the trainig session and he said that the player looks OK on the training track and they should go in as named. Massie is most likely to hop on a plane tommorow afternoon.

If "the player" still feels back soreness tommorrow then we are in even more strife than we were yesterday.

The Crows are being very cute on this one - naturally. I've had it from one normally very reliable source that it is Roo and also from another equally normally very reliable source that it is Stenglein.

Obviously one of them or maybe even both is going to prove to be unreliable!!

I heard Phil Harper's comments too Stiffy. I hope his judgement was correct.

If it's the Roo and he doesn't play our chance of winning will nose-dive from 30 - 70 to about 5 - 95.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by macca23
The Crows are being very cute on this one - naturally. I've had it from one normally very reliable source that it is Roo and also from another equally normally very reliable source that it is Stenglein.

Obviously one of them or maybe even both is going to prove to be unreliable!!

I heard Phil Harper's comments too Stiffy. I hope his judgement was correct.

If it's the Roo and he doesn't play our chance of winning will nose-dive from 30 - 70 to about 5 - 95.

My usually reliable source tells me its Roo Although he made me look like a fool earlier in the week when he said Marsh will get a game. As much as I rate Stenglein, he would be easier player to replace. You are right, if either one of these blokes pull out our chaces diminish dramatically.

 

[crowsfan]

This is not what we need.

It's been shocking these last few weeks with all these injuries. Only two months ago, we nearly had a full list to choose from (Welsh being the only one still recovering from OP I think), and now it seems we've got more forward problems than last year. Only goes to show how quickly things can change in footy.

Our luck has got to turn around sooner than later, one would hope. Gotta keep our heads down, and fingers crossed Lady Luck will soon shine down on us once again.

 

[Stiffy_18]

McDonald is out of the Brisbane side. We should go in unchanged but Roo does have a sore back which would suggest that he will play up forward for the whole game.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

If Roo is out we are completely stuffed. Even if Stinger is missing it could turn out to be very nasty. We need both on the park tonight if we are any chance.

 

[LionsForever]

it would've been better if both Jonathon Brown & Wayne Carey were playing.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Jars458
You would have thought it but does he?

Height yes

When though, was any time you saw McGregor win a contest of strength - answer is never.

Bassett may have struggled in the past but only when the game has been played on Lynch's terms

Bassett will try and do what he did to hall in SYdney. Play ten metres in front and try and read the play.

He deserves first crack in my view.

It was clear early in the game that the Hound was struggling with the strength of Lynch. Why was a change not made when it obvious Lynch was becoming a matchwinner (the Lions bombing it to him 1 on 1 at every opportunity). We had nothing to lose my switching either McGregor or the under-used Biglands on to Lynch. Sure Bassett competed hard, but he had a look of resignation on his face after he gave away the 1st free kick. I'm not happy at Lynch kicked 7 goals & we made no changes to attempt to reduce his goals.

 

[crowsfan]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
It was clear early in the game that the Hound was struggling with the strength of Lynch. Why was a change not made when it obvious Lynch was becoming a matchwinner (the Lions bombing it to him 1 on 1 at every opportunity). We had nothing to lose my switching either McGregor or the under-used Biglands on to Lynch. Sure Bassett competed hard, but he had a look of resignation on his face after he gave away the 1st free kick. I'm not happy at Lynch kicked 7 goals & we made no changes to attempt to reduce his goals.

Completely agree. For sure, you have to give a theory/game plan a chance, but by half time, enough time had been given to see if this plan would work and it was obvious that Bassett was losing out to Lynch. So the question begs: if something is not working, why persist with it??? It's more to do with principles of common sense. If plan A is given a chance and doesn't work, it would be stupid to persist with plan A if you did not even try alternatives plan B, C etc.

I think Ayres made an obvious and stupid mistake in not trying the other defenders, like Kane mentioned, in McGregor or even Biglands.

