Over the whole course of a disjointed and strange year, these two teams were the clear bottom 2. Both teams were close to the top 8 in 2019, and both had first year coaches in 2020. So on the face of it, it seems that they are a good comparison.
There is a consensus that both clubs are at the start of a long rebuild, and fair enough. And to their credit they have both pushed older players out the door in favour of improving their draft hand, in addition to picking up guys from other clubs.
North also don't have a coach right now.
But list wise, who do you think is better positioned at the start of the rebuild?
Obviously we don't who clubs will pick in a months time, but both clubs have great draft hands (all be it the crows is better).
Notable 23ish and under
Adelaide
Pick 1, 9, 22, 23 and probably a solid bunch of academy later round picks
Jackson Hately
, Fischer McAsey
, Schoenberg, Josh Worrell (Age 19)
Chayce Jones
, Ned Mchenry
, Will Hammill, (Age 20)
Darcy Fogarty
, Andrew Mcpherson
, (Age 21)
Jordan Gallucci
, Elliot Himmelberg, Reily Obrien, (Age 22)
Wayne Milera
, Tom Doedee
, (Age 23)
North Melbourne
Picks 2, 11, 30, 39
Flynn Perez, Charlie Comben, Jack Mahony
(age 19)
Tarryn Thomas
, Bailey Scott
, Curtis Taylor
, Atu Bosenavulagi
(age 20)
LDU, Jaidyn Stephenson
, Will Walker
, Kyron Hayden
, Tristan Xerri
, (Age 21)
Jy Simpkin
, Nick Larkey
, Cam Zurhaar (Age 22)
Ben Mckay
(Age 22)
So, at the start or close enough to of the clubs rebuilds, how are both teams placed in terms of young talent?
From a North perspective, its actually an exciting time. I've never seen a full rebuild using the draft, and surely it will have ups and downs, but to think we will be able to add the most elite of elite juniors over the next 2 years, to the talent assembled above, i can't help but be optimistic for the future.
There is a consensus that both clubs are at the start of a long rebuild, and fair enough. And to their credit they have both pushed older players out the door in favour of improving their draft hand, in addition to picking up guys from other clubs.
North also don't have a coach right now.
But list wise, who do you think is better positioned at the start of the rebuild?
Obviously we don't who clubs will pick in a months time, but both clubs have great draft hands (all be it the crows is better).
Notable 23ish and under
Adelaide
Pick 1, 9, 22, 23 and probably a solid bunch of academy later round picks
Jackson Hately
PLAYERCARDSTART
6
Jackson Hately
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 191cm
- Wt
- 85kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 15.3
- 4star
- K
- 8.5
- 3star
- HB
- 6.8
- 4star
- M
- 4.8
- 5star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- CL
- 0.7
- 3star
- D
- 14.2
- 3star
- K
- 8.4
- 3star
- HB
- 5.8
- 3star
- M
- 4.8
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 2star
- CL
- 0.4
- 3star
- D
- 17.2
- 5star
- K
- 8.6
- 4star
- HB
- 8.6
- 5star
- M
- 5.6
- 5star
- T
- 3.0
- 5star
- CL
- 0.8
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
3
Fischer Mcasey
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 96kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 6.8
- 2star
- K
- 3.3
- 1star
- HB
- 3.5
- 3star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 1.3
- 3star
- MG
- 102.3
- 2star
- D
- 6.8
- 1star
- K
- 3.3
- 1star
- HB
- 3.5
- 2star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 1.3
- 2star
- MG
- 102.3
- 2star
- D
- 7.2
- 2star
- K
- 3.6
- 2star
- HB
- 3.6
- 3star
- M
- 1.8
- 2star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- MG
- 114.8
- 2star
PLAYERCARDEND
Chayce Jones
PLAYERCARDSTART
1
Chayce Jones
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 182cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- D/M
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 10.0
- 3star
- K
- 5.4
- 2star
- HB
- 4.6
- 3star
- M
- 1.7
- 2star
- T
- 1.9
- 4star
- MG
- 178.6
- 3star
- D
- 8.9
- 2star
- K
- 4.9
- 2star
- HB
- 4.0
- 3star
- M
- 1.4
- 2star
- T
- 1.6
- 3star
- MG
- 143.3
- 3star
- D
- 9.4
- 3star
- K
- 4.4
- 2star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 1.6
- 2star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- MG
- 175.0
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
25
Ned Mchenry
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 179cm
- Wt
- 81kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 9.7
- 2star
- K
- 4.0
- 2star
- HB
- 5.7
- 4star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 9.7
- 2star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 5.7
- 3star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 2.3
- 3star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 10.0
