List Mgmt. Adrian Dodoro

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Dynos

Draftee
Apr 21, 2010
7
2
AFL Club
Essendon
20 years of the same strategy and we are yet to win a final. It's time to move on Dodoro.
This idiot Didoro will not select midfielders and it is why we are not capable of being a top 4 side Adrian just go the sooner the better you have presided over a period of mediocrity in recruiting at essendon for over 10 years just go.
 

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TDay

All Australian
May 27, 2017
755
1,117
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Essendon
JFC what do yall want him to do, trade a future first for Robertson? Or give back Shiel and ask for our pick back? Our top pick in this draft already went to a top tier mid.

The best inside mid options actually available to us were all speculative and TWO OF THEM ARE STILL AVAILABLE!
Dodo got a 5 pick upgrade effectively for free, even increasing out draft point bidding flexibility next year by splitting up 1 pick into 3.
We had no right to get the young forward we needed with the picks we had. Let alone a hugh potential ruck project.
Dodo couldve picked Chirgwin at 50 and it would've stopped alot of the whinging here, but luckily dodo doesn't read bigfooty and now we have the option to rookie him, on a lower risk 1 year contract. Or take Hibberd for a more immediate impact. Two solid options, still on the board.
What is left on the board for the (also necessary) positions that we drafted for?
 

Mikevk123

All Australian
Jun 25, 2019
830
489
AFL Club
Essendon
JFC what do yall want him to do, trade a future first for Robertson? Or give back Shiel and ask for our pick back? Our top pick in this draft already went to a top tier mid.

The best inside mid options actually available to us were all speculative and TWO OF THEM ARE STILL AVAILABLE!
Dodo got a 5 pick upgrade effectively for free, even increasing out draft point bidding flexibility next year by splitting up 1 pick into 3.
We had no right to get the young forward we needed with the picks we had. Let alone a hugh potential ruck project.
Dodo couldve picked Chirgwin at 50 and it would've stopped alot of the whinging here, but luckily dodo doesn't read bigfooty and now we have the option to rookie him, on a lower risk 1 year contract. Or take Hibberd for a more immediate impact. Two solid options, still on the board.
What is left on the board for the (also necessary) positions that we drafted for?
The problem is our lack of midfield depth. How come everyone can see it except dodo?
 

Mercurial89

Brownlow Medallist
Apr 20, 2011
10,524
13,471
Melbourne
AFL Club
Essendon
The problem is our lack of midfield depth. How come everyone can see it except dodo?
That's our problem is it?
So one inside mid in this draft is going to somehow propel the club up the ladder?

When exactly? Next year? Ok so who is this amazing inside mid that we are picking outside the top 20 that is going to walk into our starting midfield displacing who we already have and has years in the system?

Ok so maybe not immediate impact? Kind of points against immediate need but Let's still grab that inside mid. But wait Joe Daniher has walked out, and Raz, and Draper hasn't recovered fully from his knee, or it goes again.
So we are relying on an over 30 Bellchambers, Sean McKernan and Moz ( you know the kid who may not even play a game) as their replacements going forward. But at least we will have that absolute gun inside mid as that was all we needed.

Oh we will fix those holes next year? They might stay?
The stick that has been used to beat this club is the lack of forward planning. Here they are trying to safeguard the list and keep it reasonably balanced and this absolute nutcase of a board whinge about it. Why? Because you read a paragraph description of a player on here or the AFL app saying such and such was an inside mid?
The club tried to get the pick needed for Robertson, they couldn't get it done.

We have mids they are not the best but they are adequate. We also have one of the best mids in the league in Shiel and Merret. Not bad quality there. Yes we need an inside mid beast to help us this coming year, short of trading in Patrick Cripps how were we going to get one here?

I said when the Daniher news came out this would fu** us up going forward. This is what I meant, we have to now focus on other needs that are more important to keep this club functional. We need rucks and KPFs in the door and we have done that.
Not to mention there are still midfielders available, in the rookie draft that people were crying to take at 50.

These guys have been working at this all year and have far more information than on here.
 

Yoda_

Brownlow Medallist
May 6, 2007
26,404
12,574
South East Suburbs
AFL Club
Essendon
Other Teams
Tottenham Hotspurs, Melbourne Vixen
That's our problem is it?
So one inside mid in this draft is going to somehow propel the club up the ladder?

When exactly? Next year? Ok so who is this amazing inside mid that we are picking outside the top 20 that is going to walk into our starting midfield displacing who we already have and has years in the system?
My problem with Dodoro has been his lack of forward planning. We didn't plan between TBC and then Sam Draper for a ruckmen, instead topping up, moneyball style in hope that Drapes comes on quicker (which luckily he did, but unluckily has done his ACL). As the KPF's take much longer, we hardly selected a KPF to develop long term, now with so much conjecture over Joe we are trying to scamble for a decent one.


For the record, even though an inside midfielder won't be a dominant selection in the midst of the 50's and 60's, we are going to rely on our flankers to do the heavy lifting at VFL level. Mynott, Jok, Myers, Long were all mids at VFL level. We are once againg going to be transforming (non midfield) players into true mids. Something that has worked out incredibly well for the last decade.
 

Fin ice Smuggler

Premiership Player
Nov 13, 2010
3,131
1,166
AFL Club
Essendon
That's our problem is it?
So one inside mid in this draft is going to somehow propel the club up the ladder?

