Afghanistan Tour Cancelled

[kickazz]

They were banned from representing their country overseas.

Would you support the Afghanistan players being banned from international competition as well?

Probably not, but I do support them losing Full Member status of the ICC for clearly not complying with ICC rules.

 

[Rob]

They were banned from representing their country overseas.

Would you support the Afghanistan players being banned from international competition as well?

No, but Afghanistan should be suspended. Those players can achieve eligibility for another country.

Rashid, for instance, could probably obtain UAE eligibility pretty easily given I believe he's lived there for some time.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Simple fact is if Australia were in South Africa's position on the Super league table this series would not have been cancelled.

Before being concerned about what is happening in other countries CA need to start looking at what is happening in it's own backyard. Here we are on the 14th of January and the test season is over and there is no international cricket anywhere to be seen, in past years we had ODI's to look forward too into February.

BBL please, that series will die a quick death once the SA20 gathers legs and cricket in this country will be dead outside of the England and India series.

Yep, not having international cricket in Feb is definitely comparable to a terrorist group ruling a country.

Good point.

 

[theiaofseed]

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BBL please, that series will die a quick death once the SA20 gathers legs and cricket in this country will be dead outside of the England and India series.

Yes cricket si more important than basic rights.

 

[big_e]

No, but Afghanistan should be suspended. Those players can achieve eligibility for another country.

Rashid, for instance, could probably obtain UAE eligibility pretty easily given I believe he's lived there for some time.

Have to sit out for three years from your last match.

That said, the player eligibility rules do allow appeals on the grounds of exceptional circumstances, and I think if Afghanistan was banned, they'd have every right to ask the ICC to let them play for someone else immediately.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

CA using the Taliban as an excuse so they don't have to go travel to UAE to play a nothing series against Afghanistan

As if CA sincerely care about Afghan politics

 

[Mostyn]

CA using the Taliban as an excuse so they don't have to go travel to UAE to play a nothing series against Afghanistan

As if CA sincerely care about Afghan politics

Honestly, piss off.

It's good to see CA actually doing something decent.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Honestly, piss off.

It's good to see CA actually doing something decent.

Haha .... keep thinking it's anything else but CA not wanting to go play a minnow nation overseas in a nothing one day series.

I mean why stop there ..... if they were really seroius surely they would stop Afghan players playing in Australia?

All the while our Australian immigration detention regime is still a cruel, inconsistent mess ..... but hey we best not discuss that

 

[theiaofseed]

Haha .... keep thinking it's anything else but CA not wanting to go play a minnow nation overseas in a nothing one day series.

I mean why stop there ..... if they were really seroius surely they would stop Afghan players playing in Australia?

All the while our Australian immigration detention regime is still a cruel, inconsistent mess ..... but hey we best not discuss that

Because it has to be all or nothing right? People discuss that daily stop your whataboutisms

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Because it has to be all or nothing right? People discuss that daily stop your whataboutisms

Cricket Australia don't seem to talk about it

CA's stand is like flicking a grain of sand at the Afghan government ..... convenient excuse not to travel to play a series against a minnow

 

[Blue1980]

Haha .... keep thinking it's anything else but CA not wanting to go play a minnow nation overseas in a nothing one day series.

I mean why stop there ..... if they were really seroius surely they would stop Afghan players playing in Australia?

All the while our Australian immigration detention regime is still a cruel, inconsistent mess ..... but hey we best not discuss that

I mean we could say it’s CA having morals, but if India were doing the same thing what do we think would happen?

 

[thejester]

What does that even mean? If they are going to take a stand about human rights abuse in one country why aren’t they doing it in all of them?

But they're not taking a stand on vague 'human rights abuses', they're specifically taking a stand on the restrictions placed on women participating in education and the parts of the workforce. Your attempts to draw an equivalency between Pakistan and Afghanistan falter on this - whatever the many human rights issues in Pakistan (and there are many!), women can still attend university.

 

[Sammo360]

Pakistan not cancelling upcoming Afghanistan tour but with conditions

Pakistan not withdrawing from series against Afghanistan

PCB chairman doesn't want to mix politics and cricket; boards agree to play T20Is instead of ODIs

www.espncricinfo.com

The cynic in me thinks Cricket Australia wanted something similar but didn't get their way

 

[Crankyhawk]

Afghanistan is an easy target to present yourself as morally superior. It is pathetic, and if Rashid Khan boycotts the BBL he would be totally justified.