- 3star
- K
- 3.6
- 2star
- HB
- 6.4
- 4star
- M
- 2.6
- 3star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
Darcy Fogarty
PLAYERCARDSTART
32
Darcy Fogarty
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 194cm
- Wt
- 100kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 8.5
- 2star
- K
- 5.7
- 2star
- HB
- 2.8
- 2star
- M
- 3.7
- 4star
- T
- 1.7
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 4star
- D
- 6.3
- 1star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 2.3
- 2star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.3
- 3star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 8.0
- 2star
- K
- 5.4
- 2star
- HB
- 2.6
- 3star
- M
- 3.4
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
36
Andrew Mcpherson
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 187cm
- Wt
- 86kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 10.5
- 3star
- K
- 6.0
- 2star
- HB
- 4.5
- 3star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 1.5
- 3star
- MG
- 118.5
- 2star
- D
- 10.5
- 3star
- K
- 6.0
- 2star
- HB
- 4.5
- 3star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 1.5
- 2star
- MG
- 118.5
- 2star
- D
- 10.5
- 3star
- K
- 6.0
- 3star
- HB
- 4.5
- 4star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 1.5
- 4star
- MG
- 118.5
- 2star
PLAYERCARDEND
Jordan Gallucci
PLAYERCARDSTART
7
Jordan Gallucci
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 182cm
- Wt
- 78kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.8
- 3star
- K
- 9.0
- 3star
- HB
- 2.8
- 2star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.1
- 4star
- G
- 0.7
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 12.0
- 3star
- K
- 8.8
- 4star
- HB
- 3.2
- 3star
- M
- 2.2
- 3star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- G
- 0.8
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
Wayne Milera
PLAYERCARDSTART
30
Wayne Milera
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 184cm
- Wt
- 88kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 16.9
- 4star
- K
- 10.0
- 4star
- HB
- 6.8
- 4star
- M
- 4.3
- 4star
- T
- 2.5
- 4star
- MG
- 265.3
- 4star
- D
- 15.0
- 4star
- K
- 8.5
- 3star
- HB
- 6.5
- 4star
- M
- 3.5
- 3star
- T
- 1.0
- 2star
- MG
- 282.0
- 4star
- D
- 11.4
- 3star
- K
- 5.8
- 3star
- HB
- 5.6
- 4star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
- MG
- 182.0
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
12
Tom Doedee
- Age
- 27
- Ht
- 190cm
- Wt
- 90kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 17.1
- 4star
- K
- 8.5
- 3star
- HB
- 8.6
- 5star
- M
- 5.6
- 5star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- MG
- 228.8
- 4star
- D
- 15.3
- 4star
- K
- 9.5
- 4star
- HB
- 5.8
- 3star
- M
- 6.3
- 5star
- T
- 1.3
- 2star
- MG
- 228.8
- 3star
- D
- 19.8
- 5star
- K
- 10.4
- 4star
- HB
- 9.4
- 5star
- M
- 6.6
- 5star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
North Melbourne
Picks 2, 11, 30, 39
Flynn Perez, Charlie Comben, Jack Mahony
PLAYERCARDSTART
42
Jack Mahony
- Age
- 22
- Ht
- 177cm
- Wt
- 73kg
- Pos.
- M/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 8.4
- 2star
- K
- 2.6
- 1star
- HB
- 5.8
- 4star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 8.4
- 2star
- K
- 2.6
- 1star
- HB
- 5.8
- 3star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.2
- 3star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 8.4
- 3star
- K
- 2.6
- 1star
- HB
- 5.8
- 4star
- M
- 1.0
- 1star
- T
- 2.2
- 4star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
Tarryn Thomas
PLAYERCARDSTART
26
Tarryn Thomas
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 190cm
- Wt
- 83kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 5.3
- 2star
- HB
- 5.7
- 4star
- M
- 2.1
- 2star
- T
- 3.3
- 5star
- CL
- 0.9
- 3star
- D
- 7.8
- 2star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 1.3
- 1star
- T
- 3.2
- 4star
- CL
- 0.2
- 2star
- D
- 12.8
- 4star
- K
- 6.2
- 3star
- HB
- 6.6
- 4star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 3.8
- 5star
- CL
- 0.4
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
8
Bailey Scott
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 186cm
- Wt
- 77kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 10.6
- 3star
- K
- 5.8
- 2star
- HB
- 4.9
- 4star
- M
- 3.1
- 3star
- T
- 1.5
- 3star
- CL
- 0.9
- 3star
- D
- 8.0
- 2star
- K
- 5.0
- 2star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 1.8
- 3star
- CL
- 1.3
- 4star
- D
- 11.8
- 3star
- K
- 6.0
- 3star
- HB
- 5.8
- 4star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 1.2
- 3star
- CL
- 0.6
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
5
Curtis Taylor
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 188cm
- Wt
- 82kg
- Pos.
