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[Old_Man_James]

At least we have the cashola for 6 years locked in!

Indeed

Its just wether a replacement source of revenue will be ready in 6 years time. Things are changing pretty rapidly at the moment its hard to say what the media landscape will look like in 6 years time.

 

[caMoGFC]

Foxfooty should go to number 1 STV channel from this week. People watching replays and other programs on foxleague from Mon-Thurs may have got them over the line, where as this week Foxfooty will have all the previous weeks replays too for a like for like comparison.

Concerning if foxtel numbers drop off too much seeing as foxtel was mainly responsible for the massive increase in the last broadcast rights deal.

I wouldn't be so sure of that.
FoxLeague won't have a single second of matches overlapping with 8 full live games being played on the channel every week of the season.

On the flip-side FoxFooty generally only has 6? (may be 7) matches played on it with Fox Sports 3 getting the others which are played at the same time as other FoxFooty matches cannibalizing the audience share.

If FoxFooty were to ever finish top STV this year i'd be surprised though others on here know far more on this sort of thing than i do so are probably better to comment.

 

[Gigantor]

I wouldn't be so sure of that.
FoxLeague won't have a single second of matches overlapping with 8 full live games being played on the channel every week of the season.

On the flip-side FoxFooty generally only has 6? (may be 7) matches played on it with Fox Sports 3 getting the others which are played at the same time as other FoxFooty matches cannibalizing the audience share.

If FoxFooty were to ever finish top STV this year i'd be surprised though others on here know far more on this sort of thing than i do so are probably better to comment.

All good points, so hard to say at the moment.

We do know:
- Fox footy used to kill the overall ratings, daylight 2nd, even if individual matches weren't outrating league matches
- we do see that occasionally footy replays rate quite well
- our talk shows rate consistently high, often pushing 100k, which is excellent for any mid-week show.

 

[The_Wookie]

Some of the new league non match programming is rating ok too.

 

[Gigantor]

Francis Leach‏Verified account @SaintFrankly 1m1 minute ago
Nice work @antsharwood - maybe @nrl need to employ Lara Bingle to reprise "Where the bloody hell are ya?" Campaign.

Massive AFL Crowd Numbers Embarrass The Struggling NRL

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...ng-nrl_a_22012832/?ncid=fcbklnkauhpmg00000001

 

[Garlic muncher]

Francis Leach‏Verified account @SaintFrankly 1m1 minute ago
Nice work @antsharwood - maybe @nrl need to employ Lara Bingle to reprise "Where the bloody hell are ya?" Campaign.

Massive AFL Crowd Numbers Embarrass The Struggling NRL

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...ng-nrl_a_22012832/?ncid=fcbklnkauhpmg00000001

Surely after all these years of being embarrassed, they shouldn't be embarrassed anymore, nothing is going to change with Sydney RL crowds, they are what they are.

Sydney is more than big enough for 4 A league teams and another AFL team at some stage and my bet is all those teams would give the Sydney NRL average a run for their money or beat it.

 

[NoobPie]

Surely after all these years of being embarrassed, they shouldn't be embarrassed anymore, nothing is going to change with Sydney RL crowds, they are what they are.

Sydney is more than big enough for 4 A league teams and another AFL team at some stage and my bet is all those teams would give the Sydney NRL average a run for their money or beat it.

Welcome back garlic muncher! Watching the Socceroos tonight, they are almost pulling a swans like crowd

 

[bombersfan4000]

Surely after all these years of being embarrassed, they shouldn't be embarrassed anymore, nothing is going to change with Sydney RL crowds, they are what they are.

Sydney is more than big enough for 4 A league teams and another AFL team at some stage and my bet is all those teams would give the Sydney NRL average a run for their money or beat it.

The Nrl crowds have always been pretty crap compared to the AFLs dating back to the 60s since the counting of the crowds first began

 

[Our Game]

Welcome back garlic muncher! Watching the Socceroos tonight, they are almost pulling a swans like crowd

But still no FTA stations willing to put it on their main channel and this is supposedly our biggest national team.
Be interesting what it got on 9s second channel?

