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[WagonBang]

I think the competition from the AFL,NRL, and RU will hurt the A League Finals this year

I hear this every season and the last two seasons have had finals in April and it's been successful.

 

[Freomaniac]

I think the competition from the AFL,NRL, and RU will hurt the A League Finals this year
All the sports in Melbourne have the F1 GP to contend with this weekend as well

It wont prevent the A-league to have a sell out grand final. Again Adelaide got 50,119 in the last grand final.

 

[Parish2McGrath]

Finals are always a winner in the A-League, even in April. Will be the same again.

 

[The_Wookie]

Thursday News Headlines – March 23rd, 2017

Posted By: The_Wookie March 23, 2017

AFL

• Wed STV – AFL 360 89,000, League Teams 38,000
• Supporters are being slugged more for reserved seats in the opening round of the AFL under the dynamic pricing system, the official fans association says. Reserved seat prices have risen for six of the nine round one games under the system, which allows home teams to set those prices and raise or lower them up until game day. Some clubs had increased the cost of a seat for the opening round by as much as $12.
• Football officials will be part of a committee formed to run the WACA Ground if a co-location with cricket goes ahead under a funding proposal put to the State Government. The WACA and WA Football Commission want to build a joint administration and training facility at the ground.
• Brisbane Lions Fans Are The Least Loyal (& Actually Prefer To Watch NRL)
• Roy Morgan: Which AFL teams have the most engaged supporters? (source for the bandt report)

A-league

• Canberra FC and Tuggeranong United have joined the newly formed Australian Association of Football Clubs and were represented at its inaugural meeting in Melbourne on Monday. The National Premier League Capital Football clubs are part of the 97 of 129 NPL clubs who have joined the AAFC, while Canberra Olympic have shown interest.
• The draft annual budget for Fairfield City Council will be unveiled at chambers on Thursday evening and among the top items is funding for a stadium that could prove a game changer for football in Sydney. Fairfield Showgrounds is set to undergo the first stage of developments to include a football-specific boutique stadium with $8.5 million already pledged from the council for its upgrades. The funding pledged towards renovations could soar close to $20 million if the council is successful in its request for state government co-funding.

NRL

• Wed STV – Queenslanders Only 52,000 League Life 47,000, NRL 360 43,000

Super Rugby

• RUGBY Union Players’ Association president Dean Mumm is disappointed at the lack of player input into any potential removal of an Australian Super Rugby franchise.
• Western Force have launched their radical multi-million dollar fan ownership scheme aimed at securing the club’s Super Rugby future. The Own The Force campaign, currently on track to raise $7 to $8 million, comes on top of a $6 million four-year sponsorship deal with the Road Safety Commission, and would make the club the strongest financially in Australian Super Rugby.
• The Western Force today will launch their Green Bay Packers-style prospectus to the public as the Perth club attempts one of the most ambitious money-raising ventures ever in Australian sport in a bid to avoid being jettisoned from Super Rugby.

General

• ANZ Stadium underwent a dramatic overhaul for NRL after Adele and Justin Bieber concerts. More than 20 workers have toiled for seven days to clean up after the concerts, getting rid of damaged grass, levelling the playing surface and running in new turf.

 

[NoobPie]

Thursday News Headlines – March 23rd, 2017

Posted By: The_Wookie March 23, 2017

AFL

• Wed STV – AFL 360 89,000, League Teams 38,000
• Supporters are being slugged more for reserved seats in the opening round of the AFL under the dynamic pricing system, the official fans association says. Reserved seat prices have risen for six of the nine round one games under the system, which allows home teams to set those prices and raise or lower them up until game day. Some clubs had increased the cost of a seat for the opening round by as much as $12.
• Football officials will be part of a committee formed to run the WACA Ground if a co-location with cricket goes ahead under a funding proposal put to the State Government. The WACA and WA Football Commission want to build a joint administration and training facility at the ground.
• Brisbane Lions Fans Are The Least Loyal (& Actually Prefer To Watch NRL)
• Roy Morgan: Which AFL teams have the most engaged supporters? (source for the bandt report)

A-league

• Canberra FC and Tuggeranong United have joined the newly formed Australian Association of Football Clubs and were represented at its inaugural meeting in Melbourne on Monday. The National Premier League Capital Football clubs are part of the 97 of 129 NPL clubs who have joined the AAFC, while Canberra Olympic have shown interest.
• The draft annual budget for Fairfield City Council will be unveiled at chambers on Thursday evening and among the top items is funding for a stadium that could prove a game changer for football in Sydney. Fairfield Showgrounds is set to undergo the first stage of developments to include a football-specific boutique stadium with $8.5 million already pledged from the council for its upgrades. The funding pledged towards renovations could soar close to $20 million if the council is successful in its request for state government co-funding.