When exactly? Next year? Ok so who is this amazing inside mid that we are picking outside the top 20 that is going to walk into our starting midfield displacing who we already have and has years in the system?

Ok so maybe not immediate impact? Kind of points against immediate need but Let's still grab that inside mid. But wait Joe Daniher has walked out, and Raz, and Draper hasn't recovered fully from his knee, or it goes again.
So we are relying on an over 30 Bellchambers, Sean McKernan and Moz ( you know the kid who may not even play a game) as their replacements going forward. But at least we will have that absolute gun inside mid as that was all we needed.

Oh we will fix those holes next year? They might stay?
The stick that has been used to beat this club is the lack of forward planning. Here they are trying to safeguard the list and keep it reasonably balanced and this absolute nutcase of a board whinge about it. Why? Because you read a paragraph description of a player on here or the AFL app saying such and such was an inside mid?
The club tried to get the pick needed for Robertson, they couldn't get it done.

We have mids they are not the best but they are adequate. We also have one of the best mids in the league in Shiel and Merret. Not bad quality there. Yes we need an inside mid beast to help us this coming year, short of trading in Patrick Cripps how were we going to get one here?

I said when the Daniher news came out this would fu** us up going forward. This is what I meant, we have to now focus on other needs that are more important to keep this club functional. We need rucks and KPFs in the door and we have done that.
Not to mention there are still midfielders available, in the rookie draft that people were crying to take at 50.

These guys have been working at this all year and have far more information than on here.
No. 1 inside mid wont solve any issues but this same conversation has been regurgitating itself since 2002 finals loss to Port when Hird said we need to get a better midfield. We have never ever solved the issue and keep plugging gaps.

I dont mind what we took in jones and Ryan as they are needs but 2x 2nd round picks for Jones is costly.

The problem is if joe does leave and hooker retires what gaps are we looking at flling again next year?

Honestly i dont think our first team would beat Richmonds VFL premiership side.

I just dont see us getting our hands on the ball at the stoppages enough to allow Shiel, Mcgrath and Merrett to do their best work.
 

BrunoV

Brownlow Medallist
May 5, 2009
16,062
19,730
AFL Club
Essendon
My problem with Dodoro has been his lack of forward planning. We didn't plan between TBC and then Sam Draper for a ruckmen, instead topping up, moneyball style in hope that Drapes comes on quicker (which luckily he did, but unluckily has done his ACL). As the KPF's take much longer, we hardly selected a KPF to develop long term, now with so much conjecture over Joe we are trying to scamble for a decent one.


For the record, even though an inside midfielder won't be a dominant selection in the midst of the 50's and 60's, we are going to rely on our flankers to do the heavy lifting at VFL level. Mynott, Jok, Myers, Long were all mids at VFL level. We are once againg going to be transforming (non midfield) players into true mids. Something that has worked out incredibly well for the last decade.

You'd think that loading up with picks next year is for Brand and Eyre (spelling?).

Both key position players in our NGA.

So I doubt we'll be taking a handful of mids next year either.

I've got to say I'm loving the look of our KPP stocks.

Pity that the game has been a midfielders' game for 20 years.

I like the look of Bryan in isolation but then does he even fit into a team with Draper? There is no real suggestion he is a forward.

Draper just signed a 4 year deal and is 3 years older. I don't see how he and Bryan are not intertwined.
 

eth-dog

Premium Gold
Jan 11, 2007
77,688
36,452
Melbourne
AFL Club
Essendon
Other Teams
Coburg Lions, All Boston sides
No. 1 inside mid wont solve any issues but this same conversation has been regurgitating itself since 2002 finals loss to Port when Hird said we need to get a better midfield. We have never ever solved the issue and keep plugging gaps.

I dont mind what we took in jones and Ryan as they are needs but 2x 2nd round picks for Jones is costly.

The problem is if joe does leave and hooker retires what gaps are we looking at flling again next year?

Honestly i dont think our first team would beat Richmonds VFL premiership side.

I just dont see us getting our hands on the ball at the stoppages enough to allow Shiel, Mcgrath and Merrett to do their best work.
Our VFL team lost to them by how much?
 

Mercurial89

Brownlow Medallist
Apr 20, 2011
10,524
13,471
Melbourne
AFL Club
Essendon
My problem with Dodoro has been his lack of forward planning. We didn't plan between TBC and then Sam Draper for a ruckmen, instead topping up, moneyball style in hope that Drapes comes on quicker (which luckily he did, but unluckily has done his ACL). As the KPF's take much longer, we hardly selected a KPF to develop long term, now with so much conjecture over Joe we are trying to scamble for a decent one.


For the record, even though an inside midfielder won't be a dominant selection in the midst of the 50's and 60's, we are going to rely on our flankers to do the heavy lifting at VFL level. Mynott, Jok, Myers, Long were all mids at VFL level. We are once againg going to be transforming (non midfield) players into true mids. Something that has worked out incredibly well for the last decade.
Up until this past year our tall stocks were fine. We had a generational talent in Daniher you can't blame the club for focusing on other gaps instead of trying to grab one.

He leaving has meant we now have to adapt.

I don't blame the list management team for adapting to shit circumstances. If we had of gone to this draft and tried to fill this need of midfielders fans want I would love to have seen the absolute meltdown when Joe and Stewart can't get back on the park or leave and Draper and Bellchambers fall apart as a ruck team.
 

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