 

[Garlic muncher]

Cant seem to find the whole video, but Matthew Johnson was the bloke who killed Carl Williams was on trial years ago for bashing another prisoner with the other blokes, the started singing Good old Collingwood at some point which the video doesn't show.

Truly weird, no one seems to stop them they go on for ages, i don't believe Eddie on this occasion sanctioned it.

 

[NoobPie]

The Nrl crowds have always been pretty crap compared to the AFLs dating back to the 60s since the counting of the crowds first began

Taking the piss with the inclusion of 2017

 

[AstroboyUK]

Surely after all these years of being embarrassed, they shouldn't be embarrassed anymore, nothing is going to change with Sydney RL crowds, they are what they are.

Sydney is more than big enough for 4 A league teams and another AFL team at some stage and my bet is all those teams would give the Sydney NRL average a run for their money or beat it.

the camera angles on NRL broadcasts are kinda like the balding guy facing the mirror trying every creative way to do comb over to hide the bald spots....and make it look like he has more hair than he does (viewed from certain angles in forgiving light)
It must be tedious for the production having to worry about it every match and not being able to film from any angle you want.

 

[NoobPie]

the camera angles on NRL broadcasts are kinda like the balding guy facing the mirror trying every creative way to do comb over to hide the bald spots....and make it look like he has more hair than he does (viewed from certain angles in forgiving light)
It must be tedious for the production having to worry about it every match and not being able to film from any angle you want.

Actually I noticed that in the soccer a bit tonight....they'd show a throw in with the empty upper stand and then quickly cut to a lower camera angle

 

[bombersfan4000]

Taking the piss with the inclusion of 2017

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Didn't need to as chart is pretty much taking the piss when comparing the two.

 

[Professor Knowall]

Taking the piss with the inclusion of 2017

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Lol. Another measurement is overall attendance numbers - including finals. I wouldn't mind seeing the same sort of graph for this - but better exclude 2017 for now.

 

[NoobPie]

Lol. Another measurement is overall attendance numbers - including finals. I wouldn't mind seeing the same sort of graph for this - but better exclude 2017 for now.

 

[WagonBang]

Actually I noticed that in the soccer a bit tonight....they'd show a throw in with the empty upper stand and then quickly cut to a lower camera angle

These are the games I think should be taken to Newcastle, Gosford, Gold Coast or AAMI Park. 27k is a good crowd against the UAE on a Tuesday but 27k at SFS still looks awful when the top deck is closed. Where 27k at all other venues (bar Gosford - 20k) is a full house and great spectical on TV.

 

[Gigantor]

Taking the piss with the inclusion of 2017

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The NRL got within about 10,000 in 1988.

 

[Gigantor]

Actually that 2nd graph does support the theory that the gap is widened considerably since the Super league wars.

 

[Our Game]

These are the games I think should be taken to Newcastle, Gosford, Gold Coast or AAMI Park. 27k is a good crowd against the UAE on a Tuesday but 27k at SFS still looks awful when the top deck is closed. Where 27k at all other venues (bar Gosford - 20k) is a full house and great spectical on TV.

Yes but it is supposed to be our most popular national team and in that case should even fill ANZ on a weeknight.

 

[Professor Knowall]

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Thanks NoobPie - and very prompt It also shows the gap was always there - but widened considerably from the mid 90's to the early naughties and has been maintained since then.

If finals were also included, the gap would be wider still all the way through (e.g in 1970 EVERY VFL final attracted over 100,000).

 

[The_Wookie]

Soccer

• WCQ: Socceroos d United Arab Emirates: Crowd: 27,328 @ Allianz Stadium
• Tues WCQ FTA - Aus v UAE - 256,000 (Syd 80,000 melb 95,000 Bris 43,000 Adel 23,000 Per 15,000) - on 9Go!
• Tues WCQ STV - Aus v AUE 178,000 FS50

AFL

• Thunder, Dockers divorce rumours persist
  
• Adelaide face the first of their delayed FTA tv matches this weekend
  
• FRANKSTON has until June 30 to convince AFL Victoria it should be readmitted to the VFL in 2018.

