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How so when its Sydney trying to pinch their events?
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Melbourne have pinched events themselves. So off the high horse.
A bit of competition is always good.
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We are way off the reservation again people.
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Something weird with your ARU figures, may not be updating properly? The total was incorrect, looks like it added the Fox figure to the total FTA, then added the metro and regional as well, effectively adding total fta twice. However the table included when I did the reply was correct. Refreshed the page and the original table is still wrong, but if I reply, the table in my reply is correct??AFL
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ARU figures are incorrect, i noticed that straight away, its been updated on industry and elsewhere, but refreshing the images no longer works here because Bigfooty automatically caches the images. The total figure is wrong.
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Last night i actually switched over and watched a bit of the RL and TBH i couldn't help but notice the distinct lack of atmosphere, a poor crowd or what appeared to be a poor crowd and the feel of what was just generally amatuer hour.
So i was not surprised when i saw these figures this morning - Fri STV #NRL #FoxSports #NRLEelsRoosters 186k
Fri STV #AFL #FoxFooty #AFLCatsSwans 323k
So i was not surprised when i saw these figures this morning - Fri STV #NRL #FoxSports #NRLEelsRoosters 186k
Fri STV #AFL #FoxFooty #AFLCatsSwans 323k
Friday night NRL numbers on Fox are weird - they've been low all year in comparison to their Saturday night numbers. Initially I thought it was because NRL fans didn't know the game was simulcast on Fox, but they don't seem to have improved as the season has gone on.
Generally Friday night AFL is Fox Footy's highest rating game, although that's partly because there are normally 2 games on Saturday night which split the audience.
Generally Friday night AFL is Fox Footy's highest rating game, although that's partly because there are normally 2 games on Saturday night which split the audience.
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Is it high definition on 9? That could have an effect considering that HD costs extra on Fox (not sure how many opt to pay the extra).
Also, others here have mentioned in the past that Fox and Nine have different commentary on the simulcast games? That might be a factor.
Maybe a level of hostility toward Murdoch or opposition to Pay TV in general? If given a choice, some might prefer to support the FTA coverage.
Just guesses.
The ARU doesn't get a mention much on this thread.
So let's talk about the poor old Force. It's been smashing it down most of the day today in Perth (had a bit of hail a few hours ago), and they're playing another home game where they'll probably get fustigated. I'm not sure what their record low crowd is, but they'd be doing well to get close to it tonight.
So let's talk about the poor old Force. It's been smashing it down most of the day today in Perth (had a bit of hail a few hours ago), and they're playing another home game where they'll probably get fustigated. I'm not sure what their record low crowd is, but they'd be doing well to get close to it tonight.
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The Eels crowds have gone steadily downhill since being done for cheating and their chances of finals kept slipping. Up to round 11 they were averaging 16.4k. 2 out of 10.
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With the penalties handed down to Parramatta in the National Rugby League yesterday, Ive laid out a ranking of the top penalties for salary cap breaches in Australian sport.
1. The Melbourne Storm (NRL 2010)
Unquestionably the king of salary cap penalties, the Melbourne Storm were heavily penalised after the National Rugby League uncovered breaches estimated to be in excess of $1.7million over five years, around $400,000 in 2009 and with a projected breach of $700,000 in 2010. The League also found that the Storm had kept a dual contract system, as well as secret side letters detailing extra payments that were apparently found in the safe of the clubs chief executive.
The Club was stripped of its 2008 and 2009 premierships (these were not awarded to the opposition clubs either), prevented from earning any competition points in 2010, forced to repay 1.1 million in prize money and fined another $500,000.
2. Parramatta Eels (NRL 2016)
In March 2016, it was revealed that the Eels had openly been discussing ways to avoid to subvert the salary cap at board level, prompting a full investigation by the National Rugby League, which later found the club had engaged in systematic cheating of the cap by offering additional payments totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars to players and securing secret third party payments.
The Club was penalised the maximum fine of $1,000,000 (the NRL had earlier offered to suspend $250,000 of the fine, but that changed when it was revealed that planning to undermine the cap had continued up until February this year), stripped of 12 competition points, stripped of its Auckland Nines win at the start of the year, and five officials were deregistered by the league. In addition, the clubs favourable points for and against differential was removed.
3. The Carlton Blues (AFL 2002)
Having had relatively minor breaches of the salary cap in 1994, 1999 and 2001 resulting in varying penalties ranging from $40,000 to $120,000 (and exclusion from the 2000 preseason draft), it was something of a surprise to no one when the Blues were caught red handed in 2002 having paid at least 4 players (Craig Bradley, Stephen O’Reilly, Stephen Silvagni and Fraser Brown), and up to 7 players under the table in previous years.
The AFL commission fined the Carlton football Club $930,000 including $872,424 for current breaches and a further $57,526 remaining from suspended sentences from breaches in 1999. In addition, the club was denied its first two selections in the 2002 National draft, as well as their second and third draft picks – their first pick would be at 45. Further the Blues were penalised the first and second round picks in the 2003 draft, and the 2002 Preseason draft
4. Canterbury Bulldogs (NRL 2002)
The Bulldogs were stripped of points and fined after the National Rugby League found them guilty of systematic breaches of the salary cap totally more than $1 million of the 2001-2002 period.
In response, the league hit back hard, fining the club $500,000 and stripping them of the 37 competition points they'd earned in 2002, relegating them to the bottom of the league ladder with 3 rounds to go, effectively ending the clubs season.
