eth-dog
Tier 1 WW Player
What's the current dutch line-up like? Are the Cooper's in, and van der Gugten? Would RtD potentially come back to play if they were granted test status?
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What's the current dutch line-up like? Are the Cooper's in, and van der Gugten? Would RtD potentially come back to play if they were granted test status?
I see your point. If RtD came out of retirement they'd be decent batting wise with Cooper, the Myburgh's, RtD and van der Merwe but their attack would be pop gun at best.I'd be completely against the Dutch getting test status or making this ODI league to be honest.
I'm glad for Afghanistan and Ireland because they're drawing most their players domestically (as in actual Afghans and Irishmen - most the Irish team is now Irish born) and have worked on making their own domestic competition.
The Dutch side is all South Africans and Australians with Dutch grandmothers. UAE is Pakistani and Indian expats.
Expats are fine and all but for a team to have any chance of making the next level players have to be drawn from domestic competitions.
They'd also have to play the players more for Test matches which seems like a tightass reason they'd use to not do it.
Maybe. Although if they were thinking like that, they might go Hong Kong because "China".Nepal might be a chance because of potential market.
I hope the "big" test countries can set aside room in their calendars to stop feathering their own nests and do something to grow world cricket.
They will likely finish out the Intercontinental Cup because teams can still be relegated from that so it wouldn't be fair for two teams to just leave. I have a feeling the ICC might make a another WCL from now til 2019 to get the team for the ODI league.Maybe. Although if they were thinking like that, they might go Hong Kong because "China".
Hopefully its is on merit; whether by rankings, WPL, or maybe a playoff series between the two when not the same.
As for Nepal, by all means help them out, they have a strong following, which is translating into a T20 league; whether that can be brought across into longer formats is in question. As with all associates, getting more games (full day and multiday) is all-important but costly.
edit: How long will Afghanistan and Ireland keep playing the Intercontinental Cup. It might not be a bad idea for them (and Zimbabwe) to play if they can't get regular Tests. It gioves the next tier a chance to test themsleves, and nations in desparate need of multiday cricket getting at least one game every few months.
The Afghans dont have much to offer the test scene because its impossible for them to host home games..
No team is ever going to tour Afghanistan. Im told they play in Dubai just like Pakistan.
I think UAE should get a bit of a pass, in 2013 the population of the country was 9.2 million with 7.8 million expats. But yeah, most of the top-tier associate teams are made up of drop-out domestic cricketers from test nations.I'd be completely against the Dutch getting test status or making this ODI league to be honest.
I'm glad for Afghanistan and Ireland because they're drawing most their players domestically (as in actual Afghans and Irishmen - most the Irish team is now Irish born) and have worked on making their own domestic competition.
The Dutch side is all South Africans and Australians with Dutch grandmothers. UAE is Pakistani and Indian expats.
Expats are fine and all but for a team to have any chance of making the next level players have to be drawn from domestic competitions.
Yeah lots of young players coming through. Both Scotland and Netherlands have drafted Zimbabwe in the last month so it's good to see the divide between top associates and bottom full members going away. Netherlands have lots of home grown talent as well. Hopefully the likes of Peter Borren who's been around for ever for them get's more opportunity.The Scots do alright in terms of producing quality local players. Healthy number around the mark of county first XI's including a very good crop of tall pacemen.
More teams can be good for Test cricket, if they get regular games so they can improve. Splitting into divisons, whether officially or by simply ignoring the "lesser" nations, will kill the very idea of Test cricket being the pinnacle though.I can't see how more teams gaining test status is good for test cricket. It'll create a bigger imbalance.
Nope. I disagree. In amongst all the other Cricket played. The other nations won't have a fair crack at it. You'll continue to have a 5 test Ashes series. But then a 2 test, maybe even 1, series against Afghanistan and Ireland.
Yeah lots of young players coming through. Both Scotland and Netherlands have drafted Zimbabwe in the last month so it's good to see the divide between top associates and bottom full members going away. Netherlands have lots of home grown talent as well. Hopefully the likes of Peter Borren who's been around for ever for them get's more opportunity.
Yeah maybe, but they still won or drew the series, the more teams that are competitive the better.Unfortunately I think there is an element of Zimbabwe falling away even further.
I can't see how more teams gaining test status is good for test cricket. It'll create a bigger imbalance.
Where would Afghanistan play its home tests. Cant see anyone wanting to tour there to be honest.I'd be completely against the Dutch getting test status or making this ODI league to be honest.
I'm glad for Afghanistan and Ireland because they're drawing most their players domestically (as in actual Afghans and Irishmen - most the Irish team is now Irish born) and have worked on making their own domestic competition.
The Dutch side is all South Africans and Australians with Dutch grandmothers. UAE is Pakistani and Indian expats.
Expats are fine and all but for a team to have any chance of making the next level players have to be drawn from domestic competitions.