A-league

• Roy Masters writes that Rugby league and rugby union show why expansion could damage the A-League
  
• The West Australian asks Why are junior soccer fees so much more than Auskick?
  
• Melbourne Victory have agreed a five-year strategic partnership with Victoria University (VU), Australia's leading sports university. VU will provide the Australian soccer side with sports science and performance support for its Academy programs. The collaboration will create opportunities for VU undergraduates studying Master of Sports Science and Master of Sport Business and Integrity to participate in internships and to work placements.

NRL

• Dozens of the game's leading players emerged on Monday night declaring it was "essential" that the NRL agree to give them a fixed share of the code's revenue in pay talks, saying they hoped their objectives could be achieved civilly. [Also in The Australian]
  
• Massive AFL Crowd Numbers Embarrass The Struggling NRL

Super Rugby

• The Daily Telegraph understands that the Force will be the Australian team scrapped should the Super Rugby competition be cut to 15 teams, the model SANZAAR prefers for 2018-19.
• ARU boss Bill Pulver says no decision has been made on Super Rugby changes
  
• Western Force chairman Tony Howarth says the club's efforts to succeed have been undermined by Australian rugby powers.
• The Australian Rugby Union has denied it has sacked the Western Force, the Force insist they are very much a going concern, but it may well be that their survival depends on how airtight is a legal clause signed when the national body took control of the club.
• The WA State Government has left open the possibility of withholding millions of dollars in road trauma funding from the Western Force after claims the team will be axed from the Super Rugby competition.
• THE Rugby Union Players Association has signalled it would oppose the ARU telling Western Force players which franchise to join next year in the event an Aussie team is axed.

General

• The latest Australian Multi-Screen Report has found that Australians are spreading their viewing across multiple screens, with television still the most watched.
  
• Just two days after confirming its 20 year partnership with CUB’s VB had come to an end, Cricket Australia has announced Lion’s mid-strength XXXX brand has signed a four year sponsorship of the sport.

 

[NoobPie]

 

[papabear]

Actually I noticed that in the soccer a bit tonight....they'd show a throw in with the empty upper stand and then quickly cut to a lower camera angle

You are kidding right.

Generally the Rugby League and soccer, the main camera goes down one side. So you see the crowd on the other side.

Take leichhardt tigers v the storm

The camera runs down the along the members stand end, back in the day this would have been showing just the hill and benches GA areas that were full (so is the members stand as well).

Nowadays, they have placed some old seats from the SCG i think on were the benches were closest to the grounds and charged an extra 5 bucks or so for the seats. These are by far and away the most empty part of the ground and are by far and away the most shown part of the ground when most other area of leichhardt looks full.

Soccer is the same, the same it runs the camera long one side mostly, and depending on the time whether you want to be in the sun or the rain you will get what crowd you get. I am sure some on here could comment more about aami park but since morons in victoria are used to sitting behind goalposts, the crowds probably look worse then they are because they arent going to swing behind the goal posts unless points are scored.

Now lets look at the AFL and how they work the cameras in Giants and Swans games.

Honestly, sometimes I think people on here support AFL like its some sort of righteous religion from GOD above all the other lowly ball games, when you look at the track record of which organisation does better at building relationships within the media / justice system / government to get better outcomes for the game (some might call it a word starting with c and ending in n) it isn't rugby league or soccer....Its the game staring you in the face.

But anyways you come for a breed that boo blokes you cut from your side when they manage to get a gig elsewhere so what would should I expect.

 

[Our Game]

From our great Australian Football supporter

"Honestly, sometimes I think people on here support AFL like its some sort of righteous religion from GOD above all the other lowly ball games"
It is a god given religion mate and thats why its #1 by a country mile.