5. The Melbourne Demons (AFL 1999)
In 1999, Melbourne President Joseph Gutnick volunteered information to the Australian Football league that showed salary cap breaches totalling $810,000 between 1995 and 1998.
The League proceeded to fine the club $600,000 (of which $250,000 was suspended), and the club lost its 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks at the national draft for two years.
6. The Adelaide Crows (AFL 2012)
Allegations surfaced in 2012 that Kurt Tippett and the Adelaide Football Club had a secret arrangement that may have involved an extra $200,000 payment and the promise to trade him wherever he wanted to go.
An AFL investigation allegedly found draft tampering, salary cap breaches and implicated the club, senior officials and Kurt Tippet, as well as club sponsor, Balfours.
Adelaide was fined $300,000 and prohibited from the first two rounds of the 2013 draft - something they offered voluntarily early on - and from gaining father-son picks at that draft, however the club could trade back in to the early rounds. Steven Trigg was fined $50,000 and given 12 months suspension, John Reid was given a similar 12 months suspension, and Phil Harper was suspended for 2 months. Kurt Tippertt recieved an 11 match suspension and was not permitted to play in the preseason.
7. The Essendon Bombers (AFL 1996)
In 1996, a joint investigation between the Australian Football League and the Australian Tax Office into Essendons finances found that the club had breached the salary cap by more than $514,000 between 1991 and 1996. The investigation started when the AFL was notified of the existence of a document showing that Mark Harvey had received more than $30,000 in incentives outside of his official contract in 1997.
The Bombers were fined $388,000 for both salary cap breaches and draft tampering and hit with a further $250,000 in back taxes by the ATO. The AFL also stripped Essendon of their first two picks in the 1999 national draft and froze them out of the pre-season and rookie drafts entirely.
See the role of the player managers is being questioned:
When Sharp's regime came to power in 2013, it was bombarded by disgruntled player agents claiming they were left out of pocket from previous administrators. But instead of referring the matter to the NRL, officials instead tried to fulfil the dodgy promises and conceal their tracks.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/parramatta-eels-nrl-salary-cap-scandal-managers-and-players-the-next-focus-20160709-gq2647.html#ixzz4DxFeRwTX
I've been uncomfortable about the role of AFL player managers since Ross Lyon sidelined his manager when negotiating with Freo a few years back.
That manager was Craig Kelly who is supposedly earmarked to replace Eddie McGuire as Collingwood President when Ed calls it a day. Ross Lyon chose to make sure there was no conflict of interest for Kelly ..... then there has been the Liam Pickering legal action http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-06-...-ordered-to-pay-damages-to-exbusiness-partner ... Pickers was with IMG earlier.
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I honestly don't want to come off as some overblown w***er but do the ARU and FFA really compare to the AFL or even NRL? I can understand BBL but ARU and FFA? I don't see where the competition comes from with them.
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Internationally you would have to thing ffa are 1st with cricket and aru 2nd.
But domestically the ffa are getting belted by the bbl so i doubt they can go up against the nrl let alone the afl.
I'm talking domestically and you just hit the bulls eye here. The FFA and ARU are both being belted by a T20 league that lasts just over a month each season.
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Aru is being belted by the nrl and afl. Different seasons.
Dunno. But I watched a bit of it and it looked to be a figure very close to * all. Maybe 4000 or so.
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Super Rugby is a great comp in its own right, now spanning five countries across the world - but here in Australia it presents the AFL (or NRL) with zero competition in any way, shape or form - most rugby fans now it and aren't really in the habit of making a noise about how big Super Rugby is (although across the whole comp, their revenue streams aren't too bad).
The A-League is also small fry - but soccer fans are in the habit of trying to make out they're bigger than they are (here in Australia).
Which ever way you look at it, it's worthwhile having access to the actual numbers in case anyone is getting ahead of themselves.
The A-League is also small fry - but soccer fans are in the habit of trying to make out they're bigger than they are (here in Australia).
Which ever way you look at it, it's worthwhile having access to the actual numbers in case anyone is getting ahead of themselves.
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Super Rugbys problem here is the same thing it always has been. Too many games played overseas at stupid times that nobody can watch live or on tv at a normal hour. As a result of their joining with South Africa and New Zealand, and thus spending 2/3rds of a season over seas, they have 3/10s of bugger all of a fan base today.
Financially the ARU is no better off than the FFA, and the TV deal is less than the FFAs.
Instead of joining Super Rugby, Id have seriously looked at splitting the Reds/Waratahs or forming new sides in those areas, dropping South Africa altogether, instead of the 5 team Australian Bloc and half assed NRC we have today.
Financially the ARU is no better off than the FFA, and the TV deal is less than the FFAs.
Instead of joining Super Rugby, Id have seriously looked at splitting the Reds/Waratahs or forming new sides in those areas, dropping South Africa altogether, instead of the 5 team Australian Bloc and half assed NRC we have today.
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^ although the ARU's deal on a per club basis is pretty good compared to the A-League (5 clubs vs 10 clubs).
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Due solely to its international participation, and primarily because of rights sold in the UK.
Games played in Europe scheduled at Australian time, ho hum, the Ashes, lets play them in the dark, F1 at Monaco, the British Open ...... international sport requires effort to watch live downunder, hold the presses !!!!
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