NRL

• Wed STV – Queenslanders Only 52,000 League Life 47,000, NRL 360 43,000

Super Rugby

• RUGBY Union Players’ Association president Dean Mumm is disappointed at the lack of player input into any potential removal of an Australian Super Rugby franchise.
• Western Force have launched their radical multi-million dollar fan ownership scheme aimed at securing the club’s Super Rugby future. The Own The Force campaign, currently on track to raise $7 to $8 million, comes on top of a $6 million four-year sponsorship deal with the Road Safety Commission, and would make the club the strongest financially in Australian Super Rugby.
• The Western Force today will launch their Green Bay Packers-style prospectus to the public as the Perth club attempts one of the most ambitious money-raising ventures ever in Australian sport in a bid to avoid being jettisoned from Super Rugby.

General

• ANZ Stadium underwent a dramatic overhaul for NRL after Adele and Justin Bieber concerts. More than 20 workers have toiled for seven days to clean up after the concerts, getting rid of damaged grass, levelling the playing surface and running in new turf.

Roy Morgan's analyses are barely first year uni level - silly inferences and no insight

If you ask someone in Brisbane "which AFL team do you support", chances are a fair few of them will say the Lions of which a majority would probably be bigger supporters of the Broncos. Overlay that with (hopefully) the nadir of a long slow decline and "bingo" - turns out Lions are the least loyal supporters apparently

 

[NoobPie]

It wont prevent the A-league to have a sell out grand final. Again Adelaide got 50,119 in the last grand final.

What will is if Sydney FC host it at ANZ rather than Alliance

 

[Freomaniac]

What will is if Sydney FC host it at ANZ rather than Alliance

if the wanderers are the other team t make the grand final along with Sydney fc, it will be at ANZ

 

[NoobPie]

if the wanderers are the other team t make the grand final along with Sydney fc, it will be at ANZ

If they're not then they had better not play it at ANZ

 

[NoobPie]

This forum won't be the same until Garlic Muncher's suspension is finished

Hi Garlic, if you're out there

 

[The_Wookie]

Friday News Headlines – March 24th, 2017

Posted By: The_Wookie March 24, 2017

AFL

• Thu AFL – Cartlton v Richmond at the MCG – 73,137 for the opening game of the 2017 season
• BBL and A-League bid success prove Tasmania deserves stand-alone AFL team
• AFL powerhouse Hawthorn — which in 2015 reaped $22.6 million from unlucky punters at two gambling venues — must pay $66,838 to charity for operating poker machines without a gambling licence.
• ETIHAD Stadium ground staff have replaced a third of the playing surface ahead of Saturday’s Melbourne-St Kilda clash. The stadium has just six days to replace the grass coverage after two Adele concerts last weekend.
• the Sydney Swans have announced new partnerships with Nike, Dexus, and Science in Sport (SiS). As part of their deal with Nike, the players and coaches of the Australian Football League (AFL) team will have access to the company’s competition apparel, and the Nike Pro range. Dexus, a Sydney-based property group, will offer the club its expertise in creating effective work spaces, while SiS will fuel the Swans with its range of sports nutrition products.
• Geelong Cats have announced a three-year partnership with Willow Ware, a manufacturer of plastic goods.

NRL

• Thu NRL – Souths v Sydney at ANZ Stadium – no official crowd figures given.
• A RICH background in politics with the Bulldogs blood running through her veins has led to Anne Sinclair becoming the first female director appointed to the Canterbury board.
• The NRL wants to bump up integrity powers by gaining access to the bank accounts, tax returns and phone records of players. And the price of winning approval for the proposal could be meeting player demands for a fixed percentage of the game’s revenue.

