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- May 6, 2007
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This aged wellMarshal has been very durable for a young ruck and Ryder had a great year last season they will both be back over the next 3-4 weeks plenty of time for the finals . I wish they were playing this week though would have been great to see them towl up your second rate ruck department I guess I will have to settle for watching your undersized soft midfield get taken to the cleaners again
Someone said Cox is probably the best player from the draft, and I disputed that. What's the problem?That's probably why they went earlier in the draft.
Catch up turbo.
So?McDonald had 2 kicks tonight and Ugle-Hagan hasn't played yet.
Doubt it, used the first pick to take Cox which was what the dogs were asking for along with a future first.The thread titke is still correctct. Dodo could've had Cox and Dunkley. Along with Phillips, McDonald or DGB.
With a better list manager the Dons would be 3-1. Oh.
And wouldn't have been able to use.Doubt it, used the first pick to take Cox which was what the dogs were asking for
Except that was just an initial demand. There is every chance the dogs would've accepted a future first + a future second, but Dodoro shut the door and refused to negotiate any deal involving Essendon's future first, hence the subject matter of this thread.along with a future first.
The option to live trade would have been the go. Bargin deal and then trade on draft night once the bid has been done. Gotta be creative.And wouldn't have been able to use.
Except that was just an initial demand. There is every chance the dogs would've accepted a future first + a future second, but Dodoro shut the door and refused to negotiate any deal involving Essendon's future first, hence the subject matter of this thread.
If you're valuing an unnamed 17 year old over a proven gun like Josh Dunkley, chances are you're not a very good list manager.
Congratulations on having the exact same list management outlook as Melbourne did from 2007-2009. What a successful era that turned out to be.Dunkley is fine. He's a good player but would have been another Shiel for us. No player outside the top 15 in the comp is worth more than a single first rounder. Valuing the right unnamed 17 year is old is premium.
I'm pretty sure Shaun Burgoyne wasn't a top 15 player in the competition in 2009, and he was injury prone too. Didn't stop Hawthorn from coughing up not one, but two first rounders.Which is because of draft errors not strategy, they could have walked away with Dangerfield, Nic Nat and Martin.
Picks in the same draft are not the same as the current future pick scenario I was referring to. With a single draft you know the draft pool, future trading becomes a game of luck instead of craft. Cox plus Horne/Sinn/Johnson/Sonsie is far too much to gamble with on any player less than young and elite. No way close to current day setup.I'm pretty sure Shaun Burgoyne wasn't a top 15 player in the competition in 2009, and he was injury prone too. Didn't stop Hawthorn from coughing up not one, but two first rounders.
What a deal for Port, hey? While Hawthorn got one solitary player, Port drafted two superstars in Andrew Moore and Jasper McMillan-Pittard. How stupid were the Hawks in that trade?!
Then you have Brad Ottens in 2004. Nowhere near a top 15 player, nor did he become one, but still cost Geelong two first rounders. Do they regret it? While teams like Melbourne and Essendon rotted away at the bottom, hording their precious draft picks, Geelong were too busy winning 3 flags with Ottens playing a pivotal role.
How about a more recent example: Dion Prestia. I remember everyone was mocking Richmond for giving up pick 6 for him, no doubt people like yourself were the first to laugh at them. Nothing more needs to be said.
Is your loyalty to Dodoro so strong you have to keep perpetuating this fallacy?Cox plus
If you think any one of these players is more valuable than Josh Dunkley, you are delusional.Horne/Sinn/Johnson/Sonsie is far too much to gamble
What fallacy? There has never been any suggestion except for yours that they were going to accept only a future first + second.Is your loyalty to Dodoro so strong you have to keep perpetuating this fallacy?
If you think any one of these players is more valuable than Josh Dunkley, you are delusional.
Whichever club crafts them would be thrilled if they ended up as good as Dunkley.
Proven guns >>>>>>> unproven 17 year olds.
The only thing known for sure was that Dodoro refused to put Essendon's future first on the table. There is no evidence suggesting the Doggies were refusing to compromise for anything less than two first rounders.What fallacy? There has never been any suggestion except for yours that they were going to accept only a future first + second.
This is such a stupid post. I'm not even going to bother anymore, you're finished.23 year old Nathan Jones>>>>>> 17 year old Dustin Martin. Brilliant, no way should Melbourne have done that trade.
Proven gun? Dunkley has played half a season of A-grade football. He's a good player who may turn into a great one but the Dogs were asking for too much (as they had the right to do) and I'm not regretting our decision to prioritise youth instead. He may well ask for a trade again anyway.Proven guns >>>>>>> unproven 17 year olds.