- M/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 6.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 1.5
- 2star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
No current season stats available
- D
- 6.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 1.5
- 2star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- CL
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
15
Atu Bosenavulagi
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 180cm
- Wt
- 83kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 9.5
- 2star
- K
- 4.0
- 2star
- HB
- 5.5
- 4star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- MG
- 132.0
- 2star
- D
- 9.5
- 2star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 5.5
- 3star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 2.0
- 3star
- MG
- 132.0
- 2star
- D
- 9.5
- 3star
- K
- 4.0
- 2star
- HB
- 5.5
- 4star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- MG
- 132.0
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
LDU, Jaidyn Stephenson
PLAYERCARDSTART
2
Jaidyn Stephenson
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 189cm
- Wt
- 79kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 13.2
- 3star
- K
- 8.8
- 3star
- HB
- 4.4
- 3star
- M
- 4.7
- 4star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.5
- 5star
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 6.7
- 3star
- HB
- 4.3
- 3star
- M
- 3.5
- 3star
- T
- 2.7
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 5star
- D
- 12.6
- 4star
- K
- 8.0
- 3star
- HB
- 4.6
- 4star
- M
- 3.4
- 4star
- T
- 3.4
- 5star
- G
- 1.4
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
27
Will Walker
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 186cm
- Wt
- 78kg
- Pos.
- M/F
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 9.8
- 2star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
- CL
- 0.8
- 3star
No current season stats available
- D
- 9.8
- 3star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
- CL
- 0.8
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
37
Kyron Hayden
- Age
- 24
- Ht
- 186cm
- Wt
- 87kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 7.7
- 2star
- K
- 3.9
- 2star
- HB
- 3.9
- 3star
- M
- 1.7
- 2star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- MG
- 113.7
- 2star
- D
- 8.3
- 2star
- K
- 4.3
- 2star
- HB
- 4.0
- 3star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 1.5
- 2star
- MG
- 113.7
- 2star
- D
- 8.8
- 3star
- K
- 3.8
- 2star
- HB
- 5.0
- 4star
- M
- 1.2
- 2star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- MG
- 139.0
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
38
Tristan Xerri
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 201cm
- Wt
- 99kg
- Pos.
- Ruck
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 5.5
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 2.5
- 2star
- CL
- 1.0
- 3star
- HO
- 2.5
- 5star
- D
- 5.5
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 2.5
- 2star
- CL
- 1.0
- 3star
- HO
- 2.5
- 5star
- D
- 5.5
- 2star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 2.5
- 3star
- CL
- 1.0
- 3star
- HO
- 2.5
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
Jy Simpkin
PLAYERCARDSTART
12
Jy Simpkin
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 183cm
- Wt
- 77kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 16.0
- 4star
- K
- 7.9
- 3star
- HB
- 8.1
- 5star
- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 3.3
- 5star
- CL
- 2.9
- 4star
- D
- 20.6
- 5star
- K
- 11.0
- 4star
- HB
- 9.6
- 5star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 3.5
- 4star
- CL
- 5.5
- 5star
- D
- 10.0
- 3star
- K
- 5.6
- 3star
- HB
- 4.4
- 4star
- M
- 2.8
- 3star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- CL
- 0.2
- 2star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
20
Nick Larkey
- Age
- 25
- Ht
- 198cm
- Wt
- 96kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 8.5
- 2star
- K
- 4.6
- 2star
- HB
- 3.9
- 3star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 1.5
- 3star
- G
- 1.4
- 5star
- D
- 7.0
- 1star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 1.0
- 2star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 8.8
- 3star
- K
- 4.2
- 2star
- HB
- 4.6
- 4star
- M
- 3.2
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
- G
- 0.8
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
Ben Mckay
PLAYERCARDSTART
32
Ben Mckay
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 202cm
- Wt
- 104kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 7.5
- 2star
- K
- 3.7
- 1star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 2.7
- 3star
- T
- 1.7
- 4star
- MG
- 77.2
- 1star
- D
- 7.5
- 2star
- K
- 4.5
- 2star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 1.5
- 2star
- MG
- 88.5
- 2star
- D
- 7.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.4
- 2star
- HB
- 3.6
- 3star
- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- MG
- 67.8
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
So, at the start or close enough to of the clubs rebuilds, how are both teams placed in terms of young talent?
From a North perspective, its actually an exciting time. I've never seen a full rebuild using the draft, and surely it will have ups and downs, but to think we will be able to add the most elite of elite juniors over the next 2 years, to the talent assembled above, i can't help but be optimistic for the future.