Soccer00s

• Thu Soccer00s – Iraq v Australia – 3,270 at PAS Stadium (Tehran)

Rugby

• NEW Zealand Rugby boss Steve Tew on Thursday acknowledged frustration at delays in announcing Super Rugby’s revamped format but said implementing tough decisions took time.
• There could be huge repercussions from the Victorian government if the Australian Rugby Union decides to axe the Melbourne Rebels from Super Rugby. The state government has plans to build a rugby centre of excellence planned into its next budget but the feeling is that Victorians would find it very difficult to accept taxpayers’ money going to a sporting body that had walked away. And while negotiations for Bledisloe Cup games and other Test matches are well advanced, they are not set in stone. Nor are they short-term plans. It is believed the Victorian government is negotiating a deal spread over a decade.
• The Shute Shield will return to free-to-air television in time for season kick-off next week after the Sydney Rugby Union confirmed it had secured most of the funding required to finance a weekly live broadcast on 7Two. The SRU is in the third year of a five-year deal with Club Rugby TV, which requires it to spend $250,000 on advertising with Channel Seven in exchange for the live broadcast of one game per round on 7Two. Last year the Australian Rugby Union came up with the money at the last minute, but in his first few months as SRU president Begg was left with little time to secure support and sponsorship after the ARU and NSW Rugby Union signalled they were not prepared to fund the deal.

General

• Video is available of the Perth Stadium testing its new lights.
• ADELAIDE 36ers chairman and majority shareholder Grant Kelley has embraced moves to upgrade and redevelop Memorial Drive’s sporting precinct and would love his NBL team to play in a revamped venue

 

[Our Game]

NRL

• Thu NRL – Souths v Sydney at ANZ Stadium – no official crowd figures given.

All the Sydney NRL blowhards must be really embarrassed if they cant even post a crowd figure on the NRL website!
What I find interesting is the Sydney media absolutely flog RL to death esp the DT and still their crowds are woeful. Flogging a dead horse ?

 

[The_Wookie]

NRL

• Thu NRL – Souths v Sydney at ANZ Stadium – no official crowd figures given.

All the Sydney NRL blowhards must be really embarrassed if they cant even post a figure on the NRL website!

didnt do it last week either.

 

[precarious]

Don't think this is an official figure, but SBS, the Australian and a few others are now reporting the crowd as 10,479.

Maybe the figure was queried by the NRL? Not sure.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/03/24/keary-beats-souths-and-their-mental-demons

Makes me glad the AFL showed restraint with Thursday night football. I like it as an event seven or so times a season, but having it nearly every round looks like it will wear thin with fans.

 

[NoobPie]

I would have thought they are slightly disappointing ratings for the AFL. Last year got 817k, though it was a closer match which I suspect effects the ratings in football perhaps more than other codes...

 

[NoobPie]

Don't think this is an official figure, but SBS, the Australian and a few others are now reporting the crowd as 10,479.

Maybe the figure was queried by the NRL? Not sure.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/03/24/keary-beats-souths-and-their-mental-demons

Makes me glad the AFL showed restraint with Thursday night football. I like it as an event seven or so times a season, but having it nearly every round looks like it will wear thin with fans.

You have to wonder if the NRL has put way too much weight on maximising its TV dollars in the shorter term to its long term detriment. The 6 oclock Friday game, particularly for Sydney games, seems almost like self-sabotage. Presumably Foxtel paid some premium for that game, but will it really be worth it in the long term?

 

[precarious]

You have to wonder if the NRL has put too way to much weight on maximising its TV dollars in the shorter term to its long term detriment. The 6 oclock Friday game, particularly for Sydney games, seems almost like self-sabotage. Presumably Foxtel paid some premium for that game, but will it really be worth it in the long term?

Agree. It seems wise of the AFL to place a priority on attendance. Low crowds feed on themselves, and may eventually have ramifications for ratings and the game more generally.

Maybe the NRL execs are thinking (i) they can get a bounce with crowds once the stadium refurbishments are done and build some momentum from there, and (ii) they will have greater control of the fixture (though not time slots) from next year onward, which would enable them to place their bigger match-ups in more popular time slots (at the cost of some ratings).

Seems a risk even allowing for stadium refurbishment. Then there's NSW governments' poor track record on following through with infrastructure promises.