 

[Stiffy_18]

We seemed to be missing the fact that Leppitsch was moved to CHF. I think if we moved McGregor on Lynch then Bassett would have gone on Leppitsch. Then instead of one mismatch we would have 2. I think Biglands would have been the obvious choice but then you don't have a back up ruckman.

This might sound silly but IMHO the reason we lost is not because Lynch kicked 7 but because we didn't kick straight. You need to have a conversion tate of 60% to win, we had well below 50%.

7 goals to Lynch is not the proper indication. 2 of those goals were from free kicks that were NOT there.

In the end we didn't kick straight and we ran out of worriors. We only had 1 player on the interchange.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
We seemed to be missing the fact that Leppitsch was moved to CHF. I think if we moved McGregor on Lynch then Bassett would have gone on Leppitsch. Then instead of one mismatch we would have 2. I think Biglands would have been the obvious choice but then you don't have a back up ruckman.

This might sound silly but IMHO the reason we lost is not because Lynch kicked 7 but because we didn't kick straight. You need to have a conversion tate of 60% to win, we had well below 50%.

7 goals to Lynch is not the proper indication. 2 of those goals were from free kicks that were NOT there.

In the end we didn't kick straight and we ran out of worriors. We only had 1 player on the interchange.

Stiffy don't get me wrong, our kicking was shocking again like last week. However, Brisbane had one clear winner in attack - Lynch - who was responsible for most of their goals. If we could have shut him down, we may have won. To do nothing is stupid IMO.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Stiffy don't get me wrong, our kicking was shocking again like last week. However, Brisbane had one clear winner in attack - Lynch - who was responsible for most of their goals. If we could have shut him down, we may have won. To do nothing is stupid IMO.

I understand what you are saying Kane but if we moved McGregor to Lynch we would have had to move Bassett to Leppitsch. This creates 2 mismatches instead of one. Lynch got his goals in one on one contests where strength was the major factor. McGregor and Bassett are NOT strong enough to go with Lynch.

I said it earlier this week I would have played Biglands on Lynch and thats why I tought that recalling Marsh to relieve Clarke in short ruck stints was the go.

If we moved Biglands on Lynch who would have relieved Clarke in the ruck?????? Next time we play then I think we would either need to play with 3 ruckman or Play Carey at CHF, Perrie at FF and Stevens at FB on Lynch otherwise he will still get his bag.

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18

This might sound silly but IMHO the reason we lost is not because Lynch kicked 7 but because we didn't kick straight. You need to have a conversion tate of 60% to win, we had well below 50%.

7 goals to Lynch is not the proper indication. 2 of those goals were from free kicks that were NOT there.

In the end we didn't kick straight and we ran out of worriors. We only had 1 player on the interchange.

It is as simple as you called it Stiffy. Kick straight and we win the game.

Lynch did get a couple of early birthday presents, but we just didn't have the player to stand him. McGregor had to take on that ugly red-headed sniper Leppitsch (who took out Begley when he was unprotected) when he was moved forward, and Biglands had to share the ruck.

The nearest we could have got to it would have been to play Biglands there when Clarke was rucking and Bassett back there when Biglands went on the ball.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by macca23
The nearest we could have got to it would have been to play Biglands there when Clarke was rucking and Bassett back there when Biglands went on the ball.

The only thing with that theory is that Biglands would be stuffed from wresling with Lynch and would be ineffective in ruck against a VERY impressive young ruckman in Charman.

If we had a good back up ruckman we could afford to use Biglands as FB on gorillas like Lynch. A bit like what we did with Pittman.

BTW, has anybody else heard that Dean Brogan is out of contract??????

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
BTW, has anybody else heard that Dean Brogan is out of contract??????

We should have got him last year. He will cost a bit trade-wise by the end of this season. Also Port would be mad to let him go after getting rid of French and Brooks, Lade is inconsistent (but was better yesterday) and Ackland is rubbish.