Afghanistan is a target that chooses to make itself a target by behaving like religious ****sticks.

 

[Crankyhawk]

This really pisses me off.

Why can't cricketers simply play cricket and the politicians can play politics? Just * off.

I'm guessing you would have been against the sports boycotts against South Africa then?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Meh, but it’s not, is it.

The other decision that could have been made was to play it, and not look even more like the most hypocritical pack of f***wits in world cricket

worrying about hypocrisy is overrated, and will just give you an ulcer.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Was Australia 'treating women as slaves' fifty years ago when they weren't allowed to open bank accounts without a husband at their side?

Some of you people need to get a grip.

There are different cultures and religions in the world.

If you can't be tolerant of them, keep your bigoted mouths shut.

nope, no need to show tolerance for shit like this.

 

[Crankyhawk]

You are an Islamophobe masquerading as SJW

Dont like the dark skinned savages and their rules and customs eh? Think the whites should go and show them how its done?

Sounds racist to me

On a topic like this **** yeah I'm happy to be racist/ cultural imperialist. So ****ing what

 

[Crankyhawk]

I have no idea but would be interested to know ow what kind of coverage if any the series would of got in Afghanistan?

If the answer is a fair bit and Cricket Australia really cared we would be filling the support staff roles with females. I know that has its own dangers but not playing them at all is not helping.

could have been a lot of direct danger for our staff though

 

[Crankyhawk]

I'm sick of this uneducated bullshit. Denying women an education and health care is not a ******* Islamic thing, it's a tailban thing.

would you have been ok with the thrust of the quote if it was "we aren't going to change anyone's government ffs"?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Genuine question, what were people’s opinion on the banning of Russian sportspeople from Wimbledon for example?

If forced to make a choice I was on the side of allow to play not representing a country; maybe the difference is for me the individual players in tennis are less country aligned than a cricket team (ie more individuals, because you play against your "countrymen" as well), but I can also understand the idea of banning Russian outright (Belorussian to a lesser extent though I suppose they are letting russians use their country as a staging ground for the invasion)

 

[Crankyhawk]

I'm a bit surprised this is your take, Phat.

From CA's page on Diversity and Inclusion:

Seeing as the ICC website is down, have a look at this:

ICC launches campaign to promote women’s cricket

“It will challenge perceptions, build heroes and create excitement as we head into the ICC Women’s Cricket World Cup 2021 in New Zealand,” an ICC media release said

www.thehindu.com

I was hoping to get it from the horse's mouth, but alas. This should be sufficient to demonstrate that a) this is completely consistent with Australia's stance on the women's game and inclusion principles at all levels of the organisation, and b) this should've been organised above Australia by the ICC, as the stance taken by the Taliban is contrary to their own principles and goals.

Secondly, you seem to be having a go at CA for this because they're limiting their stance on feminism solely to cricketing matters. It's a singularly weird flex to take issue with a cricketing body for making an ethics judgement related to cricket when it intersects with their espoused values.

I think it's a bit revealing the level of ideological purity others seem to require others to have to campaign on anything, let alone feminism. I also think that a fair bit of the complaints in this thread would be happening anyway, but I'm a bit surprised at you adding your voice to the chorus.

I think you have Phats take slightly off; he seems more protesting about the perceived hypocrisy when the Aust cricket board do not do anything similar regarding Pakistan's treatment of women; though there is a difference in degree of what Pakistan does and what Talibanastan does.

 

[Lia]

Afghanistan is a target that chooses to make itself a target by behaving like religious *sticks.

All of Afghanistan?

 

[kickazz]

worrying about hypocrisy is overrated, and will just give you an ulcer.

Good quote.

Honestly, who cares about hypocrisy? Every situation is different and rather than crying out "hypocrisy" perhaps digging deeper to understand reasons behind different decisions to apparently the same situation is required.

The answer will be: the situation is never the same.

 

[Crankyhawk]

All of Afghanistan?

Afghanistan the government and political structure which rules it. I thought that was obvious from the context (as in why they are a target, they have made themselves into one by choice)