 

[The_Wookie]

LIVE: AFL CARLTON V RICHMOND FOX FOOTY 269,000
LIVE: NRL RABBITOHS V ROOSTERS FOX LEAGUE 241,000
LIVE: FOOTBALL: WCQ: SOCCEROOS V IRAQ FOX SPORTS 50 84,000

 

[Parish2McGrath]

AFL have nailed the Thursday fixtures. 76k last year with a public holiday. 73k on a school night is even more impressive.

 

[kaypee]

You have to wonder if the NRL has put way too much weight on maximising its TV dollars in the shorter term to its long term detriment. The 6 oclock Friday game, particularly for Sydney games, seems almost like self-sabotage. Presumably Foxtel paid some premium for that game, but will it really be worth it in the long term?

it wanted the teevee dollars to match the afl's so it was squeezing every orange it could. AFL plans 30 years down the track, NRL doesnt. I reckon the early friday nrl game will create a reason for foxtel to flog its product to pubs - and good on them - but it just seems so detrimental to the overall health of their game.

 

[Easton Thighs]

Well you would think the majority of people who go to games would watch it on tv as well but many people who watch it on tv don't necessarily translate to attendance. I guess you do get the mass exposure but not the commitment. NRL have got it backwards I reckon. Then again their game is based on going backwards to go forward.

 

[Demonoid]

LIVE: AFL CARLTON V RICHMOND FOX FOOTY 269,000
LIVE: NRL RABBITOHS V ROOSTERS FOX LEAGUE 241,000
LIVE: FOOTBALL: WCQ: SOCCEROOS V IRAQ FOX SPORTS 50 84,000

So higher FTA and higher STV audience to the AFL. Not bad for 2 teams expected to finish out of the finals this year.


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[bombersfan4000]

You have to wonder if the NRL has put way too much weight on maximising its TV dollars in the shorter term to its long term detriment. The 6 oclock Friday game, particularly for Sydney games, seems almost like self-sabotage. Presumably Foxtel paid some premium for that game, but will it really be worth it in the long term?

The NRL sold everything it could to get a $ figure near the AFL.
Their overall crowds may be affected a few k but not much more. Their crowds have always been pretty pathetic compared to the AFL dating back to the 60s

 

[Our Game]

didnt do it last week either.

10,700 supposedly at ANZ The 6pm NRL game tonight at Penrith will be poor crowd as its raining as usual in Sydney The Broncos match will be half decent.

 

[precarious]

it wanted the teevee dollars to match the afl's so it was squeezing every orange it could. AFL plans 30 years down the track, NRL doesnt. I reckon the early friday nrl game will create a reason for foxtel to flog its product to pubs - and good on them - but it just seems so detrimental to the overall health of their game.

The NRL's strategy seems reactive and mainly focused on spoiling, with an eye to ratings especially in Sydney, even to the detriment of their own attendances.

Looking at the draw this round, for instance:

• Wests v Melbourne play the same time as Adelaide v GWS, presumably in the hope Melbourne viewers will watch the storm (with no Melbourne team in the AFL game) and western Sydney viewers will not be tempted to check out the GWS game.
• Manly v Canterbury (two Sydney teams) are playing at the same time as Sydney v Port.
• In QLD, Gold Coast v North Queensland is up against Gold Coast v Brisbane.
• To a lesser extent, Souths v Easts (two Sydney teams) Thursday night was probably mostly about retaining Sydney viewers for the night.

As already noted, they do this despite the impact on their own attendances. Going to one of the swans games at the SCG last season, Easts were playing Manly (from memory) next door at the SFS, with both games at the same time. Outside the stadiums the NRL fans were so outnumbered you felt a bit sorry for them (after all, they are the fans who are actually committed enough to turn up to games). At the same time, though, it was obvious that the move was more about retaining TV viewers in Sydney.

No doubt the strategy has a degree of effectiveness in the short term, particularly in terms of Sydney TV ratings, but it doesn't really help the NRL move on to the front foot in growing its own league.

 

[The_Wookie]

• Fri NRL Crowds: Penrith v Newcastle - 10,567 at Pepper Stadium
• Fri NRL Crowds: Brisbane v Canberra - 29,370 at Suncorp Stadium
• Fri AFL Crowd - Collingwood v Western Bulldogs - 66,254 at the MCG
• Fri HAL Crowd - Western Sydney v Melbourne City - 10,204 at Spotless Stadium
• Fri Rugby Crowd - Rebels v Waratahs - No crowd given for Aami Park